2009-03-25, 04:26 PM
I think you get 1% until it gets up to 100k, then you just get 100k.
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Magatia Drops
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2009-03-25, 04:49 PM
Harrisonized Wrote:Hmm... does this mean they took out the Helm INT 60%s and Chaos scrolls from the drop? NoJobNoRules Wrote:Why would they? Like Isaac said, everything was copypasta from the Magatia of another version. The drops weren't intentional - it is just a coincidence that the things we need are dropped in Magatia. That's all. Let me try to explain this... The drop tables are static. They always drop the same items. However, certain items only appear to you if you have X quest active/available/not available. This is why you can party with someone who has completed a quest and still loot the Quest Item drops off their kills. The Plant Fossils ALWAYS drop from Green mushrooms, even if you're level 200 and did the quest 3 years ago. If you kill a green mushroom, it will drop one. However, because you're not on that quest, you won't see them. This is especially obvious in Test Servers, because you'll frequently see "gaps" in the drops. For example: X________MET_____Q X and Q are quest items, while the M is Mesos, E is ETC, and T is an arbitrary rare drop (say a Top equip). Why do the X and Q items land so far apart from the other items? Because there are invisible items that you can't see that landed in between. Weird, I know, but that's how it works. So, what was going on in Magatia is that those drops weren't programmed correctly to be associated with the quest; thus, they were dropping all the time. Now that those items are associated with a Quest on Nexon's servers, they're only seen when on that quest. On the other hand, there are numerous other worthless items that still didn't get a quest yet (99% caocao, baking powder of loneliness, etc.) and those are still dropping. When/If they implement the quest those are used for, you'll stop seeing them. That doesn't mean Nexon altered Magatia monsters' drops at all, it just means that those items are now "invisible" to you because you're not on the quest. Short version: Nexon didn't change the drop tables so Chaos Scrolls probably do drop still.
2009-03-25, 09:39 PM
IsaacGS Wrote:The drop tables are static. They always drop the same items. However, certain items only appear to you if you have X quest active/available/not available. This is why you can party with someone who has completed a quest and still loot the Quest Item drops off their kills. The Plant Fossils ALWAYS drop from Green mushrooms, even if you're level 200 and did the quest 3 years ago. If you kill a green mushroom, it will drop one. However, because you're not on that quest, you won't see them. This is especially obvious in Test Servers, because you'll frequently see "gaps" in the drops. For example:I've actually made this observation quite a while ago. However, what I've observed is that unless someone who has the quest activated is in the party or hits the monster that you are killing, then the quest item isn't triggered to drop. That's why you normally don't see Green Mushroom's drop like your stated example with X, MET, and Q. Also, I have a problem understanding that drop tables are static, because so many people have come up to me and told me that Nexon can change the drops at any time because drops are server sided. IsaacGS Wrote:So, what was going on in Magatia is that those drops weren't programmed correctly to be associated with the quest; thus, they were dropping all the time. Now that those items are associated with a Quest on Nexon's servers, they're only seen when on that quest. On the other hand, there are numerous other worthless items that still didn't get a quest yet (99% caocao, baking powder of loneliness, etc.) and those are still dropping. When/If they implement the quest those are used for, you'll stop seeing them. That doesn't mean Nexon altered Magatia monsters' drops at all, it just means that those items are now "invisible" to you because you're not on the quest.They're not invisible as they still drop at a great rate from the Magatian monsters. However, I was asking that since Nexon can apparently control the drops whenever they want, would they take out the Chaos Scrolls and Helm Int 60%s and whatever wasn't supposed to be there when they do fix it. IsaacGS Wrote:Short version: Nexon didn't change the drop tables so Chaos Scrolls probably do drop still.Reading this gave me a new question to ask: Since Nexon's droptables are copied directly from other versions, does this mean that the Chaos Scrolls found from monsters can break your items when they work, as opposed to the nonbreaking version from gach?
2009-03-25, 09:48 PM
Harrisonized Wrote:I've actually made this observation quite a while ago. However, what I've observed is that unless someone who has the quest activated is in the party or hits the monster that you are killing, then the quest item isn't triggered to drop. That's why you normally don't see Green Mushroom's drop like your stated example with X, MET, and Q.when I say "Static" what I mean is that if they do drop an item, it's available all the time. The only case where an item is added or removed to the drop table would be something like Nevermelting Snows or Maple Leaves, where they didn't require a quest to drop. I'm betting that if you could go back and activate, say, an old BBQ quest, you'd still be able to get those quest items even today. Yes, they *can* change the drop table at any time, (in fact at midnight on the 24th all monsters began dropping Liar sap, which they hadn't done before) but that doesn't mean they do it all the time. The liar sap change was automated, probably set on the date of the last patch. My point was, Nexon didn't change the Magatia Drop tables at all, it's just the items you could previously see are now invisible to you. It's the illusion that they changed it, but they really didn't. As for Chaos Scrolls, the answer is no because there's only one chaos scroll ID, so they would all drop the same type of chaos scroll, including Gach. However, it was only the test server original version of Chaos Scrolls that could break, the Chaos Scrolls in GMS are working correctly (They got rid of the breaking possibility)
2009-03-26, 11:14 AM
For 4th jobbers is the most shietty quest ever... You spend 30 minutes ksing noobs at HHG to gain 0.1% exp for completing the quest...
So if you do the quest 24/7 for 30 days in a row, you'll gain 2.4 * 30 = 72% exp per month... :') Nexon never stops at failing in making quests... proved once again... shietty company... scamming kids is the only thing they do right...
2009-03-26, 12:08 PM
RoxStarz Wrote:Do all the magentia monsters drop chaos scrolls or just some of them? Could you please ask once more time, i didn't quite understand the question ![]() This is classified information, people who know about this had spent some times researching and aren't really willing to let this info be a sticky on basil. just a small hint: the number is greater or equal than 2
2009-03-26, 01:16 PM
Devil Wrote:For 4th jobbers is the most shietty quest ever... You spend 30 minutes ksing noobs at HHG to gain 0.1% exp for completing the quest... Then don't do it? |
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