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Hero's Will? Pfft...
#1
It's called Pirate's Rage over here in Badass Country.

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Now if it was called "Pirate's Wrath" everything would be PERFECT.

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#2
/envy.

Anyways, thats how it happened. Badass yes.
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#3
Nice. Now see if Nexon did the skill properly and let you add up to 10 points in there.
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#4
And unfortunately it's still a pathetically worthless skill.
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#5
Yeah but it has "RAGE" in it. Gotta account for something.
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#6
Harrisonized Wrote:Nice. Now see if Nexon did the skill properly and let you add up to 10 points in there.

Thought it was supposed to be 1 though o_o

I still don't understand how the skill is worthless. Doesn't it cancel seduce? *has never been seduced*
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#7
Dusk Wrote:Thought it was supposed to be 1 though o_o

I still don't understand how the skill is worthless. Doesn't it cancel seduce? *has never been seduced*

Yup sure does, but what's the point in wasting 10 points that could go towards other 4th job skills?
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#8
Dusk Wrote:Thought it was supposed to be 1 though o_o

I still don't understand how the skill is worthless. Doesn't it cancel seduce? *has never been seduced*

It's worthless because its only use would be the most desperate of pinch. For example, your party is Bishopless for some reason, you get Sed'd and are doomed unless you cancel it and save yourself. In all the times I've HT'd, that's only happened once--and I would have been screwed anyway. For the vast majority of the time, your Bishop will keep you alive while you're Sed'd (if you ever even get Seduced...I rarely do). High HP characters can outlast Sed easily by themselves.

Plus Hero's Will has a retarded cooldown to make it even less practical.

shouri Wrote:Yup sure does, but what's the point in wasting 10 points that could go towards other 4th job skills?

It maxes at level 1.
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#9
shouri Wrote:Yup sure does, but what's the point in wasting 10 points that could go towards other 4th job skills?

But it's not 10 points.

@Felix, who is a crazy ninja: Ah, I see. I didn't realize Dispel cancelled seduce.

Edit: Wait, can Dispel be used while Sealed/Seduced?
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#10
Dusk Wrote:But it's not 10 points.

@Felix, who is a crazy ninja: Ah, I see. I didn't realize Dispel cancelled seduce.

Edit: Wait, can Dispel be used while Sealed/Seduced?

Dispel doesn't cancel seduce, only hero's will does.

Dispel can be used while sealed, and it can cancel seal for the whole part. No it can't be used while seduced.
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#11
Dusk Wrote:But it's not 10 points.

@Felix, who is a crazy ninja: Ah, I see. I didn't realize Dispel cancelled seduce.

Edit: Wait, can Dispel be used while Sealed/Seduced?

Dispel can't remove Seduce. Bishops just keep you alive by healing you while you're Sed.

Sorry for the confusion.
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#12
DrRusty Wrote:Dispel doesn't cancel seduce, only hero's will does.

Dispel can be used while sealed, and it can cancel seal for the whole part. No it can't be used while seduced.

0___0 Then how does the Bishop save you? *complete HT nub*

I realize you can be healed, but I was under the impression that walking into HT's body killed most characters.
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#13
That's why they usually kill the bottom parts (tail and legs) first.

Once they're gone you can walk back and forth all you want and not die so much. He just blasts you with 8k magic and summons.
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#14
Dusk Wrote:0___0 Then how does the Bishop save you? *complete HT nub*

I realize you can be healed, but I was under the impression that walking into HT's body killed most characters.

that's why shadowers are the best SED mules. dark site FTW. not to mention mesos gaurd cuts 1/1's in half.
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#15
Dusk Wrote:0___0 Then how does the Bishop save you? *complete HT nub*

I realize you can be healed, but I was under the impression that walking into HT's body killed most characters.

You don't walk into the body. lol During the legs/tail phase, it's really one person who gets Seduced. That person is typically a Shadower (Dark Sight + high avoid) or a very high HP Warrior. The other Sed phases don't cause anyone to walk into any body parts--just the rocks on either side. If you sit under them too long while Sed'd, you'll die (unless you're being Healed or have high HP).
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Stereo Wrote:That's why they usually kill the bottom parts (tail and legs) first.

Once they're gone you can walk back and forth all you want and not die so much. He just blasts you with 8k magic and summons.

DrRusty Wrote:that's why shadowers are the best SED mules. dark site FTW. not to mention mesos gaurd cuts 1/1's in half.

Ah, thanks, clears things up. One last total nub question - how do you get HT to actually seduce the seduce mule?
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#17
Dusk Wrote:Ah, thanks, clears things up. One last total nub question - how do you get HT to actually seduce the seduce mule?

Seduce follows the entry order. The first to enter the main altar is the first to get Seduced and so on and so on.
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#18
It seduces the first person to enter the map, they just enter in order they want to be seduced (so high hp/shadowers, then mid hp, then low hp/priests)


I dunno if it changes target after they die or if they'll still be the primary goal if they're resurrected though o.o
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#19
FelixTM Wrote:Seduce follows the entry order. The first to enter the main altar is the first to get Seduced and so on and so on.

Oh, ok. Kinda like that crappy thriller movie that shares its name with a stage in Melee, I guess. Thanks.
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#20
Stereo Wrote:It seduces the first person to enter the map, they just enter in order they want to be seduced (so high hp/shadowers, then mid hp, then low hp/priests)


I dunno if it changes target after they die or if they'll still be the primary goal if they're resurrected though o.o

If the SED dies, the next person who went in becomes the next seduce. If the first SED gets rez'd, then he/she becomes main seduce again.
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