Ask a Bowman Thread.

I am training an archer since my mage is 40 and warrior 30, he is level 17 right now got any advice before I mess him up?

TOTAL str = lv, everything else in dex.

max critical, eye of the amazon and double shot in first job.
goggles are awesome

How's the damage in the new pq?

Will archers need HB for the fights? Is 4k enough to tank all the bosses?

How's the damage in the new pq?

Will archers need HB for the fights? Is 4k enough to tank all the bosses?

3.1k for the beginning of the fight, which is easily achieved by a 120 archer without washing. 5.1k (not sure) after Red Nirg casts his trumpet attack, which should still be survivable with HB.

What was the change to the Crimson Arclancer?

What was the change to the Crimson Arclancer?

I don't think they even changed it.
My 3 crappy arclancer didn't change at all.
Or maybe it doesn't affect the already existant weapons at all.

I'm at a bit of a stand-still with my training. I know at my level (122) that Newties are best, but I play during peak hours when finding a map or party is nearly impossible.

I need alternatives.

I have 3173 HP, which means that I'm a one hit kill from both Skeles and Guardians. I have no intention to blood or wash.

My fourth jobs skills are allocated in the following manner:
7 SE
1 BE
1 Hurricane

I also have level 29 Hawk.

I've tried going up to Guardians with HP equipment, but since I can't attack with them, I get owned pretty badly if I mis-step and fall off.

I also pretty much levelled up until 119 at Typhons. They're slow, but slightly tolerable and the maps are decently vacant. I read in another post that another BM had a point in Pheonix, and that it was helpful here. Would investing a point into Pheonix for this spot be worthwhile?

How's the EXP doing the bottom of Peak (party/solo)? Is it do-able at my level, with level 1 DB? I have maxed Puppet I can stick in mobs. Or is there a place on the top ledge I can place him? And if there is, is it safe from Skeles, since I still will be blasted and killed if I'm sharing a map.

How should I allocate my skill points for the next few levels to open up some new spots?

you will do good at peak, gimme a shout if you ever want to party there i has hs mule and crap. you can also try newtys if you can find a map.

peak is pretty good for archers at 4th job and use your hawk or the range attack will hurt. just pick em 1 at a time with hurricane and stand in the middle just turn and kill left and right. easy as pie.

I also pretty much levelled up until 119 at Typhons. They're slow, but slightly tolerable and the maps are decently vacant. I read in another post that another BM had a point in Pheonix, and that it was helpful here. Would investing a point into Pheonix for this spot be worthwhile?

Phoenix isn't at all necessary, but for the single point that you put into it, it is pretty useful. Hawk will always beat it when you are training, but it helps at bosses and any weak enemies without magic attacks. If you want to focus more on training right now, don't get it, but if you slack, get it.

How's the EXP doing the bottom of Peak (party/solo)? Is it do-able at my level, with level 1 DB? I have maxed Puppet I can stick in mobs. Or is there a place on the top ledge I can place him? And if there is, is it safe from Skeles, since I still will be blasted and killed if I'm sharing a map.

How should I allocate my skill points for the next few levels to open up some new spots?

The EXP is fine, but the pot cost from those lock on vine attacks...my god that was annoying when I trained there during early 4th job. So annoying that I never went back there until I got to 150 at Newties and could kill them before they could do it. You can puppet to avoid it, but what makes it hard is if you're in a party and more keep spawning inside the mobs you are puppeting. There are places up top that you can set puppet at, yes.

Thanks, I'll try Peak out solo first and then give you a shout when I get used to the place a bit. If I love it, I'll go ahead and do 1 DB 2 SE next level <3

My crossbow-witch is going to be lvl 70 soon, and rather than ask what build is better to max first (strafe vs. arrow eruption) I want to get various bowman's opinions on each one so I can get a better idea of what I'll be experiencing with each skill.

Also, I want to get blizzard to lvl 21 ASAP, and was thinking of doing 2 points in the main skill (AE or strafe) and 1 point in blizzard until it's lvl 21. Would any snipers recommend not doing that, getting blizzard to 21 earlier, or sticking with the current build?

Arrow eruption most definitely. Typhons are unmatched in terms of exp, and pirates are there for money.

My crossbow-witch is going to be lvl 70 soon, and rather than ask what build is better to max first (strafe vs. arrow eruption) I want to get various bowman's opinions on each one so I can get a better idea of what I'll be experiencing with each skill.

Also, I want to get blizzard to lvl 21 ASAP, and was thinking of doing 2 points in the main skill (AE or strafe) and 1 point in blizzard until it's lvl 21. Would any snipers recommend not doing that, getting blizzard to 21 earlier, or sticking with the current build?

I went Strafe first and while it was useful at places like Windraiders and Newties, I fell in love with AE once I got it to level 4.

Blizzard's usefulness is very limited, considering that I have level one Blizzard and only used it as mob control at Windraiders and a lure at Typhons, I don't think an early Blizzard build would be good, unless you want to go to Gobys early. I also recall many high level Sniper saying that level 21 Blizzard is only useful for a longer freeze duration.

Aya, the only time I could see Blizzard early as useful, is if you used it to train at Black or Red kentaurus. Otherwise, it's not a good investment before AE and Strafe are maxed. With the exception of course, of a pure Newtie build like my own, that maxed AE at level 120.

My crossbow-witch is going to be lvl 70 soon, and rather than ask what build is better to max first (strafe vs. arrow eruption) I want to get various bowman's opinions on each one so I can get a better idea of what I'll be experiencing with each skill.

Also, I want to get blizzard to lvl 21 ASAP, and was thinking of doing 2 points in the main skill (AE or strafe) and 1 point in blizzard until it's lvl 21. Would any snipers recommend not doing that, getting blizzard to 21 earlier, or sticking with the current build?

eruption first is the way to go now a days. do not waste points in blizzard over lv 1 till you got all the basics covered, meaning, maxed strafe, maxed AE, decent puppet AT LEAST. dont waste good old points in blizzard till you need to. oh and for the love of sponge bob, MAX mortal blow

Thanks for the replies guys.

About Arrow Eruption first build, I was talking to some of the Marksmen in Mardia (all four of them ) and they couldn't think of any places aside from gryphons and pirates to train on. Has the new expansion added some new enemies to use AE on? I can't imagine training on typhons at lvl 7X with AE (due to it being so weak until maxed), but what do I know?

Thanks for the advice on blizzard, I'll definitely hold off on that 'til later.

And every marksman/bowmaster I know got max thrust, and frankly I hate moving around so slowly, so I was going to do the same too.

Thanks for the replies guys.

About Arrow Eruption first build, I was talking to some of the Marksmen in Mardia (all four of them ) and they couldn't think of any places aside from gryphons and pirates to train on. Has the new expansion added some new enemies to use AE on? I can't imagine training on typhons at lvl 7X with AE (due to it being so weak until maxed), but what do I know?

Thanks for the advice on blizzard, I'll definitely hold off on that 'til later.

And every marksman/bowmaster I know got max thrust, and frankly I hate moving around so slowly, so I was going to do the same too.

At early 7x, you're going to want to train on gryphons or monsters you can kill with strafe to build up your AE. Once you get AE to 11, you move to Pirates. I'm not sure about Typhons, but I believe you move there in your late 8x. Here's a link that you can refer to, a bit outdated, but it still works. Hope that helps.

http://www.sleepywood.net/forum/showthre...?t=1323943

Thanks for the replies guys.

About Arrow Eruption first build, I was talking to some of the Marksmen in Mardia (all four of them ) and they couldn't think of any places aside from gryphons and pirates to train on. Has the new expansion added some new enemies to use AE on? I can't imagine training on typhons at lvl 7X with AE (due to it being so weak until maxed), but what do I know?

Thanks for the advice on blizzard, I'll definitely hold off on that 'til later.

And every marksman/bowmaster I know got max thrust, and frankly I hate moving around so slowly, so I was going to do the same too.

Windraiders can easily take you to level 80. For the record though I do recall people saying they went to Typhons when they got level 11 AE, so it is not impossible to go there during 7x.

Max Thrust seems like a waste in my opinion, those points are better spent else where. With level 10 Thrust and a Speed Pill, you have 130 speed (If your bow gives 10+ speed that is 140 speed). So moving slow should not be an issue with level 10 Thrust.

Errr... I don't know who you're talking to, but you can get up to 60% an hour at typhons while still maxing eruption. Also, try not to max thrust because you'll want mortal blow maxed, and there are plenty of sources of speed.

And every marksman/bowmaster I know got max thrust, and frankly I hate moving around so slowly, so I was going to do the same too.

you dont need to max it, lv 10 is enough to get you max speed if you include what you get from equips.

you can take the points from eagle anyways, remember to max MB or you will regret it.

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And every marksman/bowmaster I know got max thrust, and frankly I hate moving around so slowly, so I was going to do the same too.

Ew, I've always preferred 0 Thrust to having any Thrust at all. Passive speed sucks. You run into monsters more often and a simple tap of the right key moves you into whacking range. I HATE WHACKING RANGE. Mortal Blow is not good enough to make up for what you could be doing with your other attacks. To avoid having to swing at stuff or proc MB, I make ample use of jump-shots when I train, and with high speed every jump-shot moves you annoyingly far. When you do need speed, you have mounts, and hopefully a few NL buddies for Haste.

...thinking back, not being able to jump-shot with Hurricane is the main reason I hated being a Bowmaster. When the KMST updates roll around, I may restart, depending on how much they reduced the dreaded whacking radius.