Please...Nexon...

I quit MapleStory because leveling became too easy

Anyway, just look forward to the new patch that came up in MSEA: It'll fix the leech issue.

Leveling it self is a bit too easy for classes that basically spam one button but it does take a pomegranate load of time.

I wonder if I can get away with the statement that Maple needs to fix how they treat quests. I mean most MMORPGs that I've played have used quests as the main way to lvl and only forcing you to grind in a few spots (of the lvls the mmo is currently 'supporting') while most mid lvled maplers are lucky if they even get 10% of their lvl's exp from quests.

I wonder if I can get away with the statement that Maple needs to fix how they treat quests. I mean most MMORPGs that I've played have used quests as the main way to lvl and only forcing you to grind in a few spots (of the lvls the mmo is currently 'supporting') while most mid lvled maplers are lucky if they even get 10% of their lvl's exp from quests.

More like 2% of their level's exp from quests, since mid level should be and is technically level 100.

Well, things have been changing slowly...with the recent EXP curve change (though they claim that it will only last throughout this event. >.>...I daresay that this curve shift was a test that Nexon wanted to do to see how many more people would play and come back [which is probably why they said it's only this month...but they might bring back later/keep]),[SIZE="4"] and the more often 2x events.[/SIZE] I just want Nexon to finally realize their flaw in design of this whole game and keep at these changes and make these change AND us players STAY.

Personal note: I personally would rather them make level 1-200 in a matter of a few months AND have classes varied and fun enough for me to want to make a character of each class to level 200. Then all that is needed would be new contents, classes, PQs, items, quests, and other perks to keep me playing. I'd easily want to stay to keep playing and buying NX even more and feeling less tiring/chore-like. It won't just feel that my NX is just bought for another 3 months for my mostly-AFK non-mage character that levels at 2%/hour.

More often 2x events? I don't know if you remember back to the anniversary last year, but they had 2x drop Tuesday, Thursday, 2x EXP Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and both on the weekends. They had significantly more 2x events last year. They always give 2x events during the anniversary.

I've been training my bandit for a while now because I don't feel like spending all my money on ulti-spam. When I get more, I'll go back to it, but it's nice to be making a few hundred thousand mesos after repotting now.

More often 2x events? I don't know if you remember back to the anniversary last year, but they had 2x drop Tuesday, Thursday, 2x EXP Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and both on the weekends. They had significantly more 2x events last year. They always give 2x events during the anniversary.

I've been training my bandit for a while now because I don't feel like spending all my money on ulti-spam. When I get more, I'll go back to it, but it's nice to be making a few hundred thousand mesos after repotting now.

I'm not talking about just this patch. But look at previous patches. We've been having 2x events pretty regularly recently, whereas before it was given pretty much on anniversaries only. And we don't have 2x drops 'cause it doesn't work anyway.

Anyway, just look forward to the new patch that came up in MSEA: It'll fix the leech issue.

Enlighten me please?

Make your game more balanced and enjoyable.

Mages shouldn't be able to train 3x-4x faster than non-mages. There shouldn't be need to leech. This game shouldn't be a chore to just sweep under the rug to get it over with. Make it more balanced; make it more fun. Bring back our hardworking honest community pre-4th job. People shouldn't be wanting to leech. People shouldn't be wanting to quit.

This is sad.

if you want AMs to have slower training, give us better bossing.

if you want AMs to have slower training, give us better bossing.

Not about nerfing archmages.

if you want AMs to have slower training, give us better bossing.

Clearly you read the entire thread and realized what a unique and pertinent opinion this was and how much the entire discussion would be vastly improved by this insight noone has ever had before.

I'm not talking about just this patch. But look at previous patches. We've been having 2x events pretty regularly recently, whereas before it was given pretty much on anniversaries only. And we don't have 2x drops 'cause it doesn't work anyway.



Enlighten me please?

I believe they changed the party exp, like KMS, so you gain less from leeching.

I'm more annoyed by boss leechers... 90% of the time I find anego, there's a powerguard mule and the typical leecher with the bathrobe/wand/yellow cape/(raccoon mask) combo.

I'm more annoyed by boss leechers... 90% of the time I find anego, there's a powerguard mule and the typical leecher with the bathrobe/wand/yellow cape/(raccoon mask) combo.

Agreed. I have to settle for Tengu - Haven't seen an Anego since I was 14x.

First things first. People did quit before Leafre/4th job and leeching. Is it really so bad to be able to give your friends a hand and help them level faster? I don't sell leech, but have nothing against people who do.

And as far as I've seen with that new party exp thing in MSEA it just means you have to participate in killing, which kind of isn't that hard if your a mobbing job. (Correct me if I'm wrong please xDD I probably am)

So hermits and bowman who can kill BF in late 3rd job fairly easily and get good exp from him. Whilst mages can stare at him and go 'OMFG RUNNN'.. and then get trampled, squished and lose 5-10% in late 3rd job.. Yes thats incredibly fair.

Theres also another thing I'd like to add. The community chooses who they allow to boss and how they use there skills, not Nexon.. Even if Nexon did create the skill damages its up to the community how they use it to there strengths. In this case many people disagree with the methods chosen e.g. Leech. but there apart of maple now so deal with them.

These threads get incredibly repetitious after a while..

and most of that probably made no sense yay

Enlighten me please?

http://www.southperry.net/forums/showpos...tcount=296

First things first. People did quit before Leafre/4th job and leeching. Is it really so bad to be able to give your friends a hand and help them level faster? I don't sell leech, but have nothing against people who do.

There's one thing to help someone level faster by partying with them and encouraging them to keep training. It's quite another for leeching to be 2-3x faster than anything else the player could do.

So hermits and bowman who can kill BF in late 3rd job fairly easily and get good exp from him. Whilst mages can stare at him and go 'OMFG RUNNN'.. and then get trampled, squished and lose 5-10% in late 3rd job.. Yes thats incredibly fair.

Theres also another thing I'd like to add. The community chooses who they allow to boss and how they use there skills, not Nexon.. Even if Nexon did create the skill damages its up to the community how they use it to there strengths. In this case many people disagree with the methods chosen e.g. Leech. but there apart of maple now so deal with them.

Bowmen can't kill BF easily in 3rd or even 4th job, he's too messed up. And last time I tried to kill a BF on my Hermit, a Mage KSd me and stole the toe with teleport. :|

http://www.southperry.net/forums/showpos...tcount=296

Okay I saw that thread before...but it doesn't kill off leechers entirely from what I understand, just PG boss leechers more specifically. I mean currently Bishops are selling leech at Harps, Gobies, etc. where the monster would be within 5 of the leecher's level anyway. :f6:

The current rule of leeching is the conjunctive (any of..."OR" logic) of the following:

1. You have to be within 5 levels of the monster to leech if you do not hit it.
2. You have to be within 5 levels of any character who does hit the monster to leech if you do not hit it.
3. If you can hit the monster, you can leech on its kill.

Adding accuracy to PG only serves to kill off #2, which is good. But I don't see the importance of that guy restating #1 since it's the system as it is...unless he meant that KMS killed off #3, which wouldn't really make practical sense then since that means level 135- may no longer get party exp from Zak, and 155- may no longer get party exp from HT. :f6:

In either case, killing off leech entirely may solve the leech and people being lazy problem, but it just means that those people are going to quit much earlier still than end-game, which still isn't good as far as community development goes (although I guess you can argue to your favor of what you want for our community), and I'm sure it's not good either in terms of an overall game-design's intentions.

And as far as I've seen with that new party exp thing in MSEA it just means you have to participate in killing, which kind of isn't that hard if your a mobbing job. (Correct me if I'm wrong please xDD I probably am)

The thing is, half the leechers sit on a rope and do something else for four hours. If people were to train along with the AM, I would have no problem. They would essentially be training, just faster. I only have a problem with it when they do nothing.

Geez. You guys like write novels on here.

But still. I think we can ALL agree that the Mage/Bishop class in general, is BROKEN, and that half the time leechers know almost nothing about the game, thus screwing the economy over a few times, due to them buying all the leech over and over again, hoping to understand the game better by leeching over and over again.

[SIZE="2"]Bring back our hardworking honest community pre-4th job.
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I don't know what level you were before 4th job, but I was able to sell leech to my friends at Goby, and leveled them within 1-2 hours. They paid me the mesos+pots I spent. Priests could sell leech at Ludi. The community was not hardworking and honest as you wish it were. Leafre/4th job ultimates just made the old forms of leeching obsolete. MapleStory, like anything else, is always changing.

Change is all a part of growing up.

Arch mages have no role in bossing, or even pqs. We deserve the exp?
As for leeching, that should go away.

So hermits and bowman who can kill BF in late 3rd job fairly easily and get good exp from him.

lolwut

Are you serious man? We can't even kill BF "fairly easily" in 4th job anymore. What the hell 3rd job can kill BF, let alone fairly easily? If you're gonna make a statement to show how mages suck at bossing compared to the other classes, at least use one that is true/makes sense. BF is largely controlled by the high level warriors now, who often sell it for leech.

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And yeah yeah, leech discussion. MS' grind is too long. Mages level too much faster compared to everyone else. Yada yada. Maybe so, but so what? Maplestory isn't going anywhere any time soon. I miss the days of actual training parties. I miss the days when bosses could be hunted without the KS/leech selling drama. I miss a lot of things. But MS has changed and its community along with it. Different people find different things fun. New things create new opportunities. Leeching makes it easy to level. Selling leech makes it easy to earn money. So people do them. Unless Nexon takes an active, open stance against either practice, they are not going to go anywhere.

My point in all this is just do what you find fun. Most of the time it's still very possible to have fun in MS, even with all this crap going on around us. It sucks when it gets in your way (like all the f'ags stealing/taking bosses just to sell the exp to others), but you just have to get over it. I miss BF and Anego, but there's still other bosses to enjoy. Just because mages and leechers level so fast doesn't mean anything. I level at my own pace, and I find it great fun still. MS shouldn't be about the ranks. There shouldn't be all this stupid elitism if people want to play MS like that either. Just...deal with it, goodness.

Blanket statements are stupid. Yes, even when they're used about leeching. Leeching is used by good players and complete retards alike. It can create idiots like in your screenshot or it can create high level "pro" players. So people need to drop the elitist attitude about leeching. If you don't wanna leech, that's great. I admire that. But don't think you're better than all leechers because of it. You're playing MS, f'ags. Get over it.

So I'll just end it by saying I do wish a lot about MS would change. However, I still think MS in a very fun game. I will be just fine if the exp curve never changes. If leeching never goes away. Etc etc. I think we should be dwelling on the REAL problems, like Nexon's stupidity/lack of caring/greed, hacking and scamming. Not the unbalanced leveling and class system of MS... If you can't find fun despite that, then you SHOULD quit.