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how much damage does a crog do to a person with a zhelm? just wondering if i can solo them on the ships back and forth... I have 4.3k hp...

um, if you're 13x, i think you'd be able to easily solo it.


try it? :3 its only 1%

Definitely less than 4.3k. If you have that much HP, you're in good shape. It hit me for over 4k with Zhelm but I'm 100% sure it doesn't do over 4.3k. I killed a few without having that much HP.

I'm guessing if i can survive ergoth, i can survive a crog. So next time, i'll try to solo xD

With clean HT necklace, Zhelm and normal armor, It never does over 3.8k to me.

If you do it right, they should never hit you at all... I've soloed 2 Crogs once and I only have 3k hp :-P It's all about abusing the teleporter and puppet.

How is this build for a BM? I won't be able to afford SE30 for a while.

120. 2 SE, 1 H
121. 5 SE
122. 8 SE
123. 11 SE
124. 14 SE
125. 17 SE
126. 20 SE
127. 1 DB, 1 BE, 2 H
128. 5 H
129. 8 H
130. 11 H

How is this build for a BM? I won't be able to afford SE30 for a while.

120. 2 SE, 1 H
121. 5 SE
122. 8 SE
123. 11 SE
124. 14 SE
125. 17 SE
126. 20 SE
127. 1 DB, 1 BE, 2 H
128. 5 H
129. 8 H
130. 11 H

Looks fine to me 0_o

But i went off and did my own thing cause i wanted as many skills to mess around with as possible, hence my 2SE and 1 other skill build xD

Takes a little longer, but you get more stuff (i.e. 2 se, 1 phoenix or 2SE, 1 mastery)

I would agree with 1 Phoenix because it's fun to play around with and it doesn't cost a summoning rock when you're killing stuff that don't require stuff.

Also, add 1 DB and 1 BE earlier (levels 121-123).

Edit: Yay! I am now HELIUM!

121 since september o.o that's i think the typical start for a BM... 2 SE, 1 H, then 5 SE ... because it's so short... need constant recast... but IF EVER i level up, i'm getting 1 DB, 1 phoenix and 1 SE *so it lasts 1 min*

but question is: how much more beneficial is 1 in BE?

121 since september o.o that's i think the typical start for a BM... 2 SE, 1 H, then 5 SE ... because it's so short... need constant recast... but IF EVER i level up, i'm getting 1 DB, 1 phoenix and 1 SE *so it lasts 1 min*

but question is: how much more beneficial is 1 in BE?

Lots? Ionno 5% mastery raise damage a fair bit more in consistency...

I'm no math wiz, so you'd be better off learning from someone else...

i'm still not completely sure on how the SE% is calculated...
with that known... i could calculate how much "better" it would be but ... not now >.>

like... hurrican'es 51% damage + reg crit = 151%... + lvl 6 SE?

ok so to make long things short... if SE added 100% over the % it claimed *16% for lvl 6*
it seems 5% more mastery gives ~2.75% boost in average damage...

so... i think it IS worth it to get that extra point into BE...

but now... DB to skip? i kinda need it all over the place.. and it seem really helpful...
phoenix? fun to have another summon
1% of SE? might as well? 50 secs isn't THAT bad afterall...

i don't know!!

Whats the minimum HP formula for archers more specifically bowmasters. Yes I said hp xD

Whats the minimum HP formula for archers more specifically bowmasters. Yes I said hp xD

http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=26

Check that thread.

http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=26

Check that thread.

Thx a lot

Which would be more useful for a bowmaster to get first: max Phoenix, or 6-hit DB?

get phoenix, you dont need more than lv 1 db since Bm dont mob. and the red bird will help you at bossing for dps and anego for the mobs. also it trows in some dmg when you train. db is more for MM that want to mob than for BM that pick em 1 at a time. why piss off 6 monsters when 3 is enough?

The above is true. You could also get Phoenix to 21 for the second noticeable boost, get whatever else you want, then finish it off later, which is what I did. 20->21 is about 1000 additional damage and all levels after that are about 100 more damage.

I agree with this. Hell, I don't even use DB at all anymore, whereas I have Phoenix out nearly all the time. Concentrate is also something you should get before DB.

Is there any way to dismiss Phoenix (or Silver Hawk, or the Marksman equivalents for that matter) once summoned?

Thank you for all of your replies.

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