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Why do we censor in Schools?
#21
Kevo Wrote:In High School, we had to read many books with profane words, sex, rape and all that stuff.

I guess the content might be a little intense, but it sparks a good debate/conversation in class.

Love in The Time of Cholera? That book had loads in it <_< Starts with stalking, moves to the guy getting raped, then to more stuff. Basically its got it all, sex rape (both ways) as well as incest, which was an odd one @_a it was a teenage girl (not 18 for sure) who goes to live with the main character, who is a distant uncle or something cant remember for sure, who is at least 60. He basically puts the moves on her. She gets to the point where she cant live without having sex with him. He puts an end to it when the love interest in the book (lol over arching stories) becomes single again, she kills herself. Really, that was the worst i read in HS when it came to in book topics.

Also read "Portrait of The Artist As a Young Man", that had prostitutes and sexual fixations while becoming a clergyman in the catholic church. Really a good read.

Outside of those there wasnt really anything that stuck out as having bad content. And there was no one who went out after that and turned their underage distant relative into a "sex slave" or anything.


One thing to notice is that the level of censorship will lower as you get higher in the grade levels. Early grade levels, I would say "fox" as the F word, and was basically told not to say fox for a while :\ Later on, they were teaching about people being killed in history. And after that i cant vouche since i basically went from middle school straight to college.
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#22
Sn1perJohnE Wrote:And after that i cant vouche since i basically went from middle school straight to college.
Goggleemoticon

How did you do that?
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#23
im a living oxymoron Big Grin

nah, I took 1 class at a home school for high school, and went full time to the community college near my house. I got both college credits and high school credits for my classes at the college. So, that was started when i was 15, at 18, I started my senior year at the high school that was actually on the college campus, in which i went there from 1 pm til 6:30 pm, Monday through Thursday, and had to take 1 college class each semester (2 for the school year). I technically graduated with my AA degree and my high school diploma at the same time, but one class in the college level prevented both to be actual.

Now, I say im a living oxymoron because im a dumb genius, in that im smart as hell in a lot of things, but will have dumb moments just from thinking to fast, and my grades will never show how smart I actually am :c)
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Sn1perJohnE Wrote:Now, I say im a living oxymoron because im a dumb genius, in that im smart as hell in a lot of things, but will have dumb moments just from thinking to fast, and my grades will never show how smart I actually am :c)
QFT
grades arent always showing how smart you are, they show how bored you are. i know a few very smart people which fail many tests due to laziness.
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haha01haha01 Wrote:QFT
grades arent always showing how smart you are, they show how bored you are. i know a few very smart people which fail many tests due to laziness.
I concur. I got kicked out of AP Physics enrollment for next year because my Honors Chem grade was a C (from skipping almost every homework assignment lol). Tongue

(I'm officially pissed at all the Regular Chem people who were allowed into AP Physics because that class is ridiculously easier compared to Honors Chem. My stupid counselor told me that people who received lower than a B in chem are generally the ones who struggle in AP Physics, but what of the regular chem people vs the honors chem people?)

Lame huh? Now I have to take Chem AND Physics at a Community College. >_>
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haha01haha01 Wrote:QFT
grades arent always showing how smart you are, they show how bored you are. i know a few very smart people which fail many tests due to laziness.

Harrisonized Wrote:I concur. I got kicked out of AP Physics enrollment for next year because my Honors Chem grade was a C (from skipping almost every homework assignment lol). Tongue

(I'm officially pissed at all the Regular Chem people who were allowed into AP Physics because that class is ridiculously easier compared to Honors Chem. My stupid counselor told me that people who received lower than a B in chem are generally the ones who struggle in AP Physics, but what of the regular chem people vs the honors chem people?)

Lame huh? Now I have to take Chem AND Physics at a Community College. >_>

Interestingly enough, my speech topic for speech class is how the No Child Left Behind Act (<<<standardized testing) is affecting kids in a negative way. Sucks tho, I still havnt found a personal story about it affecting someone <_< i may revert to using the movie Rocket Science as a comparison narrative.

There are signs that show that the No Child act ends up failing the smarter kids in the end, as they will eventually be isolated from the rest of the class due to being "above" the minimum mark without signs of falling below it, but this is usually in larger population areas, and places where there are lots of non-english native speakers (yay california X_X)
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#27
haha01haha01 Wrote:QFT
grades arent always showing how smart you are, they show how bored you are. i know a few very smart people which fail many tests due to laziness.

I know a few people like that, they don't do the work, they won't get the grades, and boy are they going to be pissed when they don't get into the universities they want at the end of this year.

Not doing work you get that contributes to your actually grade means you are stupid in at least one way.Rolleyes
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Sn1perJohnE Wrote:There are signs that show that the No Child act ends up failing the smarter kids in the end, as they will eventually be isolated from the rest of the class due to being "above" the minimum mark without signs of falling below it, but this is usually in larger population areas, and places where there are lots of non-english native speakers (yay california X_X)
I don't really know much about the No-Child left behind act, but I do know that although all teachers teach differently, many of the teachers' styles are so focused on... cramming concepts into a student's head through repetitive homework problems. Walking children through problems. Reading materials aloud in class. Copying notes.

A lot of the smarter kids shirk or procrastinate, because a large proportion of the school take outside tutoring classes as it is SO much more effective than trying to understand the school teacher, or self studying the notes copied off the board.

In addition, everyone at the school in which I attend have a bad habit of finding out their grades, calculating the exact amount of points necessary to get whatever grade or maintain that grade. Since our GPA system is 90~100 = A, 80~89 = B, 70~79 = C, nobody aims for a 100% in the class. People just calculate what they need for a 90. If they're stuck in the B zone with no way to get to an A, then they'll just calculate the 80% mark and procrastinate even further. This is a MAJOR blow though, to those who are hopelessly stuck in the C zone (as you probably know, feelings of helplessness almost always become a self fulfilling prophecy).

Overall, I think it's the feeling of having a lack of control that kills us all.

1) We can't control when we want to have class. I know that a long time ago, the school in which I attend was an open campus, much like a college campus and students were allowed to choose when to take classes, unlike now... who the hell wants to take class at 7:40 in the morning, and then get penalized for being late a few minutes to class because you couldn't run fast enough...

2) We can't control what classes to take. We're all limited to 6 classes a year, 7 if a class is offered during 7th period. If we want to take classes that we're actually interested in, then we'd have to take some of the required classes elsewhere. I had to end up taking my language classes elsewhere. And now with the NEW grade requirement, many of us are denied the APs that we want to take. I mean, what the hell. I wasn't really interested in Chemistry, so I shirked that class, and then they change the rules... when did THAT become a requirement to get into AP Physics? The counselor tells me that I'll probably fail AP Physics. (which isn't true because I never fail the classes that I'm interested in ._.)

3) We can't control what we want to do (as a freaking PARENT signature is required EVERYWHERE). I really don't understand why teachers can't trust their students. Why should your parents have control of your activities? They're not the ones doing the studying, they're not the ones getting the grades, why should they control what you should be able to right?

It's unfortunate, but my school was ranked one of the best in the entire nation. Tongue

I like the UC school system better. I strongly believe that transforming the current high school system into a college-like system will benefit people more than the current system today, as person's self esteem can be pretty beneficial or self defeating...

I know this one person who just took the required classes (US History, English, Calculus) and moved on to college at age 12 because graduation isn't a requirement for college and he hated the school system so much. Damn, I wish I would have thought of that instead enduring this crap. I was too dumb to understand the whole system before I got in high school, so I guess it's too late for that now. >_>

At least I'm guaranteed to get into some of the UCs. I"ll enjoy it there.
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