J.f.k.

In Humain Sciences class today, we were discussing our position about that president's death (we had a whole chapter about this case a couple months ago). I say it stinks conspiracy at its highest level. I'm pretty convinced that the CIA has something to do with this. The proof are pretty obvious too. I doubt we'll ever get an answer about WHO exactly did it, though.

Do you think it was just an ordinary murder or a conspiracy against that president that was an obstacle to the American government?

Discuss.

My girlfriend is Irish, so it's not like I hate Irish people, but JFK... people don't have the full story.

JFK cheated on his wife with a lot of women, including Marylin Monroe and a Russian spy. A member of his cabinet did an interview with the history channel, saying he used his wife and kids, (and the whole wholesome image,) but despite the "gentleman's agreement" that existed between the presidency and the media back then, this cabinet member was sure that had JFK not gotten assassinated, it would have gotten out and he would have had to resign. His philandering was THAT bad.

Instead he gets killed and is remembered as a martyr and a hero.

For example, we were taught to regard political leaders as saints—especially the recently martyred Kennedy and King. It was astonishing to learn later that they'd both been serial womanizers, and that Kennedy was a speed freak to boot. (By the time King's plagiarism emerged, I'd lost the ability to be surprised by the misdeeds of famous people.)

Most likely this. Though, I usually develop some scepticism towards conspiracy.

My girlfriend is Irish, so it's not like I hate Irish people, but JFK... people don't have the full story.

JFK cheated on his wife with a lot of women, including Marylin Monroe

I question this one personally every since I heard

"A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was in Marilyn Monroe."

I did some research on that line and if he did cheated, then it certainly wasn't within a week since Marilyn Monroe died in 1962 while JFK was assassinated in 1963, unless JFK was into necrophilia. Though that line may not be true, I can't say if he did cheat while she was alive or not. Also, there are no places in Maryland called Monroe except for Monroe Gardens, which didn't exist in 1865 lol.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notor...index.html
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&clien...th&spell=1

I question this one personally every since I heard

"A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was in Marilyn Monroe."

I did some research on that line and if he did cheated, then it certainly wasn't within a week since Marilyn Monroe died in 1962 while JFK was assassinated in 1963, unless JFK was into necrophilia. Though that line may not be true, I can't say if he did cheat while she was alive or not. Also, there are no places in Maryland called Monroe except for Monroe Gardens, which didn't exist in 1865 lol.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notor...index.html
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&clien...th&spell=1

Philandering is a lifelong addiction. The Kennedy family was powerful even before he got into office, (that's why he got into office after all,) and the whole "Camelot" image was probably there before he got into office too. If he slept with Marylin Monroe before he became president, is that any less relevant or despicable?

The guy the History Channel interviewed was one of Kennedy's cabinet members. History Channel is an entertainment entity, but even so, I can't imagine a member of Kennedy's cabinet would go public with this huge of a lie. Libel and slander are very costly things if you are talking about public figures. The Kennedy family could go after the guy and sue him into bankruptcy, along with everyone else saying these things. To the best of my knowledge there isn't any real contest to Kennedy's philandering. People worshiping him simply consider it irrelevant, but I've yet to meet somebody that seriously argued it was untrue.

personally I believe that I was not around to witness anything, thus not giving me the right to say anything.

I was around for Clinton, Bush Jr., and Obama (not so much clinton tho).

personally I believe that I was not around to witness anything, thus not giving me the right to say anything.

I was around for Clinton, Bush Jr., and Obama (not so much clinton tho).

So, other people that witnessed the event are worthless, literature written about events is also worthless? You're not going to learn much about the world around you thinking like that.

John F. Kennedy cheated? o_o We haven't really discussed about that in class much. Only that there was a rumor saying he was seeing Marilyn Monroe.

We mainly talked about how his autopsy was messed up, where no one knew what to do or who was in charge of the autopsy. They even opened his throat to supposely "help him breath", but archieves said he was declared DEAD when he entered the hospital. VERY weird right? Also, the pictures of the autopsy were awfully taken. The angles of the pictures taken just show nothing particular, medically speaking. It was as if the main goal was to hide as much as possible, but to show enough for people to know what the picture is about.

Then, we focused on the famous video of a man, whose name I forgot, who shot the entire moment where Kennedy was shot. From expertises(sp?), it was clear that he got shot at three times: One on his back, one that nearly missed his head and the fatal blow to his head. All those shots were, according to the government's information, from one and only one man, Lee Harvey Oswald who was on the 6th (I seriously need my notes. I don't remember the numbers or names ) of a Texas School Book Depository. That man was claimed to have used an horrible and old rifle gun from WWII. To be honest, if you seriously wanted to kill someone like the president AND shoot from a very far distance, you should use the best gun around, right? Also, it was proven that Lee Harvey Oswald wasn't an elite at shooting in the army.

There are way deeper information about the shots, but I don't want to mislead anyone without my notes and deform any parts. I'll get my notes next Monday and write everything I know in the first post. D:

personally I believe that I was not around to witness anything, thus not giving me the right to say anything.

I was around for Clinton, Bush Jr., and Obama (not so much clinton tho).

Not being around doesn't mean you can't inform yourself and know what happened. That's why history classes exist.

I think that's a very egoist opinion you have there. No offense meant.

History class...ouch. I was in public school, in Canada, when Kennedy was shot. We were sent home at noon, and given the rest of the day off. I can't think of anything/anyone who could create the same impact today, as his death did then. It was a different world, and respect for leaders was something that was ingrained into us.

I vaguely remember about the throat incision. Even though he was dead at the scene, because he was the President of the USA, they did things as if he was alive, as if there was some small chance of saving him. I think also, they had to be ready to make Johnson? president as soon as Kennedy was declared dead? Sorry, it was a long time ago, and the memory is vague.

Even at the time of his death, there was much conjecture as to whether their was a conspiracy or not. Not only was he shot, but the assassin was also killed, all within a very short period of time. The home movies, etc, were all that was on the television. I can't begin to tell you how many times I watched the "grassy knoll" clip.

I can't help thinking that if I, a school child, felt they were trying to hide things, then it must have been pretty obvious at the time. The things we were seeing, and the things they were saying, never quite added up. I have read much about the assassination since. I have learned that the most famous words he ever said, and which were, and still are, commonly accredited to him, were stolen from another author. "Ask not what your country can do for you, Ask what you can do for your country." These words were written by Kahlil Gibran, in a book called the Prophit. And yet, Kennedy is given credit for them on momentos of the time.

Personaly, I do believe there was a conspiracy. I think JFK had too much influence, too much power, and that certain people were threatened by this.
Kennedy had a charm that had people putting him on a pedestal. He was young, good looking, beautiful family and out to fix the world. When he was shot, the whole world mourned.

I wouldn't say he was out to fix the world. While he was killed early into his presidency, his days as a president didn't accomplish much. It was Johnson who signed most of the important acts that Kennedy pledged himself to.

As for being beneficial to the world, he caused Bay of Pigs. That is, he tried to assassinate Castro, who then went to the Russians and had their nukes brought to his soil, near the very shores of America. Kennedy "got tough," and Kruschev relented. War was averted

I was born in the Soviet Union, and I can tell you that relying on the sanity of Soviet communist leaders is MADNESS. The Soviet Union was a brutal, genocidal regime where the secret police dragged people to exile or death in the middle of the night and where only the most evil of men held power. Kennedy gambled and won; had he not won, the world would have been nuked. In my eyes, he was a useless jackass that knew how to give pretty speeches, but had none of the experience required for his position. Which is precisely the reason I am deathly afraid now: Obama has the same charisma and the same flaws.

Oswald shot Kennedy. That's right. He did it and he did alone. With a magic bullet.

Lee Harvey Oswald, who was then killed, while in police custody, by Jack Ruby.


Lincoln and Kennedy Parallels

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.

John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.

John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

The names Lincoln and Kennedy each contain seven letters.

Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.

Both their wives lost their children while living in the White House.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.

Both were shot in the head.

Both were shot in the presence of their wives.

The Secretary of each President warned them not to go to the theater and to Dallas, respectively.

Lincoln's Secretary was named Kennedy

Kennedy's Secretary was named Lincoln.

Both were assassinated by Southerners.

Both were succeeded by Southerners.

Both successors were named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.

Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.

Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.

Both names comprise fifteen letters.

Booth ran from the theater and was captured in a warehouse.

Oswald ran from the warehouse and was captured in a theater.

To cap it all off, Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

Oswald shot Kennedy. That's right. He did it and he did alone. With a magic bullet.

The mafia's magic bullet.

Lee Harvey Oswald, who was then killed, while in police custody, by Jack Ruby.


Lincoln and Kennedy Parallels

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.

John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.

John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

The names Lincoln and Kennedy each contain seven letters.

Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.

Both their wives lost their children while living in the White House.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.

Both were shot in the head.

Both were shot in the presence of their wives.

The Secretary of each President warned them not to go to the theater and to Dallas, respectively.

Lincoln's Secretary was named Kennedy

Kennedy's Secretary was named Lincoln.

Both were assassinated by Southerners.

Both were succeeded by Southerners.

Both successors were named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.

Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.

Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.

Both names comprise fifteen letters.

Booth ran from the theater and was captured in a warehouse.

Oswald ran from the warehouse and was captured in a theater.

To cap it all off, Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

Sorry if this is bumping but, dude wtp O_o
I'm just lurking around SP, stumble upon this post and was on a trip note... This has and will always make my day <3

JFK= Just fucking kidding! LOL