The thread for Str-less brawlers

If I were you guys, I'd consider maxing double shot, since it'll do more damage than somersault, since you're focusing solely on dex, and it'd probably speed your training quite a bit.

but we needz SK fer teh moobs and the punchy thengy for 2nd job adv

but we needz SK fer teh moobs and the punchy thengy for 2nd job adv

Well hmm... Double Shot seems viable, and you can use SK while having a gun in hand. And uh... you could put 1 Flash Fist? Just throwing ideas out there.

It's a very creative and nice idea you guys got here, and kinda tough one, at that. But whoever can do it, good luck, and props on going through it.

First of yes, we need ff for job adv and i for one am maxing it. And god no, if you put into ds your a moron, no offence. The dmg with it with a gun in hand is fking terrible. We use spears because ss kick is always a stab. Trust me at lvl 18 i do 50-60 dmg per ss kick to 6 enemies. Thats a fk load better then dsing. Trust me ive had a gunslinger. If you attempt to argue with me on this I will ignore you.

having leveled a gunslinger to 43 *lols so fun but kinda out of it now* i can tell you SSK with a gun in hand is EXTREMELY weak...

i might re-start my brawler *lvl 23 atm* and make it str-less =b

this seems like a fun build!

First of yes, we need ff for job adv and i for one am maxing it. And god no, if you put into ds your a moron, no offence. The dmg with it with a gun in hand is fking terrible. We use spears because ss kick is always a stab. Trust me at lvl 18 i do 50-60 dmg per ss kick to 6 enemies. Thats a fk load better then dsing. Trust me ive had a gunslinger. If you attempt to argue with me on this I will ignore you.

I'll reply with your one previous post.

Uhm yeah sandra, you obviosly came into this thread before you read inbombs. We use spears for most of 1st and 2nd job, and bare fists when we start to not use ss kick anymore. And then when the 64 maple weps come out we use use those.
We don't need b.s hate in here okay. Now please escort your self out of this thread.
We play maple for fun. If we have fun on these chars, then let us.
and p.s our avoid destroys shads. And in cpq we still get 500 cp solo at lvl 40, we still pwn most classes in cpq.

It was merely an idea, there's no reason to be an ass about it. Though, it might not be as bad of an idea when you factor in maple weapons when you're comparing it to your damage with yourself when you're using a tuna.

Also, feel free to ignore me, I honestly don't care, clearly you only feel it's ok to think differently when you're the one doing it.

First of yes, we need ff for job adv and i for one am maxing it. And god no, if you put into ds your a moron, no offence. The dmg with it with a gun in hand is fking terrible. We use spears because ss kick is always a stab. Trust me at lvl 18 i do 50-60 dmg per ss kick to 6 enemies. Thats a fk load better then dsing. Trust me ive had a gunslinger. If you attempt to argue with me on this I will ignore you.

You're a Str-less brawler. Your damage will be terrible no matter what you do.

You're a Str-less brawler. Your damage will be terrible no matter what you do.

I bet a lvl 50 strless could get more cp in cpq then your 50 cleric.

having leveled a gunslinger to 43 *lols so fun but kinda out of it now* i can tell you SSK with a gun in hand is EXTREMELY weak...

i might re-start my brawler *lvl 23 atm* and make it str-less =b

this seems like a fun build!

Go ahead man, it's lots of fun. Keep me updated if you do.

I'll reply with your one previous post.



It was merely an idea, there's no reason to be an ass about it. Though, it might not be as bad of an idea when you factor in maple weapons when you're comparing it to your damage with yourself when you're using a tuna.

Also, feel free to ignore me, I honestly don't care, clearly you only feel it's ok to think differently when you're the one doing it.

No it's not that it's the fact that I posted inbombs thread and I posted the build for this and i also posted the thing about spears. Sorry about that but whatever. If people don't take the time to read abit about the subject then what am I to say. And no strless brawler would use a tuna, infact if you can you should never use a pole arm for the stab slash factor involved with ssk. Only reason i used one was because i love my rose. Its hot.

I bet a lvl 50 strless could get more cp in cpq then your 50 cleric.

First off, I doubt that. Although Clerics in general aren't good for CPQ (unless the other team is stupid and mass summons (Master) Chronos) I'm pretty sure that a level 50 luk-less Cleric would still do better in CPQ than a Str-less Brawler. But regardless, that is irrelevant.

You had stated that a pre-brawler putting any points into DS was moronic because of the low damage. But that complaint is only valid if damage is a priority, which it's not for Str-less. Keep in mind, I'm not saying not to go Str-less, if you do and have fun, more power to you. But calling something moronic because of the weak damage seems rather hypocritical in this situation.

Yeah but it does EVEN WORSE damage, and also inbombs strless infighter gets 700-900 cp or so in cpq at 50. So somehow i think yeah a strless would kick a clerics ass. And its just like perma's yes we aknowledge we arent all powerful you dont need to tell us, btu that doesnt mean we cant use wgs and try to be as good as possible under those pretences.

Dude, did you just compare one of the most powerful melee classes in the game to a support class? There's no point in deciding what's going to "make you stronger", because no matter what, you're going to be hitting damage at level 50 that a level 20 Brawler would be able to compare to.

Hell, if anything, you'd be much better off maxing Double Shot because of your unnecessarily high DEX.

I compared A STR-LESS infighter, she said she highly doubted it. Fine, i bet a lvl 50 strless brawler could beat a f/p mage in cpp, better?
Anyways people if you got nothing to to say about us please leave. If you are considering making one or already stay a while and we will chat mkay?

I think I'll say what I'd like to say, since none of what was previously said was biased in any way. If you're going to tell me that your damage with Double Shot would suck when maxed, then you're delusional. In fact, Double Shot would probably be your most powerful attack through your entire STRless adventure.

Uhm we couldnt equip any decent gun, so itd make our dmg terrible, and the fact that at 20 we do like 100 or so with ss kick.(no wg) and thats 100 to 6 monsters if you train at the right spots. DS is like 200 to 1 monster. Dont argue i've played a gs. Dont talk like we havent tried it and or thought it out.
As I said, if you're gunna try to change us because we are infighters not brawlers with ds -facepalm- then leave. And i quit my outlaw to get away form being ranged and the minimum range tyvm.

F/P wizards have no mobbing moves so again it's not exactly a fair comparison. But I don't see the point on getting hung up on what is stronger since it's obviously not the point of a Strless brawler

I compared A STR-LESS infighter, she said she highly doubted it. Fine, i bet a lvl 50 strless brawler could beat a f/p mage in cpp, better?
Anyways people if you got nothing to to say about us please leave. If you are considering making one or already stay a while and we will chat mkay?

I think I'll say what I'd like to say, since none of what was previously said was biased in any way. If you're going to tell me that your damage with Double Shot would suck when maxed, then you're delusional. In fact, Double Shot would probably be your most powerful attack through your entire STRless adventure.

yeah, well it was mainly aimed at her saying we will be weak no matter what. Okay yes we know shut up about it. But yeah we can still try to be the best at what we are and be strong under those circumstances can we not?
Thats all I'm saying.

What is with people hating on alternative builds? The point isn't to actually be a powerful, useful character, nor is it to get a lot of attention. It's just to have fun, and see how high you can crank your avoid up. Honestly, being a high levelled character and doing a lot of damage is a lot more conducive to showing off than making a character with a weird build like this. The same exact discussion happened concerning beginners in another thread, and the thread got closed. Just leave the STRless Brawlers alone and stop telling them they're going to be weak. They know they're going to be weak. So go away.

I wasn't hating on them at all. I just wanted to know what the point was. If it was truly just for fun why even make a thread to draw attention to it? Just make it and have your fun with it. Anyway I wasn't trying to be mean or rude so my apologies if I came off that way.

If it were me, I would expect the hate that would come to characters with strange builds. I would also have fun correcting them and making them look bad.

How hard is it to level with this build?

I think I'll say what I'd like to say, since none of what was previously said was biased in any way. If you're going to tell me that your damage with Double Shot would suck when maxed, then you're delusional. In fact, Double Shot would probably be your most powerful attack through your entire STRless adventure.

The trouble is you're stuck with whatever level 10 gun it is (I think 18 atk?) while with spears you can go common class and get skis with 75-80 atk by 50. 5x the atk makes up for the better dex multiplier generally.

I haven't tried DS on a str-less though so I dunno how much it'll do.

Yeah, I said that Stereo. Then again he might listen to you better. And the att multiplier on spears is amazing with sskick cause its always a stab.

lvl 20 now!!!

got to lvl 15 with a stars and stripes... but at 15, i forgot i was going str-less so i couldn't use the 52 att purse i was planning on using...

so i had to go buy a tuna... but got a 83 att one ^^

i could 1hko an octopus with SSK since lvl 16... and do it 50% of the time at lvl 19

but the tuna's SOOO SLOOOOW
so i got a 52 att fish spear instead

still keeping the tuna for damage dealing tho

and <3 100 accuracy =b

Awesome job man. Im lvling slowly right now because of school and just overall past 2 days i have been riding my mtb. So yeah. Get us some ss and ill post em on 1st page. Just wait till 30 when you get the godly avoid.