Pot consumption.

And no, still, I am not going to New Leaf City on all of my other characters. It's because of Haunted Mansion which should have been only for the Halloween event. GG Nexon.

Now I'm even more lost...

Warriors get high HP and are able to mob close range. Its one of our perks. Because of the high HP, pots cost a lot. Its one of the costs.

My guess is that they didn't think Crusaders or DKs would ever become hybrids. There was never a gain out of them except you can show off with both types of weapons. :X


*unrelated note: Are birks really good training for you? ~30% would be epic for me...:o*

So you decided to skip PG and now you're crying about pot usage, and while you're crying about it, you refuse to go to some place for pots that cost less but heals more, for some odd reason.

The pineapple?

Yes, because Showa Town has Ciders (Which gives 20 Weapon Attack, and reduces 5 accuracy). Bad thing about them is that they can't stack, so I had to get used to it.

And I believe there is another reason I should have told you earlier: People can't always realize that I know what to do. They just tell me to buff them, which really annoys and angers me. Even if I don't have it, they still beg/tell me to do it. What's wrong? Is asking politely like "May I please have <insert buff here>?" too long to type? Kids these days.

If I would have picked Power Guard, I would have sacrificed the attacking speed. So it is best for me to wait until 3 of my 3rd Job skills (Combo Attack, Coma, and Panic) are maxed. I know it's pointless, but it is necessary after you max out the skills you want.

And no, still, I am not going to New Leaf City on all of my other characters. It's because of Haunted Mansion which should have been only for the Halloween event. GG Nexon.

The stupidity... it is un-fucking-believable.

So you decided to skip PG and now you're crying about pot usage, and while you're crying about it, you refuse to go to some place for pots that cost less but heals more, for some odd reason.

The pineapple?

I am not crying about everything. >_>

The stupidity... it is un-pineappleing-believable.

I'm very sorry to be very rude to you, but the comment you posted was hypocritical and insulting. It's because I cannot go to a place I do not like, and I do not max a Party Skill doesn't mean I'm stupid. Sure, I could be stubborn when it comes to stuff I don't want to/should not do, but still.

*Slightly angry sigh* You know what, I'm not gonna argue anymore. I feel that this topic doesn't deserve to be posted as it was necroposted.

I get it. Hes boycotting NLC and there is nothing wrong with that.

Anyways your pot costs maybe high but thats not a reason why you cant train alone. Maybe if you learned how to distance yourself from monsters just enough so you dont get hit by physical attacks, you can reduce the overall damage done to you. Also, max jump can help you jump over monsters when you are assaulted by mobs on both sides. Also take advantage of ladders and ledges to help dodge damage.

and I do not max a Party Skill

Power Guard

uh...

I get it. Hes boycotting NLC and there is nothing wrong with that.

Why would you though? One person not going to NLC (and making life a lot harder on himself too) and not buying those potions isn't gonna change anything.

I do not see the rationality behind not going into a town which is a major area of the game and which has features which are greatly beneficial to you.

*Continues to necropost*

You realize the phantom forest (next door to NLC), has ciders in the raven ninja camp?

I still dont fully understand this whole topic, but boycotting a town which is an integral part of the future of this game is just ridiculous. Like me never going to Aqua because i have a fear of water.

Unless you started out Axe and went Sword hybrid I don't see what Showa has to do with it.


My WK was using similar amounts of pots (2000+ ice cream pop per level) at 8x back in the day and I had Powerguard. It's just the way 8x warriors are.

DK saved a ton by going to Ginseng, I think it dropped to about 1200 a level but only because of HB (1 Ginseng is nearly 4000 hp on it) the same hp cost still applies, it's just cheaper to pay for.

I went from using an absurd amount of ice cream pops to about 1/3 as many Honsters on an 8x PADK when NLC came out. As I've leveled the pot efficiency has only increased (switched to Ginsengs for Zerking). %-based potions are highly efficient for high level warriors - the more HP you have, the more they help, with a honster healing 18,000 HP on a max HP character.

This topic makes me want to slam my head into my desk repeatedly.

felt like adding a few more reasons in red:

Powerguard is gonna save you money and headaches. without powerguard you'll have a hard time at anego/bigfoot/horntail etc MP Recovery is gonna save you money and headaches. [COLOR="red"]at some levels you wont need to even buy mp pots (NOT EVEN IN NLC ) aswell as the fact that mp recovery saved my life a lot at horntail where normal characters cant use heroes will after 1/1, but mp recovery recovers 30mp per 8 seconds i believe and heroes will requires 30mp.. that means at most you'll have to go 7seconds without heroes will and that will in 90% of the cases be short enough to survive since you wont instantly walk into his tail and at least get 1hit from his legs first.. unless you didnt max powerguard ofcourse.
oh and mp recovery is great for auto mp pot lagg, if you're at 0 mp your automp wont always trigger and with mp recovery it wont take long till you get 30mp and then automp will trigger.[/COLOR]
Shout has its uses.
for lower level mobs and for mob control this is a great skill indeed
Rage will 'probably' be increased to 12atk at some point in the future. You will never use Axe with Brandish if you're already able to use Sword with Brandish. Panic and Coma still have marginal use in 4th job.

and please if anybody ever even considers making a hybrid sader..
ppl tend to forget that being a hybrid dk has his purpose, and hybrid saders are just a bad copy of that.

This topic makes me want to slam my head into my desk repeatedly.

You're not the only one. Hopefully in time the OP will finally suck it up and buy the Honsters.

You guys are arguing a lot about nothing xD Even if we don't understand his logic, he's doing what he wants to do. As this is just a game, there's no good reason to critisize someone for doing things differently, as long as it doesn't ruin the game for other players. I think we can all agree that people screw up their own characters all the time, and it's not a big issue. But when it comes to something like hackers, who screw up the game for others in a variety of ways, it does become a big deal. So, why then are we slamming our faces into our desks for something so trivial?

Logically speaking, in 4th job, rage, FA, Panic, and Coma are useless. I've only use Panic and Coma to see big numbers; FA to play with my nub axe in nub gear. Rage is arguably marginal in usefulness, before they changed it to 12 attack, I used to it train. After they changed it to 12 attack, I still just use it to train. I've already made it a habit to use rage for only training and attack pots for bossing, this hasn't changed. Arguably, I could use attack pots to train as well or *gasp* Just not train! Afterall, how many of us reach level 160? Not that many right? Of those that do reach 160+ like myself, how many want to keep training? Probably a whole 10 warriors per server.

Even if we ignore the money saving effects of PG though, PG has other uses as well. Instead of being knocked back normally by a touch attack, warriors stay fairly close to where they were hit, sort of a remedial stance. Arguably this makes even low level PG useful, in certain cases. However, it is NOT needed for BF/Anego/Horntail. What you need for said bosses is HP washing and/or HB, PG can help but it's more of a support. Whenever I solo BF now, I neglect using PG so that I don't spend as much time buffing, and more time attacking. This actually cut a few minutes out of my BF solo's. And Anego? Anego's touch damage is only 5k? 8k? Nothing, compared to her 18k+ peach slap. Horntail, again arguable. With PG and no HB, I could still die in 1 touch of many of his body parts; which I could survive with HB and no PG. Of course, if you're playing seduce, every bit of increased survivability is useful.

a BIG sorry for the wall of text. I'm bored right now waiting for a friend so I can go home, and when I'm bored I type a lot xD

Edit: About the hybrid thing... I actually plan on going hybrid, and arguably I will be a true hybrid hero, for awhile. . . The thing is, I have one of the best axes in GMS, but no sword that would compare to it. Even if I had the skills to use both, my axe would out damage any sword I'd have available. Thus, sword mastery/booster would be for farming relatively low level monsters (Using a red whip for speed and Fast(4) attack speed). And the whole "Let's be a 1h BW/Axe user!" isn't always a cry for individualism. For me, it was specifically for an increase in damage and the use of Guardian. Guardian has easily saved my life dozens of times already, in almost every possible case. (In training, zakum, horntail, bigfoot, etc.)

You guys are arguing a lot about nothing xD Even if we don't understand his logic, he's doing what he wants to do. As this is just a game, there's no good reason to critisize someone for doing things differently,

I think the main problem that a lot of people viewing the thread have with the OP is that he is complaining about how expensive it is for pots -- yet is choosing to ignore all the advantages given him in order to lessen these costs

he didnt make a thread about how awesome his pg-less build is and everyone is criticizing him for it -- he made a thread about how expensive pots are and is refusing to help himself lower the cost

no pomegranate its gonna be expensive