[1.2.230] Black Magician rears his head

I dunno, it takes a flying Crane 1 minute of sheer flight time just to get to Mu Lung. What makes you think a Dolphin that's swimming and coming from farther away can get you to Mu Lung in an instant?



If the Dolphin was obviously magic, then I would have been fine. Heck, there's a portal from Nautilus to Omega Sector. Lalalalalala

Taxis also drive you across an island and someone can launch you from a cannon to another area in a half a second.

Taxis also drive you across an island and someone can launch you from a cannon to another area in a half a second.

Where does the cannon come from? o.O

Taxis secretly have return scrolls inside them pook: And that guy from Ariant has a magic carpet. Oyas!

Where does the cannon come from? o.O

Taxis secretly have return scrolls inside them pook: And that guy from Ariant has a magic carpet. Oyas!

I thought the guy in Ariant had a sort of cannon that launched you from Ariant to somewhere in victoria.

Anyway, picture of Maple travel times in a very confusing manner:

You can't leave out time differences. For all we know a minute in Maple is 10 hours of our time. This "instant transportation" with the dolphins and taxi's could be hours and hours of movement that they don't show us because it's not important.

You can't leave out time differences. For all we know a minute in Maple is 10 hours of our time. This "instant transportation" with the dolphins and taxi's could be hours and hours of movement that they don't show us because it's not important.

Boat rides = too long.

Boat rides = too long.

This.

Quest time specifics also suggest that MapleStory time is approximately scaled with real time. Whatnot with boat schedules, the NPCs also behave as if a day was a standard 24 something, such as JM From tha Streetz dumping "trash" into an abandoned swamp shack between 5 and 8 pm pst.

Wow, talk about switching of topics.

It's a game where you fight mushrooms, boats fly, and you come back to life after you die. Doesn't seem realistic to me... So why would traveling, and time be? :f6:

wow i really gtotta do something,i wanna clear some things out:
someone had put a picture of ergoth,it looks the same as black magician in the picture!
it leads us to two things:
1.ergoth might be a form of black magician in the present and black magician is found in elin forest expansion?
2.ergoth is the black magician clone/junior black magician and black magician will probably summon ergoth in battle.
ill edit and re upload a map of what i think will happen soon,and i think soon they will make a world map for the past,when they fully release past victoria,and they might release ossyria since it was connected in the past.
Ok a map that will discover few points:

TT-the place of time temple

1-area near mu lung and el nath,note that i think el nath will be connected to mu lung garden with this place,it probably be the black amgician dungeon and be a mountain that you can choose path upwards it or go straight to mu lung

2-since arans must be near victoria and get there right after advancing i think lienne will be over there NOT near el nath and a portal for high lvls like between leafre-ellinia will teleport higher levels to the ground of black amgician dungeon,that can also be a nice way to reach el nath.

ludus lake-i moved it because ludus lake is more close to aqua road and it allows new content to come near ariant,leafre,and el nath mts.
the maple world sign-moved it because it might allow more places to be around this area.
places north and south ariant marked-this areas will probably be expansions to ossyria to connect all places instead of using boats,like in victoria you can move to whenever you want so it shall be in ossyria i predict,also please notice the map can BE CHANGED and kms CAN make it SMALLER like NLC map was changed so more areas and more places will have open field in the world map!

small island near el nath-no clue,maybe small expansion to el nath mountains,or aqua road,maybe it will a field like aqua world whale and boat in water that you can acces if you dive up to them
connector aqua to el nath thats a good guess or just small map for el nath.

island near vic. island-only possible guess is amoria,but since amoria is gms exclusive im clue less,and it can also be NLC since nlc comes from kerning...
By the way,if we need something for maple as new areas and new special content i would really want kms to expand omega sector to new areas or add more stuff to it like a pq,expand florina,and make FUN PARK(or w/e its called the map in henesys)more useful and populated,and thats a dream that will never come true unless new special minigames that can be opened only there will be released :X

wow i really gtotta do something,i wanna clear some things out:
someone had put a picture of ergoth,it looks the same as black magician in the picture!
it leads us to two things:
1.ergoth might be a form of black magician in the present and black magician is found in elin forest expansion?
2.ergoth is the black magician clone/junior black magician and black magician will probably summon ergoth in battle.
ill edit and re upload a map of what i think will happen soon,and i think soon they will make a world map for the past,when they fully release past victoria,and they might release ossyria since it was connected in the past.

Or the designers just lack imaginaion.

Or the designers just lack imaginaion.

LOL that would really suck and i hope its not gonna happen!

This.

Quest time specifics also suggest that MapleStory time is approximately scaled with real time. Whatnot with boat schedules, the NPCs also behave as if a day was a standard 24 something, such as JM From tha Streetz dumping "trash" into an abandoned swamp shack between 5 and 8 pm pst.

Boat rides = too long? You do realise it used to take people MONTHS to travel around from area to area via boat, right?

And if anything all of what you just wrote off can be explained in the same was all other in-game times, in that they're just being displayed and condensed for the player. If an hour our time was a day their time and it said NEXT BOAT IS IN HALF A DAY PLEASE WAIT how many players would be grossly confused? JM's quest can be explained the same in that the garbage is there only on certain days for them, but appears as hours for us.

Not that difficult to comprehend time scales in such a manner!

Boat rides = too long? You do realise it used to take people MONTHS to travel around from area to area via boat, right?

And if anything all of what you just wrote off can be explained in the same was all other in-game times, in that they're just being displayed and condensed for the player. If an hour our time was a day their time and it said NEXT BOAT IS IN HALF A DAY PLEASE WAIT how many players would be grossly confused? JM's quest can be explained the same in that the garbage is there only on certain days for them, but appears as hours for us.

Not that difficult to comprehend time scales in such a manner!

Our "boats" take only a few hours, I can believe that theirs only takes a few minutes. I can believe that MS minutes = an hour, but days and months? What next, you'll suggest that geography is warped and distorted too? Because it takes a Night Lord 10 minutes at the very least (I doubt that lol) to climb the El Nathian Mountains to Zakum?

At any rate, you still haven't explained the Dolphin phenomenon, as there's nothing to suggest that the Dolphin can instantaneously travel greater distance than a Crane that takes one minute to travel a shorter distance. Absolutely nothing. Unless you want to make the argument that ocean water freezes time.

wow i really gtotta do something,i wanna clear some things out:
someone had put a picture of ergoth,it looks the same as black magician in the picture!
it leads us to two things:
1.ergoth might be a form of black magician in the present and black magician is found in elin forest expansion?
2.ergoth is the black magician clone/junior black magician and black magician will probably summon ergoth in battle.
ill edit and re upload a map of what i think will happen soon,and i think soon they will make a world map for the past,when they fully release past victoria,and they might release ossyria since it was connected in the past.
Ok a map that will discover few points:

Ergoth is a devil summoned by Sharen III to protect something or w/e. It's a product of misfortune that the Rubian crystal (the thing that grants immortality) brings.

Our "boats" take only a few hours, I can believe that theirs only takes a few minutes. I can believe that MS minutes = an hour, but days and months? What next, you'll suggest that geography is warped and distorted too? Because it takes a Night Lord 10 minutes at the very least (I doubt that lol) to climb the El Nathian Mountains to Zakum?

At any rate, you still haven't explained the Dolphin phenomenon, as there's nothing to suggest that the Dolphin can instantaneously travel greater distance than a Crane that takes one minute to travel a shorter distance. Absolutely nothing. Unless you want to make the argument that ocean water freezes time.

You're being kind of dumb! I said USED to take months. Do you think Columbus jumped on his boat and sat back in his beach chair and shouted HEY WAKE ME UP WHEN WE GET THERE to his crew? There's nothing to suggest that it doesn't take days in their time for the orbis boat to go back and forth. So if 1 minute = 1 day in maple time, then it takes 10 days for them to climb the El Nath mountains... makes sense to me!

You're stuck in this belief that what we see is all there is, instead of it being condensed for the players sake. The dolphin doesn't travel instantly, we just don't see the trip. The few seconds of black screen is still more than an hour long trip in their time (based on my made-up time comparison.) The same applies for the cab rides on victoria. Just because we end up there within a second doesn't mean that the cab didn't DRIVE, it just means we didn't SEE it drive.

Think of it like this... if you watch something in fast forward do you think you can see everything that's going on? No, you can't. So if we're watching their days in a matter of seconds or minutes, of course we're not going to see every detail. Maps might seem paradoxical to this timing but you'd have to believe that if this were a real world, the maps and areas would be a lot larger than what we actually see, therefore making the fact that you can zip across a map in a seconds make a lot more sense.

You're being kind of dumb! I said USED to take months. Do you think Columbus jumped on his boat and sat back in his beach chair and shouted HEY WAKE ME UP WHEN WE GET THERE to his crew? There's nothing to suggest that it doesn't take days in their time for the orbis boat to go back and forth. So if 1 minute = 1 day in maple time, then it takes 10 days for them to climb the El Nath mountains... makes sense to me!

You're stuck in this belief that what we see is all there is, instead of it being condensed for the players sake. The dolphin doesn't travel instantly, we just don't see the trip. The few seconds of black screen is still more than an hour long trip in their time (based on my made-up time comparison.) The same applies for the cab rides on victoria. Just because we end up there within a second doesn't mean that the cab didn't DRIVE, it just means we didn't SEE it drive.

Think of it like this... if you watch something in fast forward do you think you can see everything that's going on? No, you can't. So if we're watching their days in a matter of seconds or minutes, of course we're not going to see every detail. Maps might seem paradoxical to this timing but you'd have to believe that if this were a real world, the maps and areas would be a lot larger than what we actually see, therefore making the fact that you can zip across a map in a seconds make a lot more sense.

Or even better, it's like a montage. Things happen really fast in a short amount of time.

Guys, you're being too realistic with the times. It's just a game. Obviously there's some stuff that doesn't match with real life.

Guys, you're being too realistic with the times. It's just a game. Obviously there's some stuff that doesn't match with real life.

Yeah, pretty much that. It's just fun to speculate theories of how it would work if it was real.

You're being kind of dumb!

FJing up the mountain from El Nath = 10 minutes.

Flying over the mountains from Orbis to Mu Lung = 1 minute.

Swimming via Dolphin to Herb Town = 0 seconds.

You still haven't quite explained wth is going on between the dolphin and the other two. Just because we can say a minute is a month of time, doesn't mean that the Dolphin is faster than the Crane. How the fk is the Crane one whole minute slower than the Dolphin? o.O

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You still haven't quite explained wth is going on between the dolphin and the other two. Just because we can say a minute is a month of time, doesn't mean that the Dolphin is faster than the Crane. How the fk is the Crane one whole minute slower than the Dolphin? o.O

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Get what I'm having issues with now?

FJing up the mountain from El Nath = 10 minutes.

Flying over the mountains from Orbis to Mu Lung = 1 minute.

Swimming via Dolphin to Herb Town = 0 seconds.

You still haven't quite explained wth is going on between the dolphin and the other two. Just because we can say a minute is a month of time, doesn't mean that the Dolphin is faster than the Crane. How the fk is the Crane one whole minute slower than the Dolphin? o.O

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You still haven't quite explained wth is going on between the dolphin and the other two. Just because we can say a minute is a month of time, doesn't mean that the Dolphin is faster than the Crane. How the fk is the Crane one whole minute slower than the Dolphin? o.O

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Get what I'm having issues with now?

I am pretty sure dolphins are faster than cranes irl. Plus the crane would have to fly over the el nath mountain, high up into the atmosphere in the cold WHILE carrying you. The dolphin just has to swim really fast on a path that it is very used to with you sitting on it's back (presumably)

*goes to look up flight of crane vs swimming of dolphin speeds, taking into account air resistance vs. water resistance and other such barriers.*

Obviously it's impossible to say why the crane takes longer but it is realistic to assume that taking things like weight and weather into consideration (something dolphins don't have to deal with) that no matter what the dolphin going to have an easier time, therefore making his trip faster. All he has to deal with is a little drag from the character.

EDIT: OH I KNOW WHY!

THE CRANE HAS TO AVOID CRIMSON BALROG!

EDIT: OH I KNOW WHY!

THE CRANE HAS TO AVOID CRIMSON BALROG!

That's impossible, I've been killing those feggots for a while and they almost went extinct at one point

But now you're thinking xD

"Over-thinking, over-analysing separates my body from my mind"
Sorry, I just wanted to use that somewhere. lol

You guys are over-thinking and over-analysing.