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"Beyond" - 5th job second skill set
Shads Wrote:Idk anything about the pq but i saw this happen
[video=youtube;XOY_rvUMcwc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOY_rvUMcwc[/video]

[video=youtube;GAmtRS_qlyA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAmtRS_qlyA[/video]

Yeeeep.. how many coins is that for this I/L?
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TheBlackMage Wrote:Nice meme, 500 coins is not possible without PC Bang and I doubt any version will get that besides TMS.
But who knows, the main point would be;
300 coins per day is also neigh impossible for 99.9% of the population.
For clarity sake I can get only to floor 52 and clear it within 25 seconds, now I have high range and I hit over 200m inside but I am a foreign lumi, I know some broken ass classes like aran with less funding than me could get up to floor 70~80 (before they made it FAR more difficult) so it is class dependent.
I get 6 symbols per day.
your typical character would get like what? 2? 3? after 2x ends+harder seriously just buy drop rate gear everybody and don't count on this piece of pomegranate content.

And they also made the pineappleing PQ far harder.
I am still salty over it.

[COLOR="#0000FF"]Rolleyes

what's the mechanics of the PQ / what's the rewards system like
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fodjgngf Wrote:[video=youtube;GAmtRS_qlyA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAmtRS_qlyA[/video]

Yeeeep.. how many coins is that for this I/L?

Wow, i saw a Blaze Wizard using her teleport to go to stage 300, she was mobbing the mobs to the corner out of the box, he got 33 symbols, he can have 99 in one day...
Here: [video=youtube;0S9Z_JPn6IM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S9Z_JPn6IM[/video]
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Counting on those videos is a horrible idea LOL.
You'd need to be mega funded and it's no longer possible to do that.
Basically you'd get too many points above 100+ (300 points) and you could abuse those skills on the tactics board, now it's no longer possible and it wouldn't work even if you still got 300 points per stage clear due to the changes.

Because of those scum bags they made the PQ WAY harder.
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TheBlackMage Wrote:Counting on those videos is a horrible idea LOL.
You'd need to be mega funded and it's no longer possible to do that.
Basically you'd get too many points above 100+ (300 points) and you could abuse those skills on the tactics board, now it's no longer possible and it wouldn't work even if you still got 300 points per stage clear due to the changes.

Because of those scum bags they made the PQ WAY harder.

holycow Wrote:[COLOR="#0000FF"]Rolleyes

what's the mechanics of the PQ / what's the rewards system like
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teach us s-s-senpai
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holycow Wrote:teach us s-s-senpai

Just kill purple gramophones asap and try going up I guess.
Do so 3 times, that's really all.
Talk to the top 5 runners in town to get daily 27~35 coins from them combined.
Wait for reset.

Don't even try doing what that FW did, protecting all 3 areas that are yellow and leaving 2 purple as that longer works, It used to be so easy sigh.
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TheBlackMage Wrote:Just kill purple gramophones asap and try going up I guess.
Do so 3 times, that's really all.
Talk to the top 5 runners in town to get daily 27~35 coins from them combined.
Wait for reset.

Don't even try doing what that FW did, protecting all 3 areas that are yellow and leaving 2 purple as that longer works, It used to be so easy sigh.
We can expect the twice the dificulty for the Arcana symbol quest or whatever level it up.Tongue, i wonder if there will be one it will be better than others or like the others.
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We could get the easy version first. Its GMS anyways.

TheBlackMage Wrote:Counting on those videos is a horrible idea LOL.
You'd need to be mega funded and it's no longer possible to do that.
Basically you'd get too many points above 100+ (300 points) and you could abuse those skills on the tactics board, now it's no longer possible and it wouldn't work even if you still got 300 points per stage clear due to the changes.

Because of those scum bags they made the PQ WAY harder.

Whats the difference though? I mean In case we get that thing before 2nd beyond patch I wouldnt mind getting as many coins as I could if its gonna be horrible later on. How do you get those points to spam?
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Shion Wrote:We could get the easy version first. Its GMS anyways.



Whats the difference though? I mean In case we get that thing before 2nd beyond patch I wouldnt mind getting as many coins as I could if its gonna be horrible later on. How do you get those points to spam?

I think there's a misconception here, getting to F500+ had no benefit as the 500 coin limit is hard capped, nexon threw a fit about it because people could just skip PC bang (PC bang = 2 extra entries) by going to F200+, let's say you got to F999 you'd only get 500 coins from that run, it's probably gonna be 300 as there is no pc bang in GMS but who knows.
In theory if you could get to F250 in one run during the event it would be the be best option.
2 weeks of 2x coins does jack pomegranate overall, especially for those who can afford drop rate gear, which is why it doesn't even matter.

If you can get to floor 100/50 during 2x (300 coins per day) you already won (300 coins max for non pc bang users which is what nexon intended butlol, who knows what will GMS do but you get the point).

You abuse it by going to floor 100+ then every run is like 400 points towards the board (4000 is(was) the limit, 3000 now) iirc and you can(could) abuse certain skills, I don't remember what skills were used anymore but that FW video showcases it quite well.

Sure even 5 symbols per day is better than nothing or hunting mobs for hours but it's still trash and nexon should feel bad.

The funny thing is some godly funded monsters can get to F200 even nowadays.
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TheBlackMage Wrote:I think there's a misconception here, getting to F500+ had no benefit as the 500 coin limit is hard capped, nexon threw a fit about it because people could just skip PC bang (PC bang = 2 extra entries) by going to F200+, let's say you got to F999 you'd only get 500 coins from that run, it's probably gonna be 300 as there is no pc bang in GMS but who knows.
In theory if you could get to F250 in one run during the event it would be the be best option.
2 weeks of 2x coins does jack pomegranate overall, especially for those who can afford drop rate gear, which is why it doesn't even matter.

If you can get to floor 100/50 during 2x (300 coins per day) you already won (300 coins max for non pc bang users which is what nexon intended butlol, who knows what will GMS do but you get the point).

You abuse it by going to floor 100+ then every run is like 400 points towards the board (4000 is(was) the limit, 3000 now) iirc and you can(could) abuse certain skills, I don't remember what skills were used anymore but that FW video showcases it quite well.

Sure even 5 symbols per day is better than nothing or hunting mobs for hours but it's still trash and nexon should feel bad.

The funny thing is some godly funded monsters can get to F200 even nowadays.

Really weird for me, i expected to each reagion that you go, it's faster to level up the symbol, i expected maybe 20 symbols a day of lachenl....maybe they expect for you to train hours in lachenl so you get symbols?:f6:
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Why are you guys in such a rush to level your symbols anyway?
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byakugan Wrote:Why are you guys in such a rush to level your symbols anyway?

Most people tend to rush the contents of the game, specially after seeying the pros with max stuff, i see my friends desperately to farm nodestones and frutrated when they don't drop much(some of em have good drop rate), even tought the content is something for months and months to even years of upgrade.

The only weird/frustrating thing is how they let the strong people who can buy nx enjoy more this content than others, unlike chu chu PQ that at least people have a real chance of doing hard mode PQ and getting more symbols(doing normal everyday will get you to close to 200arcane force in less than 3 weeks i guess), vanishing road give 8 and seens that most people can't even get half in this new PQ.
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byakugan Wrote:Why are you guys in such a rush to level your symbols anyway?

[COLOR="#0000FF"]Because it becomes a chore to keep doing dailies.
Higher arcane force = easier to 1hko mobs with the 1.5x damage boost = easier to train anyway[/COLOR]
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byakugan Wrote:Why are you guys in such a rush to level your symbols anyway?

I wanna do my full dmg on Lucid so Im usefull for my squad, and dont have much time to grind everyday. And with these 2x lag events plus my normal internet lag. I feel banned from game on weekends.
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Hey anyone know what %damage marksman skill have? I saw on @HighOnMushrooms blog that is 1200% at lv25, but @TheBlackMage sayed they nerfed to 1000%, so they didn't nerf it?:f6:
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Ivangold Wrote:Hey anyone know what %damage marksman skill have? I saw on @HighOnMushrooms blog that is 1200% at lv25, but @TheBlackMage sayed they nerfed to 1000%, so they didn't nerf it?:f6:

1200%
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Arcana is 225.
That's both surprising and isn't.
I'll take a wild guess and say that 360 AF mobs are still king.
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Kinda correct if the layouts in arcana are bad;
288M hp for that (specific mob though) much exp is fairly good if you can't one shoot 360 AF mobs.
360 AF mobs are 504M hp and 422k exp, 9k difference between the mobs on the base level.
List of mobs here
http://www.insoya.com/bbs/zboard.php?id=...no=1200090
Honestly it's kind of the same thing, but these mobs look awesome, can't wait to leave lacheln got sick of how it looks TBH.
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TheBlackMage Wrote:Arcana is 225.
I'm honestly really surprised
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Google translated patch notes:
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Arcana Storyline:
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World maps:
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Assortment of Arcana maps:

Also, we are getting at least 2 more Arcane River areas, it seems:
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Cruz is the name of a new boss and potentially the silence girl.
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[COLOR="#0000FF"]Easy mode Lucid

[video=youtube;W4lXLGL0BJs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4lXLGL0BJs[/video][/COLOR]
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