First Pirate to solo zakum ~SeiiShiko~

nor can you really prove he didnt hack in zakum. Hacking zak by yourself doesnt count.

I guess but it can go either way. I am not saying this isn't the 1st legit zakum solo I just thought I would bring up the previous solo that I know of. I am not trying to deminish his achievement at all I still have yet to solo that beast.

Yah but people put bucs pretty low in terms of DPS. I've played almost all the classes, and I think bucs are pretty damn good at DPS. People try to say heros are stronger with brandish than bucs are with demolition, which I think is complete crap. There's no way a hero can outdmg maxed demolition. Seiishiko with apples is hitting 40ks with demolition. I'd like to see an apple'd hero do better DPS than 40k demolition. I don't give a shiet wut the DPS thread says or anyone else. There's no way brandish can outdmg demolition.

How about BM's? any times on 16x/17x BM zak solos?

Unfortunately it all comes down to the speed of the attack. At a meager 25 demo's a minute, Brandish is almost 4 times as fast =/ While Demo is only about 3 times stronger (if you have the Bucc and Hero at the same range, and we know that it's much harder for buccs to be at that much). Not to mention the fact that you can't Demo all the time.

One thing Bucc's have over Heroes at Zak is 2-4 minutes of Constant attacking on the top right arm. From what I've heard/experienced, that arm is more of a peach than the first body.

As for BM's, I've seen a 19x BM solo zak in less than an hour, and it's the fastest ranged Solo I've heard of. His equips were exemplary though...

Grats on the first Legit Pirate solo =] 2hr20min solo is way better than I could of imagined! It must of been hot to see all those hard hitting numbers.

Even though brandish might be a bit faster, the great part about demo is how you are invincible while casting it and right after you cast it you can probably cast it again which makes you invincible again. What I'm trying to say is that even though brandish might be faster then demo, Demo makes you invincible and is a good way to avoid attacks which is probably why he used such a small amount of pots during the zakum solo. Its the same with Barrage, except barrage has more cooldown time in which you can get hit easier.

No question it's a great pot saver. But what you save in pots, you lose in terms of damage. Much like Boomerrang step.

Just commenting on Rusty's unwillingness to see how Brandish can outdamage Demo

This inspires me a lot =)

Now how about a corsair solo?

No question it's a great pot saver. But what you save in pots, you lose in terms of damage. Much like Boomerrang step.

Just commenting on Rusty's unwillingness to see how Brandish can outdamage Demo

I still think brandish and demo are atleast equal in damage if anything. Attack means a lot more for a buc than a hero, which was why i was saying an apple'd buc could outdmg an apple'd hero. As funding gets higher, and bucs get more attack (attack shoes/cape/higher attack weapon) bucs get more help from those funds than a hero will.

I still think brandish and demo are atleast equal in damage if anything. Attack means a lot more for a buc than a hero, which was why i was saying an apple'd buc could outdmg an apple'd hero. As funding gets higher, and bucs get more attack (attack shoes/cape/higher attack weapon) bucs get more help from those funds than a hero will.

What do you mean ''gets more attack''? Hero can get the same equips you just mentioned,and high weapon attack on their sword. If they're 1h sword,on top of that they can even use a shield with w.attk... Admit defeat,will ya?

What do you mean ''gets more attack''? Hero can get the same equips you just mentioned,and high weapon attack on their sword. If they're 1h sword,on top of that they can even use a shield with w.attk... Admit defeat,will ya?

He means Buccaneers gain more from each point in Attack than Heroes do, much in the same manner that NLs gain more damage from one Attack than other classes, because their base Attack is lower.

What do you mean ''gets more attack''? Hero can get the same equips you just mentioned,and high weapon attack on their sword. If they're 1h sword,on top of that they can even use a shield with w.attk... Admit defeat,will ya?

as dusk said, more attack raises damage more for bucc then for hero. Its simple if you think about it. Attack is somewhat similar to base stats(str, luk, dex) in that the more you have, the less each point matters. If someone had a total of 200 attack, 1 point of attack will improve damage by 0.5%, if someone had 100 attack, 1 point of attack increases by 1 %. Heroes have a lot more attack on weapons, and on shields if they are one handed, then buccs have on knuckles. Since everything else could be the same, Chaos'd pacs, FS, godly attack WGs and apples all help more for buccs. I mean, for anyone to be able to say that demo is close to brandish, they are hitting pretty close damage wise, right? And the hero has more attack. Demo just has better multiplier. The question is does the higher % that demo do, outweigh the difference in range, which is something really hard to calculate, otherwise someone just would have posted it lol.