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Clean Slate Glitch?
Harrisonized Wrote:Yes, that dumbass lightbulb every few hours is an intended feature. It's nexon's way of provoking it's players into buying tickets for the 'secret machine' to get rid of the lighbulb.

Your quest thing about the dead end quest is just comparing apples to oranges. You can't compare the two. Merely, the quest is unfinished because Nexon did not write the end of the chain. The white scroll returning the slot has no relevance to an unfinished quest chain.

 Unfinished?



...But I suppose it's an intended feature.
RDal Wrote:
 Unfinished?



...But I suppose it's an intended feature.
Look, you can't compare that to what we're talking about because there's absolutely no relevance. I have no idea where you're coming from, Rick. Don't include irrelevant things in your defense because they do not apply.

Read this:
MetaSeraphim Wrote:While this maybe a glitch to say people are bad for "abusing" it would be wrong, because like Harrisonized said it's not like they're editing or changing files to do it.

Unless you can specifically find a similar example, you cannot prove me wrong.
Still going, boys?

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Pull up a chair. Grab a drink with us.
Harrisonized Wrote:Look, you can't compare that to what we're talking about because there's absolutely no relevance. I have no idea where you're coming from, Rick. Don't include irrelevant things in your defense because they do not apply.

Harrisonized Wrote:No. As I said before, if Nexon doesn't declare it a glitch, it is not a glitch.

If it's not a glitch, and it's not intended, then tell me what it is.

MetaSeraphim Wrote:While this maybe a glitch to say people are bad for "abusing" it would be wrong, because like Harrisonized said it's not like they're editing or changing files to do it.

So the abuse towards the BigFoot glitching was unjustified because no files were edited? Well Nexon seemed to think it was justified, and I hope they see this justified too.
The only thing this thread has made me do is wish I had never sold those 2 or 3 Clean Slate scrolls I had in my possession months ago. Bawww...

FelixTM Wrote:
 Accurate representation of this thread

If you understood that connection, we need to hang out sometime. Grab a drink. Let me know!

Fapping at the speed of light.
Retalion Wrote:Wheeee

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To think when I did a 11 gach ticket run in Showa, my sis and I went "we got gachapwned... we're never gaching here again"... we just never sold these cause we cant stick them in MTS, lol.

$_$

That tears it, I must profit from this asap. Buying 30 Gacha Tickets tomorrow. Or is 11 tickets a great enough chance? Rolleyes


Opeth Wrote:Fapping at the speed of light.

I've fapped to better. :>
IllegallySane Wrote:I've fapped to better. :>

Whoa, tiger. Men don't judge on the quality of the things they've fapped to; rather, the quantity. I'd say another one for the list is a great thing.

More full Suigintou:

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Mmm.
To remain on-topic: Would the sudden influx of people gaching at Showa bring down Clean Slate scrolls to the <100m/<50m range, or would there be enough buyers to warrant a stable price range in the 100m-200m range?

FelixTM Wrote:Whoa, tiger. Men don't judge on the quality of the things they've fapped to; rather, the quantity.

Quantity over quality?? Blasphemy! :f6: If it doesn't meet my fap of approval, I delete it asap.
IllegallySane Wrote:$_$

That tears it, I must profit from this asap. Buying 30 Gacha Tickets tomorrow. Or is 11 tickets a great enough chance? Rolleyes




I've fapped to better. :>

err, I tried 35 tickets today and got complete junk (as in 250 power elixirs, like 10+ npc equips and a 10% xbow atk before I gave up and went to zipangu to try breaing even). Guess I got lucky last time. As it is, Im just gonna sell my tickets and be content with that.

On another note, I found another 5% clean slate in a mule, lol. $$$!
[COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"][SIZE="1"]I want a drink too =] this conversation is amusing

anyways this shouldn't really bother you since your not doing it its causing no harm to anyone, but if you wanna go ahead and complain then so be it.
My Two Pineapple's
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Serene Wrote:
[COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"][SIZE="1"]I want a drink too =] this conversation is amusing

anyways this shouldn't really bother you since your not doing it its causing no harm to anyone, but if you wanna go ahead and complain then so be it.
My Two Pineapple's
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Awesome! Plenty of room. Pick a spot next to one of us!

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*hic*
Retalion Wrote:err, I tried 35 tickets today and got complete junk (as in 250 power elixirs, like 10+ npc equips and a 10% xbow atk before I gave up and went to zipangu to try breaing even). Guess I got lucky last time. As it is, Im just gonna sell my tickets and be content with that.

On another note, I found another 5% clean slate in a mule, lol. $$$!

Actually, that's good then, because White Slate scroll prices won't be crashing to the ground like it did for skill books.
-Gacha boxing Chaos/White Scrolls = good, because prices remained really high. -Gacha boxing 30 books = bad, because those books (exception of maybe TT30) have been forever ruined and have no hopes of going back up in price.
RDal Wrote:So the abuse towards the BigFoot glitching was unjustified because no files were edited? Well Nexon seemed to think it was justified, and I hope they see this justified too.

I'm just saying that at the moment until Nexon does something about it, if they do something about it, there is nothing "truly" wrong with doing this,

FelixTM Wrote:Whoa, tiger. Men don't judge on the quality of the things they've fapped to; rather, the quantity. I'd say another one for the list is a great thing.

More full Suigintou:

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Mmm.

Wings?
RDal Wrote:If it's not a glitch, and it's not intended, then tell me what it is.
It is an intended feature until determined a glitch by Nexon.
RDal Wrote:So the abuse towards the BigFoot glitching was unjustified because no files were edited? Well Nexon seemed to think it was justified, and I hope they see this justified too.
No. The abuse towards BigFoot glitching was justified until they ANNOUNCED that BigFoot was indeed a glitch.

Unfortunately though, Nexon followed through by banning people who received over a certain amount of EXP which didn't exactly punish the correct people.
IllegallySane Wrote:To remain on-topic: Would the sudden influx of people gaching at Showa bring down Clean Slate scrolls to the <100m/<50m range, or would there be enough buyers to warrant a stable price range in the 100m-200m range?
Yes. That will definitely happen. Nobody has an infinite amount of money, and this kind of sale is not sustainable. If all rich people bought at this rate, then pretty soon, people will have to bring maxed meso mules out and you know how limited the amount of people with Maxed meso times x is.
MetaSeraphim Wrote:I'm just saying that at the moment until Nexon does something about it, if they do something about it, there is nothing "truly" wrong with doing this,
I'm saying the same. Biggrin
Harrisonized Wrote:Yes. That will definitely happen. Nobody has an infinite amount of money, and this kind of sale is not sustainable. If all rich people bought at this rate, then pretty soon, people will have to bring maxed meso mules out and you know how limited the amount of people with Maxed meso times x is.

So how long you think we have until White Slates lose it's value? A week? 2? Less than a week? Redface
[COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"][SIZE="1"]yay free drinks more please

anyways its kinda strange more white scrolls = rise in price
well its nice seeing the scrolls that were ignored being so massively wanted now i bet those scrolls are happy (scrolls: yay were being used)[/SIZE][/COLOR]
IllegallySane Wrote:So how long you think we have until White Slates lose it's value? A week? 2? Less than a week? Redface
It can't "lose" it's value. And I can't predict the time it'll take.

It's like lighting a candle in a closed container. The fire will eventually go out, but it's difficult to tell when it'll go out. It'll definitely go out though when the fuel runs out, that fuel being the meso stocked by the rich.
White Slates o-o
Harrisonized Wrote:It is an intended feature until determined a glitch by Nexon.

No. The abuse towards BigFoot glitching was justified until they ANNOUNCED that BigFoot was indeed a glitch.

So really what you've done is thrown all common sense out the window. I think it's pretty damn obvious Nexon didn't want to stick the Ifrit quest in my list for all eternity. It's not difficult to see that some of the stuff that goes on in the game isn't intended, yet you just want to look the other way and when it is finally announced you play the innocent act. Were those Chief Bandits in KMS justified collecting all those mesos with PickPocket just because it hadn't been announced as a glitch yet? By your logic, they should be able to keep it as long as it was obtained before it was announced. Because omg, how were they supposed to know snails weren't meant to drop hundres of millions of mesos? I'm saying it's pretty obvious when something is a glitch. You just choose not to accept it.
RDal Wrote:So really what you've done is thrown all common sense out the window. I think it's pretty damn obvious Nexon didn't want to stick the Ifrit quest in my list for all eternity. It's not difficult to see that some of the stuff that goes on in the game isn't intended, yet you just want to look the other way and when it is finally announced you play the innocent act. Were those Chief Bandits in KMS justified collecting all those mesos with PickPocket just because it hadn't been announced as a glitch yet? By your logic, they should be able to keep it as long as it was obtained before it was announced. Because omg, how were they supposed to know snails weren't meant to drop hundres of millions of mesos? I'm saying it's pretty obvious when something is a glitch. You just choose not to accept it.

It's true common sense is required in order to find what's a glitch before it's ever declared. However, the example you used is much different than the BF glitch.

1. The BF glitch was harmful in a sense it allowed people to power level, but it did not break the game because no one got to 200, or even to high level 4th job through this glitch. It ruined Yellonde for a while, but server mess =/= game breaking.
2. The Pickpocket glitch. It's VERY obvious that this broke the game, because it caused there to be a ludicrous amount of money being generated that not even hackers could produce. This affected prices of EVERYTHING.
3. The White Slate glitch does not produce more mesos, and having more godly items available in the FM does not break the game either. Rather, it'll reallocate the mesos among more people (to those that managed to obtain and sell White Slates). If anything, it slightly decreases the meso supply because of tax, and in the off chance it blows up a godly item in the making, then there's more demand for said item/scrolls. This only affects a small area of the FM. Everything remains relatively untouched.


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