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A similar skill, the Buccaneer's Snatch, works on bosses.
Mobile ones like Geist. I haven't gotten around to trying it on other bosses, but I don't see why it wouldn't.
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GameMX, can you even honestly tell us what you saw when the DrK supposedly Monster Magneted the archer boss? It shouldn't really be invisible. Furthermore, MM pulls the monster just up to your face, not on top of you.
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KajitiSouls Wrote:GameMX, can you even honestly tell us what you saw when the DrK supposedly Monster Magneted the archer boss? It shouldn't really be invisible. Furthermore, MM pulls the monster just up to your face, not on top of you.
The magnet coming out of the warrior's head appeared (the animation).
The archer boss would not move from a certain location. The DK was at the very left corner. It was face to face with the archer boss, and his back turned around, facing the DK, and his back facing the range. The DK was the only one being stunned for the time being, and he was getting hit for 15,000+ quite sometimes, as some of the range were on Enchantment items (Gelts, Apples). No knock backs being successful, even with the damage.
After a certain amount of time, the magnet seemed to be lost, he was on the same ground, not moving, nor being knock backed, for about 20~30 seconds. The DK couldn't magnet much due to the stun and seal of the Archer boss.
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GameMX Wrote:The magnet coming out of the warrior's head appeared (the animation).
Other than the magnet >_> There should have been something else.
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Shippo the Fox Wrote:Yes they will. It's called that little arrow button next to you HP on the stats screen. 
You obviously never added points into HP. If you make it so that you can survive 11k hits with hb, as a hermit, that means wasting around 20 level adding nothing other than hp.
That means:
1- We would be EVEN HARDER to train. Mob attack is not our best bet in the first place. Now imagine getting exp at half the speed.
2- Without that power lost in those 20 levels, nobody will want us.
Putting points into HP help, but without HP wash, it's totally impractical: Like making an hp warrior without power guard D:
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KajitiSouls Wrote:Other than the magnet >_> There should have been something else.
The Catch/Failure.
I wish I could say I saw that myself, I did see some blue over the monster, but the numbers were stacking over it too fast >_>.
Will have to go back and see how this is though, just without the attackers at the same time. But it was all too odd if Monster Magnet didn't work itself.
But you must wonder at the same time, it would kind of make sense if it did actually do this, controlling bosses. Going back on the facts about PB...
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GameMX Wrote:The Catch/Failure.
I wish I could say I saw that myself, I did see some blue over the monster, but the numbers were stacking over it too fast >_>.
Good enough, the CATCH! message is blue, but the MISS message is red xD
This is definitely odd...
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KajitiSouls Wrote:Good enough, the CATCH! message is blue, but the MISS message is red xD
This is definitely odd...
Well, to my knowledge, he can't be stunned/poisoned or we would have known by now. Obviously that means he still has the boss flag. Leading us to the conclusion that nexon has the ability to distinguish bosses by magnet-able statuses. Since you can't magnet some mobile bosses, that pretty much confirms that. o_o
Hopefully PB has this status as well...
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2009-03-17, 03:58 PM
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Shippo the Fox Wrote:Yes they will. It's called that little arrow button next to you HP on the stats screen. 
Woohoo, either cripple your character to the point that it's doing 3rd job damage at level 180 (and thereby being completely useless for attacking) or HP wash with int gear costing billions and spend nearly one million NX (even with MTS, this is a daunting amount), just for the sake of surviving one boss. Hm, no thanks.
You should never have to invest AP into HP. People who don't play ranged classes are so nonchalant about the idea of being 1hkoed, like it's not frustrating at all to have to spend a ton of money just to ensure that a tombstone won't fall over your head the moment you walk into a boss chamber, regardless of how skilled you are at playing your character.
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I'm definitely trying this strategy with lvl 1 magnet next time i'm in there.
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Dusk Wrote:You should never have to invest AP into HP.
I guess Warriors shouldn't have to invest AP into DEX to hit the Grandpa boss, either...
Bosses with over 160 acc requirement are totally unfair and need to be nerfed ASAP
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Stereo Wrote:I guess Warriors shouldn't have to invest AP into DEX to hit the Grandpa boss, either...
Bosses with over 160 acc requirement are totally unfair and need to be nerfed ASAP
Pfft, sez you. Pink Been needs over 200 acc to 100% hit. It's only natural that monster have higher avoid as the difficulty lvl increases.
About AP into HP for blood build, that's a tough debate. I should say it's very infeasible if the boss hits an excess of 15k however.
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Stereo Wrote:I guess Warriors shouldn't have to invest AP into DEX to hit the Grandpa boss, either...
Bosses with over 160 acc requirement are totally unfair and need to be nerfed ASAP
How about it lets you wear better equipments? :p
Not to mention accuracy is WAY easier to get than hp, since both DEX and accuracy add into it. However, hp is quite harder... Shoes? nope. Cape? Like there are scrolled. Hats? Zakum helmet... 50 hp if you use 100%s. And the ones that give us hp also give acc as an alternative.
Only the latest GMS items seem to provide hp at a similar rate to accuracy. Like the mark of naricain, with 300 hp, the deputy star, etc... Not to mention that not being able to 100% hit a monster doesn't mean you simply can't do anything. In fact, being DEAD does quite less.
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Note: No amount of uber godly acc weapons is ever gonna let you hit G-Boss 100% of the time without like 200 base dex.
Stereo is obviously making the remark that Warriors suck it up and avoid certain bosses because the accuracy just doesn't allow them too, is it too hard to imagine maybe Ranged weren't meant for the Last part of Pink Bean (I'm assuming only the last part does ridiculous damage).
Ofcourse I might have totally missed her point too.
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Phoenix Wrote:Note: No amount of uber godly acc weapons is ever gonna let you hit G-Boss 100% of the time without like 200 base dex.
Stereo is obviously making the remark that Warriors suck it up and avoid certain bosses because the accuracy just doesn't allow them too, is it too hard to imagine maybe Ranged weren't meant for the Last part of Pink Bean (I'm assuming only the last part does ridiculous damage).
Ofcourse I might have totally missed her point too.
Ah, but as a monster book maniac, I'd love to... you know... be able to loot the card at some point, even if I don't do much. Being dead doesn't let me do that too much D:
EDIT:
ok, saw a pair of things here... ok, Warriors don't need DEX for their equipments, but thiefs do, for example. Adding in both hp and DEX can become... unbearable. As a normal build, I have 126 DEX at level 108, and it gives me no other benefit than being able to equip my claw, because of L7's formula. We can't simply choose the dexless way anyways.
Also, the accuracy improves when you level, meaning that when you level up, you need less accuracy to hit bosses or other stuff. We get around 30 hp every time we level. :p
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KajitiSouls Wrote:Pfft, sez you. Pink Been needs over 200 acc to 100% hit. It's only natural that monster have higher avoid as the difficulty lvl increases.
About AP into HP for blood build, that's a tough debate. I should say it's very infeasible if the boss hits an excess of 15k however.
It is also natural for a boss to hit more damage as its level increases.
Phoenix, I believe you got it right. These ranged classes complaining about it need to suck it up considering some classes don't even get the chance to step into a boss room unless they're lucky or just because some runs had extra space.
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This absolutely ridiculous. Why would they make a "final boss" That half the classes in the game were never intended to fight? Use some common sense please.
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IsaacGS Wrote:Use some common sense please.
Ill start applying common sense to Maplestory when Nexon do.
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Maybe if there were potions or equips that gave me boosts of like 1000 HP I'd feel better. Accuracy is just a second stat for Warriors. Ranged classes already have two stats, no 3rd stat please.
If I recall correctly, none of the actual KMS-created bosses stop warriors from participating, it's only the stupid broken JMS bosses that do thing like exclude classes completely. peach at JMS, not ranged classes.
And don't even pretend like not being able to hit a boss is as bad as dying in one hit without any possible means of dodging it, with HP gears and at level 200. FULL SCREEN 1HKO. FULL SCREEN.
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IsaacGS Wrote:This absolutely ridiculous. Why would they make a "final boss" That half the classes in the game were never intended to fight? Use some common sense please.
Agreed with Kirov. Common sense obviously hasn't been used much considering half the classes weren't being used ANYWAY for some previous bosses.
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