Maker Equips Change Outs

With maker supposedly coming soon (stress supposedly), I thought a thread about what equips would be worth keeping and what ones would be better off sold and upgraded through the Maker skill would be usefull.

Basic layout: List the equips you are thinking about upgrading.

ex: Dark Wing Boots

DEX +14
Def (if you care)
Speed + 3
Jump + 15
Slots 0

After that, it should run like a normal "What to buy thread", where the equips are judged and advice is given on whether or not it would be worth it to upgrade using the Maker skill. So I guess ill start.

First up, my gloves

Blue Arcina
+2 Str
+5 Dex
+21 MP (not important)
Weapon ATT + 9
Def (not important)
Slots 0

Most likely will upgrade, adding both a high grade Dex and Str crystals, giving me 10 Str and 11 Dex, as well as 30 hp from an hp adding jewel. Scrolling would hopefully be 8~10 ATT.

next is shoes

Dark Wing Boots
DEX +14
Def (if you care)
Speed + 3
Jump + 15
Slots 0

This im really apprehensive about. If I do make a new shoe, id lose a large chunk of my jump, but the speed lose isnt any, as ill still have 39 without them, easily fixed with a low grade speed jewel. On the Dex side, i can get 10 dex clean, and then maybe if im lucky 13~14 Dex from scrolling, but the lvling of the weapon would help alot.

Thanks for the advice then.

With maker supposedly coming soon (stress supposedly), I thought a thread about what equips would be worth keeping and what ones would be better off sold and upgraded through the Maker skill would be usefull.

Basic layout: List the equips you are thinking about upgrading.

ex: Dark Wing Boots

DEX +14
Def (if you care)
Speed + 3
Jump + 15
Slots 0

After that, it should run like a normal "What to buy thread", where the equips are judged and advice is given on whether or not it would be worth it to upgrade using the Maker skill. So I guess ill start.

First up, my gloves

Blue Arcina
+2 Str
+5 Dex
+21 MP (not important)
Weapon ATT + 9
Def (not important)
Slots 0

Most likely will upgrade, adding both a high grade Dex and Str crystals, giving me 10 Str and 11 Dex, as well as 30 hp from an hp adding jewel. Scrolling would hopefully be 8~10 ATT.

next is shoes

Dark Wing Boots
DEX +14
Def (if you care)
Speed + 3
Jump + 15
Slots 0

This im really apprehensive about. If I do make a new shoe, id lose a large chunk of my jump, but the speed lose isnt any, as ill still have 39 without them, easily fixed with a low grade speed jewel. On the Dex side, i can get 10 dex clean, and then maybe if im lucky 13~14 Dex from scrolling, but the lvling of the weapon would help alot.

Thanks for the advice then.

[color="#cc8899"]If you're going to remake your shoes, go for the 120 ones if you can wear them. Same for the gloves. The extra stats from leveling could be beneficial. The boots are pretty good though, I wouldn't mess with them. You wouldn't see much benefit for the time/money you'd put in. Gloves can definitely be upgraded, with a bit of lucky scrolling.

My gloves -
Dark Emperor Gloves
9 att
4 STR
3 DEX
MP doesn't matter
wDEF doesn't matter

I plan on upgrading to the lv 120, with an Advanced Power and Advanced DEX crystal, and either an Advanced Topaz or Advanced Amethyst (HP or Speed). The goal is to keep remaking them until I end up with a 10 attack glove. If I don't manage this within 3 makings, I'll just buy a 12 attack common glove (if I don't have a better glove by that point, that is).

Boots -
Green Crescent Boots

Utterly craptastic, will definitely replace with ADV STR/DEX/Speed or HP lv 120 shoes. Will either Chaos (with found scrolls only) in the hopes of extra STR or scroll for Speed.

Top
Blue Neos -
18 STR
3 ACC
Bottom
Green Neos Pants
6 DEX
4 ACC
5 slots

Plan on upgrading to the 120 Overall with ADV STR/DEX/ACC (to account for slight loss from pants in case I want to reset some DEX)
Will scroll for STR with 60s/70s. This is probably going to give me the most grief, as every scroll will either be horridly expensive or likely to break it. However, and end-result of at least +30 STR between scrolling (+20 max), Makering (+11 base or so), and leveling (+6 more) with some nice DEX (like 9 or so) would be great. I don't need the acc or DEX from scrolled pants, hence leaving 5 slots open. Money from the top and bottom would be nice to fund other Maker items or scrolling as well.

Weapon
-Crimson Arcglaive
116 Att
Matt = No idea why it has it
5 speed
9 STR
1 wdef (that's right, I 30'd it)
Normal Speed

The main reason I want to make a Reverse Hellslayer is as a DPH (per hit) PA for Skeles. The Glaive would still be my bossing/Time Temple weapon, but it'd be nice to 3hit Skeles more consistently/sooner using a 130 or so PA. The plan is ADV STR/DEX/Diamond for maximum damage benefit. I plan on making 2 - one with a STIM, one without. Whichever turns out better will be scrolled using only 60s, the other will be 30'd once. Base att is 112, and with 5/7 60s landing on a 3 above (diamond) that's 125 attack 10 STR (123.5 att). Lucky leveling would get me a 129+, suitable for my purposes and damage range threads.



-Pics to be added later-

-Edit-
LOL didn't see that this was Bowman forum. Could be moved to general though, so that comments like mine aren't wasted [/COLOR]

WARNING.

You can't upgrade with jewels stuff already made. JUST new stuff created with maker. So, it means, you have to create your equips from scratch.

maker is just effectively like those forging npcs in ludi, but the stimulators are crystals and jewels, correct? if not let me know what exactly this skill does o.o;

Primary replacement is my shoes...

Current: Blue Crescent Boots
5 str
3 dex
4 acc (4 or 3, I forgot)

Replacing with Dragon Boots, 1 STR 1 ACC 1 Speed crystal. Scrolling for speed.


I've also put off purchasing dex/luk set for my Thief, I'll probably forge that with extra stats at some point.

This is perfect for scrolling shoes. No more buying scrolls or even trying with 30%.

^^ I take it we're giving up on ITCG, or are those kinds of quips hella expansive in other servers such as Scania or Bera...

My goal is to get upgrade my 14 dex shoes to a 6 or 7 atk FS.

As for Item maker upgrading I am hampered by my low Str Build. If I use a MoN I wear a 24str 2dex overall or I can switch to an egged Pendent and 28Dex 2 str overall. ATM 11 atk from MoN = largest benefit.

But my goal would be to make a 17 Str 20+ dex overall if at all possible. If I can start with 10 Str 6 Dex or something like that it would be awsome.

^^ I take it we're giving up on ITCG, or are those kinds of quips hella expansive in other servers such as Scania or Bera...

350m for a clean Facestomper on Bera, so about 400mil per attempt to get an atk shoe. And chaos scrolls only improve stats about 30-40% of the time. 15+ stats clean shoes are a better bet, though they cant match a 6-7 atk FS.

Maker is going to be insane for Weapons, Shoes and Armor to an extent. Other than mages, just about everyone can benefit greatly from using Maker'd equips of those types unless they're already using godly shet (and Low-luk Bishops will actually be on par with if not better than lukless assuming no Ele wands)

I don't think gloves will be a big deal. I have a 13 att SCG already, to make an upgrade from that with forged gloves would probably be more expensive than just buying a 14 att SCG. Hats are useless since just about everyone has a Zhelm.

My plans for upgrades:
89/3 Peacemaker -> 99+/7 Concerto
6 str 21 dex White Pioneer -> 9 str 26+ dex White Marquini
4 str 7 dex Blue Pageant or
4 str 6 dex 2 slot Blue Pageant (unfinished, will 30%) -> 6 str 12+ dex Blue Pageant

I'll mostly be using mid-grade stat crystals since I'm planning on doing a lot of scrolling and don't want to spend dozens of mils just getting a clean equip and breaking it. Unless I get horribly unlucky with scrolling I can afford all these huge upgrades already. I've been waiting so damn long, lol.

Hmmmm, it would probably be good to move this to General, or at least the main Training Center section, since more than just bowman will be using it.

Main upgrade that I already know I will be making with my Marauder are my shoes and my overall, and after i get a final figure for my dex with those (and if i ever hunt more 60%s for my helm), i can decide what lvl pirate glove i want to make, since as it stands i can use a lvl 100 glove as is, giving me 4 dex instead of the 2 dex my blue wg gives. Other equips are:

White Pioneer
Str +6
Dex + 20
so and so with the rest (ACC is there not checking atm)

Planning for 11 Str, 7 Dex clean, 25+ dex when scrolled.

Shoes are
Black Basile
Str + 1
Dex + 9
ACC + 5
Speed + 3
Jump + 10

For these, I am planning to stick with Basiles, since they add 3 Dex clean compared to others around that lvl that add only 1, drop a high grade Dex crystal to get 8 clean, and scroll it hopefully with 1 30% and 3 60%s, giving me a 14 dex shoe. Also planned on making them with a shoe stimulator ( 7 stims already, first result to have more than 8 Dex clean will be used).

Gonna stock up on red armises with low power/dex and 30% away. Red arzunas and red armises give three extra stats clean compared to the other level 100 overalls. Then make a high power/dex/topaz reverse rontano until I can land one 30%, then 60% the rest. I might also make a high diamond/dex/topaz reverse black beauty with only one 30% landed (or maybe none if time pieces are too expensive) if crossbow scrolls inflate too much.

i was dieing in the hopes that Red Arzunas were dropping from something, or would be a lil common, so far ive only seen 2, both in mts. But with the Reverse sets, i might as well wait longer. My overall is probably the only equip i have that isnt special in any way (not counting zhelm).

i am going for a sexy 40 stats overall, well i can dream.....

with maker , your dream looks brighter ^o^

Okay, so these are my equips I want to change out:

Gloves:
Dark Manute (level 60)
INT +3
LUK +1
MP, WDEF, MDEF (don't care)

I know I'm getting new gloves. I can't afford well-scrolled ones, so I'll get better results Maker'ing them than buying badly-scrolled ones now. Planning on using High or Medium Wisdom + Med LUK on another pair of Dark Manutes. If high LUKs end up cheap, I might make High LUK'd ones instead and hope my MoN has 6 LUK, so I can get rid of my 6 LUK (6 slot) shield.


Overall:
Dark Enigma (level 78)
INT +6
LUK +2
MP, WDEF, MDEF

Thought I'd at least throw a Med Wisdom on a new one until I can afford a scrolled overall. Maybe after selling all the extra ores...? I still couldn't afford to risk self-scrolling, not with overall INTs through the roof right now.


Shoes:
Red Lapiz Sandals (level 70)
INT +2
LUK +3
MATK +1

No-brainer for me. High Wisdom and med or high LUK'ing the new ones, maybe making one with stim and one without, depending on how many high Wisdoms I get. Probably sticking with the Lapiz set since the MATK clean has greater stim possibilities. Going for gold ones, which give more INT, since the LUK crystal will take care of my LUK needs.


I hope to be able to get rid of my LUK shield for an INT shield, and/or reset a few points of my LUK, while still wearing the 113/10 Phoenix Wand I just bought. Other equips are Dep Star (getting MoN free in the next week or two, hopefully), average clean Zhelm, 6/9 Maple earrings, and a 5/7 cape. Thought about upgrading the earrings or cape with Maker ore-hoarding money.

If Maker doesn't come out soon, I'm staring down not 2-hitting Skeles until 135 even if I pump Gen as much as I can (without being able to afford Gen30 or MW20), and not until 140 if I try not to get stuck with 20 Gen. Not a comfortable feeling. =/ 10-15 INT will help a LOT, though.


EDIT: Oh yeah, question. Should I dump a high Garnet (acc) on level 50 shoes for my page, or wait until 80 or so to make some boss DEX or STR or acc ones? I currently use 4 acc Red Snowshoes. I don't really need the acc, except to go to Windraiders early (before I can wear my Rohen), which, as I'm dexless and well-funded, would otherwise be a good option.

Equipment I can see changing out:

w/e STR, 20 DEX Brown Pollard.

Hoping to make a base 6 STR, 7 DEX, 5 Avoid White Pioneer. Then pass at the very least 2 30%s for DEX, and then 60% the rest of the way. In terms of total DEX all I hope for is 20 DEX at the very least.



As for shoes, Black Basile Boots seem like a great idea.

3 DEX + 5 DEX Crystal + 5 DEX Dark Crystal = 13 DEX clean. I can easily get 15 DEX off these babies, or push it to 20 DEX if feeling lucky. I do not wanna risk a stimulator.

Equipment I can see changing out:

w/e STR, 20 DEX Brown Pollard.

Hoping to make a base 6 STR, 7 DEX, 5 Avoid White Pioneer. Then pass at the very least 2 30%s for DEX, and then 60% the rest of the way. In terms of total DEX all I hope for is 20 DEX at the very least.



As for shoes, Black Basile Boots seem like a great idea.

3 DEX + 5 DEX Crystal + 5 DEX Dark Crystal = 13 DEX clean. I can easily get 15 DEX off these babies, or push it to 20 DEX if feeling lucky. I do not wanna risk a stimulator.

lawl, i wonder how common this setup will be after maker. So far theres like 4 people with the same look as mine pirate. It would be awesome as hell if i could have 100 dex before my overall, and make a nice red duke belly D: but i guess ill have to wait til im done scrolling everything <_<

I'm planning on swaping out my
Dark Wing Boots (DEX +17) for reverse shoes with 5str/5dex crystals, my 31 stat overall for a 5str/5dex'd Reverse overall (then scrolling for str instead of dex), in order to get enough str to use a reverse bow.

lawl, i wonder how common this setup will be after maker. So far theres like 4 people with the same look as mine pirate. It would be awesome as hell if i could have 100 dex before my overall, and make a nice red duke belly D: but i guess ill have to wait til im done scrolling everything <_<

Well I'm not exactly trying to emulate your look. It just so happens I want a White Pioneer as my end overall, at least for now (if I can get 110 DEX without my overall, HEEEELLO Canopus Suit.)

*I definitely see DEX shoes and scrolled overalls taking a huge hit in price, so it's best one does not buy any godly overall or shoe for now. Hold off and make one yourself instead.

Well I'm not exactly trying to emulate your look. It just so happens I want a White Pioneer as my end overall, at least for now (if I can get 110 DEX without my overall, HEEEELLO Canopus Suit.)

*I definitely see DEX shoes and scrolled overalls taking a huge hit in price, so it's best one does not buy any godly overall or shoe for now. Hold off and make one yourself instead.

Once i have confirmation of Maker coming out, im selling both my overall and shoes on my pirate for ~10 mil less than normal, just so i can get em sold before they drop by half the normal price. Tho, a 20 dex overall is still up there, so mine might not take that huge of a hit, but still not chancing it.