Karma Scissors, zHelms, FM?

Question for people playing a version that already has Karma Scissors (assuming there is one?) :
When you use Karma Scissors on an item, say a zHelm, does the item become a regular tradeable one until it comes into possession of another character? (Meaning: you can put it in storage, or in a store)
Or can it only be traded with another character?

Question for people playing a version that already has Karma Scissors (assuming there is one?) :
When you use Karma Scissors on an item, say a zHelm, does the item become a regular tradeable one until it comes into possession of another character? (Meaning: you can put it in storage, or in a store)
Or can it only be traded with another character?

When it contacts another player, meaning storage works. It removes the tradability completly untill it recontacts another player.

I just want to know if you can Karma scissors them again after you buy an item.

If so then reselling zhelms could be fun, if not then its time to farm zakum!

I assume when it says "Karma Scissors can only be used once." or whatever, it means, with that pair of scissors - since... you know, it's a one time use only. I seriously doubt you could only use the scissors one time for the rest of that item's life.

Edit : I'd like to thank you, Maple Jesus, for making these items storage-able. That makes my life so much easier.

I just want to know if you can Karma scissors them again after you buy an item.

If so then reselling zhelms could be fun, if not then its time to farm zakum!

yes, you can use the scissors again on the same item after trading it. the scissors make untradeable items available for one trade, then they go back to their old status (untradeable, able to use scissors).

and what erich said is true.

So, you are able to go do the pq on a mule on the same account, and then get the item to your main via storage?

If so, awesome.

Someone want to test to see if Karmar Scissors allow an item to go into MTS? >_> (when it comes out)

Doesn't hurt to verify that it works xD

What if you lose a Z-Helm, hmm?

How much would these Scissors cost one who's interesting in selling his zHelmet, anyway?

How much would these Scissors cost one who's interesting in selling his zHelmet, anyway?

I'm hoping it's not going to cost too much. I'm planning to get 2 of those to transfer my 15/14/15/15 to my Dark Knight and my 15/16/15/17 to my Outlaw.

Hmmm, my 35int Zhelm is looking pretty dam good right now =P

So, you are able to go do the pq on a mule on the same account, and then get the item to your main via storage?

If so, awesome.

like for the ludibrium PQ glasses? if so, yes you can put those through storage with karma scissors.

How much would these Scissors cost one who's interesting in selling his zHelmet, anyway?

they cost 2,700 NX on kMS. not sure how prices translate to gMS, but here's some basic kMS cash item prices that might help with the conversion:

transparent hat: 1500
transparent gloves: 1000
seal pillow weapon: 4600
ap reset: 2700
super megaphone: 990
normal shop permit: 900

i would guess around 5k for the scissors.

I have quite a few zhelms to sell. Now I can scroll some with INT or DEX and sell them off

Someone want to test to see if Karmar Scissors allow an item to go into MTS? >_> (when it comes out)

Doesn't hurt to verify that it works xD

Items that are untradeable are blocked from the MTS. Karma Scissors wouldn't remove an item block. It's like trying to MTS a Claw.

Are they though? I thought they had to flag that an item is un-MTSable. Would a zhelm have this flag?

Are they though? I thought they had to flag that an item is un-MTSable. Would a zhelm have this flag?

Yes.

When it contacts another player, meaning storage works. It removes the tradability completly untill it recontacts another player.

Just to make sure about the bolded part:

If you put your karma'd item in your shop, and then the shop expires/closes and it returns to your inventory, does it become untradeable again? Or does the system remember you're the original owner and not turn that flag on again?

Is there a difference, in this regard, between regular shop permits (that work off your own inventory) and hired merchants (that have a separate inventory)?

Does Karma Scissors work for all untradeable equips? If not items like HT Necks, Naricain Marks and Scarlion Helms are gonna be sold as well

And can they be put in a shop after they're scissor'ed?

Just to make sure about the bolded part:

If you put your karma'd item in your shop, and then the shop expires/closes and it returns to your inventory, does it become untradeable again? Or does the system remember you're the original owner and not turn that flag on again?

Is there a difference, in this regard, between regular shop permits (that work off your own inventory) and hired merchants (that have a separate inventory)?

It remembers you're the original owner. The zhelm stays tradeable until another player buys it from you. If the other player wants to trade it then as well he gotta get Karma Scissors then again.

@bio9205: Only untradeable items who're flagged as scissorable can be used with Karma scissors. And yes putting em in store after you used the scissor is one of the main reasons why people buy karma scissors.

AP reset price = Karma Scissors price in KMS. So I guess they'll be 3.1k here in GMS?