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Flaunt your Damage/Equipment Magicians!
#41
Recently passed Gen30. Took me 900m worth of books to pass it. Rolleyes

My max and min on Skeles:
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Some neutral damage. I've seen as high as 67xxx before but couldn't catch it this time.
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Equips (Nowhere near as godly as Goals Tongue)

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I need about 43 more MATK to 100% OHKO Skeles, so about 8 levels to go (or less if I decide to scroll my wand).
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#42
*steals earrings*

I should put my stuff up on here.
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#43
No point in showing off, you hit max dmg. every time Rolleyes
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#44
Bribery Wrote:Recently passed Gen30. Took me 900m worth of books to pass it. Rolleyes

My max and min on Skeles:
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Some neutral damage. I've seen as high as 67xxx before but couldn't catch it this time.
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Equips (Nowhere near as godly as Goals Tongue)

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I need about 43 more MATK to 100% OHKO Skeles, so about 8 levels to go (or less if I decide to scroll my wand).


Holy pineapple, you shut up Andy. I didn't know you can do 99.5k!

WillDaSnail Wrote:Wow, that's just some godly crap. +127 INT, gah..........one of the godliest lukless mages ive seen. D: *Envies*

Do you by any chance have a HT pendant yet?

Yes, I do lol. Thanks for your comment. I always forget to mention to people I have a 22/22/22/21 HT pendant.
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#45
Fumni Wrote:No point in showing off, you hit max dmg. every time Rolleyes
who?!?!
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#46
SekushiKun Wrote:who?!?!

Enough people on plenty of forums.

Public Service Announcement to Magicians:

Since hitting the damage cap is extremely easy now for hundreds of people, posting pictures of you doing so isn't really amazing anymore. My best recommendation if you want to wow people is to do what Goals did: post a picture of your ultimate damage on elementally-strong monsters to your ultimate. That way, we can tell what your damage would REALLY be like without a damage cap by adding the appropriate multipliers.

In other words (and this is my opinion, though I'm sure many others share it as well), posting a picture of you doing 60k+ damage with an ultimate on an elementally-strong monster would be cooler to see than 99999 on all the Newties at Destroyed Dragon Nest.

P.S.: Hitting 60k+ or whatever on elementally-strong without an Ele wand is especially pro. hint hint wink wink.
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#47
FrozNlite Wrote:Enough people on plenty of forums.

Public Service Announcement to Magicians:

Since hitting the damage cap is extremely easy now for hundreds of people, posting pictures of you doing so isn't really amazing anymore. My best recommendation if you want to wow people is to do what Goals did: post a picture of your ultimate damage on elementally-strong monsters to your ultimate. That way, we can tell what your damage would REALLY be like without a damage cap by adding the appropriate multipliers.

In other words (and this is my opinion, though I'm sure many others share it as well), posting a picture of you doing 60k+ damage with an ultimate on an elementally-strong monster would be cooler to see than 99999 on all the Newties at Destroyed Dragon Nest.

P.S.: Hitting 60k+ or whatever on elementally-strong without an Ele wand is especially pro. hint hint wink wink.

Lead by example hint hint wink wink
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#48
FrozNlite Wrote:Enough people on plenty of forums.

Public Service Announcement to Magicians:

Since hitting the damage cap is extremely easy now for hundreds of people, posting pictures of you doing so isn't really amazing anymore. My best recommendation if you want to wow people is to do what Goals did: post a picture of your ultimate damage on elementally-strong monsters to your ultimate. That way, we can tell what your damage would REALLY be like without a damage cap by adding the appropriate multipliers.

In other words (and this is my opinion, though I'm sure many others share it as well), posting a picture of you doing 60k+ damage with an ultimate on an elementally-strong monster would be cooler to see than 99999 on all the Newties at Destroyed Dragon Nest.

P.S.: Hitting 60k+ or whatever on elementally-strong without an Ele wand is especially pro. hint hint wink wink.

Haha, sounds interesting. I'm glad this thread is still alive! I know for Bishops, it's so easy to hit max damage on Skelegons. 100% 1hitting them is another story though, but still fairly easy to manage by 16X. And who knows how many 16X Bishops are out there... maybe thousands f3?

Anyway, should I add FrozNlite's statement on the first post?
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#49
Kevo Wrote:Anyway, should I add FrozNlite's statement on the first post?

If that means making it a rule, I disagree.

I still think it's impressive to see Mages hitting such high numbers, especially at lower levels. Goals isn't even 16x and he outdamages basically every level 15x Mage and Bishop I've seen.

I don't get why FrozNlite is so against people posting Elemental Wand damage. :f6:
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#50
Bribery Wrote:I don't get why FrozNlite is so against people posting Elemental Wand damage. :f6:

Because a level 15x can hit the damage cap without elemental advantage? >_>
Where's the fun in that?
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#51
Stereo Wrote:Because a level 15x can hit the damage cap without elemental advantage? >_>
Where's the fun in that?

On elementally weak yeah, but I don't see many that can do so on neutrals. Goals has like +37x matk from equips and he doesn't even hit the damage cap on neutrals.

EDIT: AR Dmg Wink

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And from a few levels ago. Yeah, I was godlier back then.
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#52
L> Omesh to pass Gen30 Sad

Represent Scania ~ Top Magician of GMS?

More edit:

To Bribery: What happened to your Corsair Sad ?
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#53
Alright here's my opinion:

What Dan is trying to say is since Ele weapons were out, AM ultimate damage (and their respective side element's damage) went straight up sky high like detonating hydrogen bombs almost overnight due to the major boost they give. Literally no one is posting their "pure" damage (aka using a normal Mage weapon instead), and he's literally pointing out (correct me if im wrong Dan) that people that doesn't have Elemental weapons have a major disadvantage, whether you look at it both ways.

(Exception is for Bishops since they don't even get any crap from Elemental weapons, if they possess one. Maybe a major matk boost compared to other weapons, but nothing else. Literally a very well-equipped Bishop with Gen30/MW20 + really good weapon could hit 99,999 on Skelies very early, depending what "route" [stat-wise] they took.)

Its been like 5-6 months since Ele weapons were released. Literally any rich AM (I apologize for this in advance if it doesn't represent you) could get max Blizzard, MW20, maybe a HT pendant (+1), and a decently scrolled Ele weapon and just nuke away. (Note: It can range depending if that respective AM is low-luk, lukless, etc). More and more AM's can do this now due to the easiness of money-making today in MS, which killed the once-rare achievement of hitting 99,999 on monsters with respective ultimate attacks, whether its normal or elementally-weak monsters. Since nearly everyone is posting their best damage with Ele weapon, its becoming very rare nowadays (unless by request) for someone to post their true damage with their respective attacks, without the major boost of an Elemental weapon.

Hope that clears it up.

Edit: To not contridict myself, I'll post my VERY own damage with and w/o Elemental weapons this weekend. I do possess a 129/9 Poison Staff, but I want to see what I could still do with my antiquated 116/9 Codar. I'll post in these categories (respectively): Poison (weak with Ele staff), Poison (weak with Codar), Poison (normal with Ele weapon), Poison (normal with Codar), Fire (weak with Ele weapon), Fire (weak with Codar), Fire (normal with Ele weapon), Fire (normal with Codar).

Attacks to be used: Fire Arrow, Paralyze (Level 1), Meteo (Level 6). Only my normal (and own buffs) will be used.
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#54
Kevo Wrote:To Bribery: What happened to your Corsair Sad ?

I put it on hold for now. Since I passed Gen30 on my Bishop, I decided to train it to level 175 at least, maybe even 200 some day.


As for Elemental Weapons, I don't see why people who are interested in 'pure' damage can't just divide those numbers by 1.25 or 1.10 depending on what wand is equipped. I've yet to see any Arch Mage post doing perfect 99,999 on neutrals. I've never seen one hit damage cap 100% of the time on neutrals except really high levels, like late 18x-19x.

If making money is so easy, then there really shouldn't be a problem for people to get one, should there? Well, it isn't so easy to get one. Simply having an EWand is an accomplishment in itself, thus I don't see what's wrong with wanting to flaunt that damage.
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#55
Grats on passing Gen30. 900mil isn't cheap... I failed Gen30 once when it was 1b. It was free but I was sad for days Sad. I can't imagine how you feel about it. *Must mention that GenesisPro is the King of Failing Genesis 30. 6 and still counting f3. Go pass it already~*

I have seen some Arch Mages hitting max damage on Neutrals on my server at 15X, so perhaps it's more common than you may believe. As for constant max damage, I think infinity312 (?) can although he's level 200.

As for money for Ewand, some people can get lucky. For instance, I bought a 148/3 Fire Wand for 600m, and scrolled it to 160/9. My I/L buddy bought a 149 magic Ice Wand for 500m and scrolled it to 161/6. More examples would be that person that posted in the Trading Deals thread who got a Fire Wand for 300. It's definitely possible to get an Element Wand for cheap. On the other hand, it is time consuming to make money and of course it is an accomplishment to obtain an Element Wand. My BL knows how crazy I went when I got mine scrolled =p. I had to do daily HT and Zak to make the money I did and now doing some merchanting (it blows my mind how people can stand doing it) because of certain complications with the HT Cave.

Besides that however, there's also the level 70 Elemental Wands, that if scrolled decently are about 20-30 magic off a decently scrolled level 130 Elemental Wand while producing the same boost in the attacks of Arch Mages / Mages.
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#56
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FrozNlite I can do 60k on ice resist, as I saw one on zak arm yesterday, will get that kind of screenshot once the game is up and running. As for doing 60k on ice resist without an elemental wand, good luck finding a single mage, as it would require lvl 200 + echo and probably apple and still here I hardly belive a mage could achive such dammage with a doomsday staff? Without elemental wand I would of need lvl 200 + echo to 100% 1hit the big skele.
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#57
Kevo Wrote:L> Omesh to pass Gen30 Sad

Represent Scania ~ Top Magician of GMS?

More edit:

To Bribery: What happened to your Corsair Sad ?

Going to buy a book this weekend Smile hopefully it passes lucky #7 !

Also Supp3r what was your magic atk to hit 99999 I didn't know that was even possible O.O must have changed recently
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#58
It's when I lvl up and got from 1460 to 1465 matk that i start to do only max dammage.

Bishop can also do that on neutral, but I only saw this once with bish lvl 200 with echo and swiss cheese.
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#59
The Ice Dude Wrote:FrozNlite I can do 60k on ice resist, as I saw one on zak arm yesterday, will get that kind of screenshot once the game is up and running. As for doing 60k on ice resist without an elemental wand, good luck finding a single mage, as it would require lvl 200 + echo and probably apple and still here I hardly belive a mage could achive such dammage with a doomsday staff? Without elemental wand I would of need lvl 200 + echo to 100% 1hit the big skele.

Wow, thats insane...

Tymen.
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#60
Wow lots of posts. Let me clarify myself, and before I start I apologize if it seems very disorganized; instead of replying to everyone's posts I'm just going to respond to several comments brought up, separating each one with spaces. Here goes.

First off, I can't hit 60k+ on Elementally weak. At 170, I can do Goals' damage on fire-strong with a Poison Wand with Meteor Shower (43-44ks ish I've seen at Pap). So sorry, I can't lead by example. I just meant it would be cool to see something like that, which is why when Goals started his post with that, I was impressed. Neither SW nor SP on ANY damage flaunting thread has ever had a person post that damage, since everyone's busy proving how great they are for hitting the damage cap.

Bribery, I don't think he meant as a rule, but as a suggestion. Take it as you will, but personally I could care less where it's reposted. I'll post my opinions on a forum and people can quote me with them as they wish, as do most people who post on forums/blogs.

I'm not against posting Elemental Wand damage, I'm against posting straight 99999's and just leaving it there. Great, you're a 16x+ ArchMage with an Ice/Fire wand and can hit the damage cap I'm ohsoimpressed.

This segways into what Will was saying. No, I'm not against Elemental Wands for any reason other than the fact that they greatly skew damage so people think, at a first glance, that people are amazingly godly and they should bow before them, when really their damage isn't always the most unparalleled on the block. For example, I can hit the damage cap 100% of the time on fire-weak with a Poison Wand. Big whoop, right? But I can also hit 88ks at Skeles with the Poison Wand. When borrowing my friend's fire wand, my range on neutral was 83k-99999, hitting the damage cap at least 10-25% of the time. Now THAT tells you something about my other equips. When was the last time you saw an I/L hitting the damage cap 100% of the time at Skeles with a Lightning Wand? I can tell you I check damage threads every day, and I've never seen a screenie like that. All I see, day in and day out, are I/Ls posting damage cap screenies - with Ice Wands - or Bishops posting damage cap screenies - on Holy-weak.

Sure, we can divide the damage by the appropriate multipliers, but that raises two issues: (1) because 99999 is a CAP, applying multipliers would probably lower the damage from what people could actually do considering without elemental bonuses people could be hitting more than whatever 99999 divided by 1.25 is, and (2) because who is really going to spend the time skimming a thread while looking at screenies to sit and recalculate "true" damage? The internet has made our society so ADD and fast paced that once we see a screenshot for 10 seconds, we're done and on to the next picture or thread, and thus no one will waste the time calculating damage. What you're asking for is more utopian than simply asking to see damage without skewing multipliers.

Also Bribery, you said you have yet to see an I/L hit the damage cap on neutrals. Supp3rGirl just posted, and on the first page of this thread there's a picture of TruffleLock hitting the damage cap with an Ice Wand at newties. At level 175. And when I asked him to do a picture with a Lightning Wand, he went a step further to wow me with a picture using a weapon attack weapon with no matk or INT. And he was hitting 72ks. Now that's REALLY good damage, and tells a lot about your equips aside from an elemental wand.

Finally, before Bishops go "wtphax" at AMs hitting the damage cap at Skeles: Genesis is bugged so that you can only hit 99,6xx tops there, while hitting the damage cap anywhere else. I don't know why that is, but if you need ss proof I've got plenty of friends who can help.

Sorry for the wall of text, and I hope that helps clarify things.
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