Even if they did sell their Mentor accounts, they would have the risk of getting their normal accounts banned if the person they sold the Mentor account to abuses their privileges.
ItzTaylor Wrote:Even if they did sell their Mentor accounts, they would have the risk of getting their normal accounts banned if the person they sold the Mentor account to abuses their privileges.
Selling normal accounts is already forbbiden, so selling a mentor account should be even more. No need to wait for the buyer to abuse it. They will surely ban both (main and mentor) before that happens
byakugan Wrote:Selling normal accounts is already forbbiden, so selling a mentor account should be even more. No need to wait for the buyer to abuse it. They will surely ban both (main and mentor) before that happens
Extra long ban to the original Mentor too. How Nexon will catch wind of what you describe is a little bit of a mystery, unless they specifically ask that you only sign on under one IP. But regardless, Mentor character abusing powers = ban anyways xD
Read the entire thing, guys. These "Mentors" are like elder players and are not related to the GM-assistant Guides. (They say at the top of the Guides post that they changed it from Mentors.)
I can't say I blame you for being shocked, though. I was the first time I read it.
Also, to those thinking of conspiring, trading Guide accounts, etc.: Remember that when you get caught they will ban your main account as well as booting you from the program. Do you think they don't read SouthPerry? Good luck with that....
Yay for the highest levels of the most popular classes? And yay for them sounding like little children? Oh yes, I want to trust them to be unbiased at any teenage year.
And maybe it's just me, but I have Never, and I mean Never, had a high level help me or be nice. It's usually something along the lines of "you're too noob to know because you're noob. gtfo," etc.
rassilon Wrote:Read the entire thing, guys. These "Mentors" are like elder players and are not related to the GM-assistant Guides. (They say at the top of the Guides post that they changed it from Mentors.)
I can't say I blame you for being shocked, though. I was the first time I read it.
Also, to those thinking of conspiring, trading Guide accounts, etc.: Remember that when you get caught they will ban your main account as well as booting you from the program. Do you think they don't read SouthPerry? Good luck with that....
They can't fairly associate the actions of someone on a forum with those of a character in-game, as there is no way to 100% prove a connection.
2009-04-22, 12:51 AM (This post was last modified: 2009-04-22, 12:54 AM by ItzTaylor.)
byakugan Wrote:Selling normal accounts is already forbbiden, so selling a mentor account should be even more. No need to wait for the buyer to abuse it. They will surely ban both (main and mentor) before that happens
No shizzy? I used the abuse example because I know Nexon can't use their psychic powers to know that the person playing the account isn't really the person who owns it. You make it seem like they are capable of using these psychic abilities though.
rassilon Wrote:Read the entire thing, guys. These "Mentors" are like elder players and are not related to the GM-assistant Guides. (They say at the top of the Guides post that they changed it from Mentors.)
I can't say I blame you for being shocked, though. I was the first time I read it.
Also, to those thinking of conspiring, trading Guide accounts, etc.: Remember that when you get caught they will ban your main account as well as booting you from the program. Do you think they don't read SouthPerry? Good luck with that....
And no one said they would sell their accounts. We basically brought up the fact, just to give you a taste of what noobs from Basil Market will be doing. I don't think people here are that stupid.
Go read through the thread again, cause I don't think you even did. Thanks.
If this turns out to be a much larger group of people and they don't announce every single person AND they don't have an expectation on work hours (hell they aren't paying), I might be willing to apply and throw in an hour or two here and there helping them out. I've done the GM thing before though, not that great; but then it wasn't on a game I had really "played" before nor was it an RPG.
Still, if I feel like it, I'd be willing to help here and there.
Off topic:
To those who participate in that Stalker SS thread:
Behold, your trump card.
Quote:Those accounts have very minimal abilities and no player will be allowed to volunteer on same sever(s) they play on to prevent abuse or biased actions.
I understand why they are doing that since you would get some pricks that would try and ban people for petty disputes they had. Call me selfish if you want but I would rather clean up the server I am playing on than cleaning up some other server I don't even use.
Quote:Should we ever find a Guide abusing any privileges, s/he will be immediately removed from the program and their play accounts suspended.
While I trust myself not to abuse the 'powers' that would be given I don't trust Nexon to not mistakenly think I am abusing them and ban my account. We all know how good Nexon are at banning innocent people. So no thanks I think Ill skip out on this and let others be guinea pigs. I dont fancy having my account banned.
Quote:be in our service area.
I guess I couldn't sign up anyway. But Im only technically not allowed to play Global.
MasPan Wrote:Ugh, a bunch of lv 200s mostly. So the thought here is that level = better at finding hackers? And 5 people isn't really going to change anything - I'm hoping like hell there will be more.
3 = a bunch? just 75% of all of them. The other's 185, lol.
Zpyke Wrote:Yay for the highest levels of the most popular classes? And yay for them sounding like little children? Oh yes, I want to trust them to be unbiased at any teenage year.
And maybe it's just me, but I have Never, and I mean Never, had a high level help me or be nice. It's usually something along the lines of "you're too noob to know because you're noob. gtfo," etc.
I can see this falling through real fast.
Then you're in the wrong server, my friend or know the wrong people.
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2009-04-22, 02:48 PM (This post was last modified: 2009-04-22, 02:50 PM by CrazyNomad.)
hime just posted a new quote from gm tiara
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-hime- Wrote:GM Tiara who is in charge of the program has been keeping her eye on this thread and she asked me to post her responses to some of your questions.
-Hime-
Hello Maplers!
I have been watching this thread grow and I want to take some time to address some of your concerns.
For everyone who gave name suggestions… THANK YOU!! There are some really good ones in there (I like Pie)! One thing we want to ensure is that our players do not view the guides as someone with ultimate authority as the actual GMs should be. So we want to stay away from names that imply authority… sorry no PoPo for joo! I agree guide may not have the right feel, we also considered Junior, but with the new family system…. Ummm yeah no. So keep the suggestions coming! Will the applicants be restricted to the Los Angeles area? No, of course not. By service area we mean anyone who has access to Global MapleStory. If you are accessing our server via a BAD BAD BAD connection that will not count as you MUST be in our service area to even be playing Global MapleStory. I hope that makes sense. I could tell you more, but it’s a bunch of legal mumbo jumbo that makes my head hurt. Will the progress of the players remain intact? Just to clarify, the guide account will be an entirely different account than your play account. They will have nothing to do with each other and should never be associated as the same person in any way. We want the guides to be guides when they are guiding. We want the players to be players when they are playing. No playing when you’re guiding… no guiding when you’re playing (but you can still use the AlertGM function like everyone should anyway!!!) What if I have characters on all servers, does that mean I am disqualified? I do not want to discourage anyone from applying so if you have characters on every server, but really only play on one or two, we will try to work with you. We truly want to prevent possible abuse, so it is imperative that we do not allow the guides to patrol a server that they have a direct interest and connection too. Think of it this way… there is a player who has been bugging you… as a guide you decide to report them and get them in trouble… is that cool? For those of you who said yes, don’t bother applying. J Just kidding, but you all know what I mean… it’s not cool and we don’t want to put the guides in any situation where they have to make a judgment call based on personal feelings. Do we have to “work” a certain amount of time each day? No, because you are not Nexon employees we will not have schedules. Volunteering for this program should be just that… volunteering. You put the time in YOU want to WHEN you want to. We will expect you to keep track of daily activities when you do choose to patrol, but as far as when and for how long? That is completely up to you. Will guides be considered for employment at Nexon? That depends! If there are positions open at Nexon, you are always welcome to apply. But if the question is will a guide be considered over other applicants… then it’s just way too early to say. We really want to get this program going and see how it works out. My personal feeling is that if you work hard and being in the gaming industry is where you want to be, then you simply need to keep working and looking for that open door. J How do you think I got here? Will a guide's report have more priority over the AlertGM reports? Again, this depends. We have many different GMs assigned to do many different things. So specific GMs will be assigned to monitor and review guide reports, just as we have specific GMs assigned to monitor and review player reports, and specific GMs assigned to monitor and review harassment tickets, and specific GMs to answer player questions in the ticketing system… get the picture? Basically, in order for the guide program to work, yes the GMs will have to work closely with them to obtain the evidence and take action. Why is the level requirement so high? We actually hee-hawed quite a bit on what the accepted level should be. We want to ensure that those who are applying are dedicated Maplers. Does this mean that a level 54 is not a dedicated Mapler? No, it does not. It simply means, we had to start somewhere. If the level requirement proves itself to be too high (or low for that matter) we will consider adjusting it. I want you all to know that these questions you bring up are valid and really make us think! Thank you! Why is the level requirement so low? We understand that some higher level players may be concerned about what a level 70 might “view” as hacking/abuse. This is why ALL evidence will be reviewed by a GM before any action is taken. There should be a timed test of knowledge... Genius.
So you have all given me a lot to think about and I appreciate it! Keep the feedback coming and keep looking out for more info on this program.
That high level thing is related to the mentor thread somewhere else on the forums, but is not related to this thread. The mentor thread just allowed newbies to ask questions to some pros. They changed the name of the "Maple Mentor Program" thread, the one discussed here, to the "Maple Guild Program."
Quote:Those accounts have very minimal abilities and no player will be allowed to volunteer on same sever(s) they play on to prevent abuse or biased actions.
I seldom add my input in South Perry but I feel there's another angle to consider here.
Let's say you're a Guide of your own server and from how things are being done, people knows you're a Guide. You know you're not going to abuse your (limited) powers. But one day, you just so happen to catch your most hated nemesis in the act of sending monsters flying across the screen. You report it and he got banned.
Then you found his buddies, whom you didn't really like, sending more monsters flying across more screens, and got them all banned. He and his buddies knows the Guide of that server is you and thinks you're out to get them, and spread malicious rumours that you're a biased SOB.
Yeah, you and (depending on how good they are with things) the GMs know that's not true, but the public don't. Fact is that you disliked the dude, you're the Guide of the server, and he and his buddies got banned because you reported them. Regardless of the percentage of the public believing the story, as long as it's out there and people has the littlest doubts about the Guide program, the damage is done.
If Nexon had thought about this, I do think it can be part of why it's better to keep the Guides off their own server. Not that the same won't happen if you're a Guide in another server, but you're a lot less likely to have a hated nemesis in another server that you're not majoring in.