2009-02-08, 08:42 PM (This post was last modified: 2009-02-10, 07:35 PM by Kranzorbaken.)
Here is my progress on my str-less brawler. If you have one post it here and show me your progress. There is also a thread on basil.
Props to InBomb. Here's his thread, but lets keep it real on southperry here eh? http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/868737/...enge.html# Also for you lazy people I will quote his paragraph he wrote.
Spoiler
Hi guys, It's me--GunDelHel, better known as InBomb, the creator of the Lukless Str Dit.
Anywho, the great thing about a Lukless Str dit was the sheer stability of having 4/5 Luk--but now, we have Pirates(Brawlers)--another class who class changes with Dex but doesn't have to use it.
So I got to thinking--why not a Strless Dex Brawler? So I started it 2 days ago, worked just a tiny bit on it, not really getting too into it, and hit level 30 last night--so I wanted to throw my pictures up--tell my plan--and get some feedback.
link (Using Barehand + Shield)
link (Using level 30 Aluminum Bat)
Notice my Avoid? It's through the roof! Apparently, Brawler's avoid is 1.6 of their Dex value, so I may have more avoid than Dexless Sins in the long run. xD
And yeah, I know my Luk is 1 above--It was the best roll I could get, Im gonna fix that eventually though.
Anywho, my plan for now is:
Max HP Increase > Max Corkscrew > Max Double Uppercut > Max Backspin Blow > 5 Mastery > Max Booster > Play with the other skills eventually getting 19 mastery
Now--here's where it gets a bit tricky.
There are no Dex Knucklers like there are Str Daggers--so how do we make this work--We use our bare hands and attack shields! The fact is--our speed without weapons (or with a shield) is "Faster". And for some reason, we hit more damage without a weapon than we do with the level 10 knuckler. But eventually--Maple Anniversaries will come out, and we'll scurry to the highest Maple Knuckler. Hence why Mastery is maxed very late (Because it doesnt work barehanded). Booster also doesn't work barehanded--but eventually Maple Knucklers come out and you have to have maxed booster for Speed Infusion/Wind Booster.
Now--until Screw Punch and all over power SK--I'm going to use common equips and SK--hence the baseball bat damage range. Which is pretty nice considering that SK gives a 190% damage increase. Hitting a consistent 220~250 damage is pretty nice. Especially considering that it could be 220~250 damage across 6 enemies--which is 1320~1500 dmg done per SK for people bad at math. Which is worth it if you ask me. Anywho, I'll keep everyone updated on my progress.
Thank you for your time
~GunDelHel
Edit:
I just checked--and I have more avoid than most 7X Dexless Hermits!
My char MadAvoid
LV.11
LV.14
LV.15
At lvl 15 i started going to octos.
LV.16
LV17
LV18
LV.19
LV.20
New equips and huge dmg boost at lvl 20 and 1st point into FF. And yes, i have dash maxed, get over it.
2009-02-08, 08:59 PM (This post was last modified: 2009-02-08, 09:51 PM by Kranzorbaken.)
Link is posted in first post for you and everyone else.
^^^ sweet, imma just use my 1h sword till 20 then use my fish spear.
ill hit 16 tonight and then sleep. I'll post up pics every 5 lvls, but i'll have a ss of every lvl
2009-02-08, 09:56 PM (This post was last modified: 2009-02-09, 03:01 AM by z0mgc00k13.)
^^^ me too i have it on my page xP
then ima switch to my pumpkin spear or my maplemas lights 4 speed
prob my lights 4 spd :O
EDIT : you can also use the fire cracker/valentines heart thingy for exp xP
EDIT 2 : i remembere di put some of my points into INT at maple island for a small MP boost since theres reset x3
Don't see the point of str-less brawlers. 2nd job+ skills all require Knucklers, and without Strength; you can't equip any so it's pretty boring (Somersault kick is pretty much the only skill you'll use).
D3ath Wrote:Don't see the point of str-less brawlers. 2nd job+ skills all require Knucklers, and without Strength; you can't equip any so it's pretty boring (Somersault kick is pretty much the only skill you'll use).
So they'll never get hit but they'll never be able to kill anything either...
Only application I see that as useful for is seduce bait, and methinks shadowers would still be a better choice.
Uhm yeah sandra, you obviosly came into this thread before you read inbombs. We use spears for most of 1st and 2nd job, and bare fists when we start to not use ss kick anymore. And then when the 64 maple weps come out we use use those.
We don't need b.s hate in here okay. Now please escort your self out of this thread.
We play maple for fun. If we have fun on these chars, then let us.
and p.s our avoid destroys shads. And in cpq we still get 500 cp solo at lvl 40, we still pwn most classes in cpq.
Looks like a pretty interesting concept.
Should be one hell of a fun character to play.
Nothing like getting to throw a beat down on monsters with your bare hands!
Thanks, i know kevvl also has a 4x one on here to. Now if he would just get his ass on and post.
And thanks for the support ctatyk, someone who knows a fun factor i like it. Im logging onto maple right now. Wanna hit maybe 30 today.
Kranzorbaken Wrote:Uhm yeah sandra, you obviosly came into this thread before you read inbombs. We use spears for most of 1st and 2nd job, and bare fists when we start to not use ss kick anymore. And then when the 64 maple weps come out we use use those.
We don't need b.s hate in here okay. Now please escort your self out of this thread.
We play maple for fun. If we have fun on these chars, then let us.
and p.s our avoid destroys shads. And in cpq we still get 500 cp solo at lvl 40, we still pwn most classes in cpq.
No b.s. hate here at all. Even with maple weapons your attack is going to fail. My guess with avoid is that with fake included we're pretty much on par but w/e. If you guys have fun with it then good for you. It just seems more like a desperate bid to be different/get attention to me(just like inbomb's other char).
WeeItzSandra Wrote:No b.s. hate here at all. Even with maple weapons your attack is going to fail. My guess with avoid is that with fake included we're pretty much on par but w/e. If you guys have fun with it then good for you. It just seems more like a desperate bid to be different/get attention to me(just like inbomb's other char).
What is with people hating on alternative builds? The point isn't to actually be a powerful, useful character, nor is it to get a lot of attention. It's just to have fun, and see how high you can crank your avoid up. Honestly, being a high levelled character and doing a lot of damage is a lot more conducive to showing off than making a character with a weird build like this. The same exact discussion happened concerning beginners in another thread, and the thread got closed. Just leave the STRless Brawlers alone and stop telling them they're going to be weak. They know they're going to be weak. So go away.
2009-02-09, 10:12 PM (This post was last modified: 2009-02-09, 10:18 PM by Kranzorbaken.)
Thank you dusk, please guys if you have nothing good to say dont say it here. Us permas and alternate builds dont go in dissing you guys trying to get your threads closed. Please nice comments or nothing at all.
And ill throw some numbers out there, brawlers get 1.5 avoid for every dex point. That's 666 total dex and you have 999 avoid. That isn't including the avoid from luk you get from a zhelm or dep/ht pendant.
And 1 luk for dits and sins is what .5 avoid.
Thats 3x the amount of avoid.
Id say if I hit 120 as a str-less infighter ill have 999 avoid at 120 or even below that if i get good dex equips and a zhelm. http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/6606/maple0207rd7.jpg
Thats someone from the basil thread, shes lvl 35 and look at her avoid(387). And her dmg range
If I were you guys, I'd consider maxing double shot, since it'll do more damage than somersault, since you're focusing solely on dex, and it'd probably speed your training quite a bit.