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Devil Wrote:Yes, for Assassinate it -does- work that way (if you don't believe me, check it out yourself). The KB effect is applied AFTER the first 3 hits...
So if a group of Shadowers with onyx apples can deal out 140k/3 = 47.000 damage per separate assassinate hit (uncharged), they can keep the PB knocked back... in theory... 
Lol, you truely believe the pink bean fights will consist out of shadowers as main attackers? You really overrate your own class in every post on this board. Once the boss will actually be fought you'll see that its just the regular set up as on every boss fight and your stubborn theories will be proven wrong again.
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wannabe much?
oh and he reminds me the most of Dumb Buu more then any other boss
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Devil Wrote:Yes, for Assassinate it -does- work that way (if you don't believe me, check it out yourself). The KB effect is applied AFTER the first 3 hits...
So if a group of Shadowers with onyx apples can deal out 140k/3 = 47.000 damage per separate assassinate hit (uncharged), they can keep the PB knocked back... in theory... 
Good luck dealing 94k per hit uncharged. Bean's resistance to Physical would halve that to 47k, which would pretty much screw you over.
Instead of pinning him, let's try a few Vipers and some Shadowers with maxed Smoke Shell (of course, you wouldn't use Smoke Shell OR Time Leap until the last phase, and even then, Bean himself will probably take an hour or more to kill).
Also, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be able to hit Ariel at all if you're not an Archmage if you don't have over 123% Jump (except for NLs, who should be able to stand on the edge of the screen and jumpshot her). Just throwing that out there. o_o
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ACTUALLY, does ninja storm (that one that pushes stuff), from night lords, KB bosses? If so, it could help quite a lot when maxed... A bit risky, too, though.
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Alloy Wrote:ACTUALLY, does ninja storm (that one that pushes stuff), from night lords, KB bosses? If so, it could help quite a lot when maxed... A bit risky, too, though.
Or Dragon Breath. o_o
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Psycho status = seduce a la HT, correct? If so, god damn. This is gonna be rough.
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Renascentia Wrote:Lol, you truely believe the pink bean fights will consist out of shadowers as main attackers? You really overrate your own class in every post on this board. Once the boss will actually be fought you'll see that its just the regular set up as on every boss fight and your stubborn theories will be proven wrong again.
You sound much more arrogant than him. Get over yourself. Damn Dark Kinghts. He didn't say they were main attackers, he said they could keep it knocked back in theory.
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Renascentia Wrote:Lol, you truely believe the pink bean fights will consist out of shadowers as main attackers? You really overrate your own class in every post on this board. Once the boss will actually be fought you'll see that its just the regular set up as on every boss fight and your stubborn theories will be proven wrong again.
if this boss doesn't allow rush or dragon breath to work on him; then keeping him pinned thro sheer damage will be the only way to do it, and the only classes that can dish out 70ks fast enough to keep him pinned are paladins blast, and shadowers assassinate.
Then again, if rush and dragon breath both work, then this fight might be a piece of cake.
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DrRusty Wrote:if this boss doesn't allow rush or dragon breath to work on him; then keeping him pinned thro sheer damage will be the only way to do it, and the only classes that can dish out 70ks fast enough to keep him pinned are paladins blast, and shadowers assassinate.
Then again, if rush and dragon breath both work, then this fight might be a piece of cake.
His KB is 140k. Read the spoiler at the top.
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Fiel Wrote:His KB is 140k. Read the spoiler at the top.
oh....
in that case, if dragon pulse and rush don't work, then yeah shadowers will be our only chance to keep him pinned.
Seriously though, if dragon pulse works on pink bean, this fight is gonna be so easy.
Any BMs wanna play some pink bean tennis?
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One more thing. Isn't it true that DP and Rush just push and don't necessarily knock back? In other words, they just move the monster but don't cause the knockback animation.
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Devil Wrote:Yes, for Assassinate it -does- work that way (if you don't believe me, check it out yourself). The KB effect is applied AFTER the first 3 hits...
So if a group of Shadowers with onyx apples can deal out 140k/3 = 47.000 damage per separate assassinate hit (uncharged), they can keep the PB knocked back... in theory... 
I just tested this myself at skeles. They dont get knocked back unless i physically do a 5k hit. If i do 4k + 4k + 4k it doesnt get kb'd
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Hmmm I just thought of something: Can't 3rd job archer's Puppet make him stand in 1 corner? xD
I've never seen a Puppet spam team. Does spamming Puppet even work with multiple puppets / does it effect Pink Bean?
Puppet -does- seem to work on every monster and boss, so I don't see why it wouldn't work on this one... The question is only if archers can survive the full screen magic attacks, since they even have a hard time surviving horntail below lvl 170... And 30 levels of normal levelup is only 600~700 HP extra... :o
Time for a Blood Puppeteer Squad?
[SIZE="1"] P.S. to Renascentia: Plz keep this board flamebait free? I was only stating hypothetical attacking possibilities...[/SIZE]
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I think that with the advent of this boss, the only possible future of archers at PB will be Bloodmasters and Bloodsmen.
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Puppet doesn't work with multiple people attacking the monster. I guess it could work if an Archer tried soloing Pink Bean, but that won't happen anytime soon unless they go the blood route maybe.
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you could be such a jerk as a warrior at pink been.... Wait till the final form has like 100k hp, then get further away from pink been so everyones in front of you, then ... BAM! monster magnet. Solo that 100k and get all his beast drops. Make 100's of bils that way lol. And does pink been have any signature drops? like a pink overall? ex. +20 to all stats? that would be beast.
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Fiel Wrote:One more thing. Isn't it true that DP and Rush just push and don't necessarily knock back? In other words, they just move the monster but don't cause the knockback animation.
Rush just requires you do contact damage to push a monster back, however it doesn't work while a monster is recovering from a KB which is why it has trouble at bosses (or if you PS+FA then Rush, the FA and Rush are too close together and it can't push anything the FA KB'd)
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ahoboandahal Wrote:you could be such a jerk as a warrior at pink been.... Wait till the final form has like 100k hp, then get further away from pink been so everyones in front of you, then ... BAM! monster magnet. Solo that 100k and get all his beast drops. Make 100's of bils that way lol. And does pink been have any signature drops? like a pink overall? ex. +20 to all stats? that would be beast.
monster magnet works on bosses?
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Wow, thats some insane hp o_o. I can't wait to see the videos for this since I don't boss xD.
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