2014-11-28, 10:31 AM
What will happen to Gellimer NPC at Edelstein mine?
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KMST is return. With Lotus, and new 160 equipment
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2014-11-28, 10:39 AM
idoS3 Wrote:What will happen to Gellimer NPC at Edelstein mine? A clone... Considering you can still see Velderoth NPC (On non nova characters) even when you are deep into the Tyrant Castle...
2014-11-28, 10:59 AM
FenixR Wrote:A clone... Considering you can still see Velderoth NPC (On non nova characters) even when you are deep into the Tyrant Castle... So, considering Suu has already died and Black Heaven airship has been destroyed in terms of storyline, the Suu we will be fighting for lvl 160 eqs is also an illusion/clone now?
2014-11-28, 11:08 AM
Pythagoras Wrote:So, considering Suu has already died and Black Heaven airship has been destroyed in terms of storyline, the Suu we will be fighting for lvl 160 eqs is also an illusion/clone now? "You may have stopped him now, but since his soul is binded/contracted to the black mage it will return until the black mage is defeated", Some crap like that said the NPC in Von Leon when i finished the quest. I guess its the same with Magnus, Suu, Etc.
2014-11-28, 11:37 AM
Pythagoras Wrote:Your character is died/poisoned to death by Gelimer (?) after being rescued by Orca and Athena from Black Heaven, fortunately, Cygnus manages to revive you with her skill. Orca doesn't escape from destroying Black Heaven airship and choose to die with Suu. Francis fails to advise Orca and dies as well (the saddest part of the storyline). No, they're not dead, they just leave Black Heaven off screen. You can talk to Orca afterwards and she'll ask who you like better between her and Helena (and based on your choice you'll get a mount). Then there's an extra story part at the end where she and Francis go to Guwaru because she needs her power back to fight the Black Mage.
2014-11-28, 11:41 AM
Oh good. Orca and Francis aren't dead. They are like the only 2 NPC's in maple I actually like.
Pythagoras Wrote:Orca doesn't escape from destroying Black Heaven airship and choose to die with Suu. Francis fails to advise Orca and dies as well (the saddest part of the storyline). Orca was on her way to the forest to meet Guwaru. Anyway, Francis keeps her company, but asks why she is here to find an ‘old man’. Guwaru suddenly speaks up and says that he knew Orca would someday come and visit him, but also notes that it is forbidden for a spirit to be in a human body. Francis is cautious and thinks it’s a monster, but Orca responds by saying not to worry since this ‘old man’ is the king of the spirits. Guwaru addresses Orca as: Female Spirit of Darkness, Orca. Suu (Lotus) is the Male Spirit of Darkness. In the end, Orca ends up needing power, hoping Guwaru can help her. She doesn’t want the power that the Black Mage gave her, but the real power of the spirit of darkness. In case you didn’t know, Orca and Suu were originally spirits and were gifted by the White Mage to have a human body.
You know, not trying to poop on Black Heaven one bit, I consider is one of the best updates MS has got. The art, the music, the gameplay, the story, its all really good...
...But I can't help but being bothered by the fact that, at what can be considered the start of Black Heaven, when Orchid thinks Lotus has been revived she is all like "now we can finally rule over all these worms as we are meant to be", and in the end of the story everything is like:
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tl;dr: Orchid was a bastard, a barstard trying to reunite with her long beloved brother but still one, yet Black Heaven sets her as some kind of martyr we gotta save and help... just because she is cute ![]() ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now about the next BlockBuster and Demian: Tynerum is canon right? Well, this might finally be the freaking time Nexon Korea takes Tynerum, all of Crimsonwood Keep and phantom forest with it and raises it back to the glory it deserves
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2014-11-28, 10:36 PM
Was this considered the Tier 1 content that I vaguely remember on the timeline?
2014-11-28, 10:54 PM
Chilly Wrote:Was this considered the Tier 1 content that I vaguely remember on the timeline? I think so. They were saying that the story was going to be expanded, and it was. Underwhelming? Perhaps. But it's something.
2014-11-29, 02:32 AM
With black heaven design and things, it feel like playing Metal Slug on boss fight.
2014-11-30, 02:23 AM
FenixR Wrote:"You may have stopped him now, but since his soul is binded/contracted to the black mage it will return until the black mage is defeated", Some crap like that said the NPC in Von Leon when i finished the quest. I guess its the same with Magnus, Suu, Etc.That's pretty doubtable, since Suu is dead now according to the lore. I think it's not related to the story in any ways. :x
2014-11-30, 04:37 AM
Ironical Wrote:That's pretty doubtable, since Suu is dead now according to the lore. I think it's not related to the story in any ways. :x Whether Suu is dead or not is still a mystery imo. Can a spirit "die" in any way? He is just dead in the body that is not belong to him. :f6:
2014-11-30, 07:44 AM
Pythagoras Wrote:Whether Suu is dead or not is still a mystery imo. Can a spirit "die" in any way? He is just dead in the body that is not belong to him. :f6:Well, perhaps the penalty for getting the body was losing immortality? "Aaneyong, Suu" Orca said as a farewell when Black Heaven was about to fall down. т___т
2014-11-30, 10:39 PM
(This post was last modified: 2014-12-01, 03:05 AM by Pythagoras.)
Ironical Wrote:Well, perhaps the penalty for getting the body was losing immortality? "Aaneyong, Suu" Orca said as a farewell when Black Heaven was about to fall down. т___т Hopefully, they can give us more info about Suu's back story in the upcoming Evolving World update in Shining Star update as well as Black Heaven. (I haven't spoiled myself watching every Black Heaven acts recorded by Max, so please do correct me if there is any). There are many questions about him like: - Why are his body and soul always separated? Is this how he do his dirty jobs as a Black Wing Commander or he is not happy with the body gifted by White Mage to him? (I always thought soul = spirit, is this true?) I had ss-ed down some interesting chat when I did the storyline quests on my Phantom: ![]() ![]() - Since when his body is being enclosed in the fluid container? Is this done by his will or forced by Gelimer (well, Gelimer is an evil pineapple, but can a mere Black Wing scientist force him to do so?)? Also, when is he finally stopped roaming around with his soul and go back to his body? During the Evolving World incident, we all knew that Gelimer betrayed Orca and used Suu to attack Orca. Are Suu's both body and soul being controlled by Gelimer or his soul is still freed somewhere? Similarly, in the final chapter of Black Heaven, the OP Suu (enclosed in the core again) that attacks us is the real Suu (body + soul with the power of Black Mage) or the Suu modified by the evil Gelimer (body only as puppet)? - In the Demon Slayer's storyline at Time Temple on lvl 140 (before they introduced Damian), Orca has claimed something: ![]() ![]() Yeah, we need to know what had happened to Suu during that period of time which separated them for years until the final chapter of Black Heaven. The only time they were being together (and they need to be together to unleash their full power) is when they killed Aria, which was hundreds of years ago...wow :f6:
2014-12-01, 10:38 AM
Eventhough story is not a main part of the game for MOST people, it's so deep and yet leaves a lot of things to add up by yourself. :I
"- Why are his body and soul always separated? Is this how he do his dirty jobs as a Black Wing Commander or he is not happy with the body gifted by White Mage to him? (I always thought soul = spirit, is this true?) I had ss-ed down some interesting chat when I did the storyline quests on my Phantom: Most likely the soul is active only when the body is sleeping (hibernating in a test tube) or being mind-controlled. And it seems like the soul and spirit are kind of the same thing since all of the traits of two innocent spirits, which were Orca and Suu were just implanted into the bodies. But after that... "After Lotus received his body, he became brutal and violent." Here it is but it's FULL of spoilers. "- Since when his body is being enclosed in the fluid container? Is this done by his will or forced by Gelimer (well, Gelimer is an evil pineapple, but can a mere Black Wing scientist force him to do so?)? Also, when is he finally stopped roaming around with his soul and go back to his body? During the Evolving World incident, we all knew that Gelimer betrayed Orca and used Suu to attack Orca. Are Suu's both body and soul being controlled by Gelimer or his soul is still freed somewhere? Similarly, in the final chapter of Black Heaven, the OP Suu (enclosed in the core again) that attacks us is the real Suu (body + soul with the power of Black Mage) or the Suu modified by the evil Gelimer (body only as puppet)?" Since his defeat in the battle with Phantom, I'm sure. The whole test tube thing was designed to awaken Suu, but later was used as an ultimate weapon in Gelimer's pocket. Highly doubt Gelimer would be able to control the soul. The body is being used as a weapon/power plant though. The real Suu is shown after defeating the modified puppet. And that threat to track down and finish the job... wow, that's somewhat scary. xD Anyway, here is how I understand the whole Orca and Suu plot. Pretty incompete, most likely. But I ADORE this kind of content. Blockbusters is what really makes Maple more interesting and exciting experience. :"3
2014-12-02, 01:04 AM
(This post was last modified: 2014-12-02, 04:54 AM by Pythagoras.)
Ironical Wrote:Since his defeat in the battle with Phantom, I'm sure. The whole test tube thing was designed to awaken Suu, but later was used as an ultimate weapon in Gelimer's pocket. Consequence of roaming too much with his soul until he can't awake his own body? :f6: Totally forgot THERE WAS a battle between Phantom and Suu before the heroes faced the Black Mage. Well, in Phantom storyline, Suu is pretty much an annoying cockroach that irritates Phantom by possessing many people's body. "After Lotus received his body, he became brutal and violent." This line sounds kinda weird tho, is he himself (being an innocent spirit of darkness of course, but he seems to be more evil than Orca, judging from the look of spirits) doesn't want to be brutal and violent so he just keep leaving his body? I wonder if he enjoyed to be brutal and violent (well, the only violent act he had done was killing Aria
2014-12-02, 02:52 AM
Pythagoras Wrote:Consequence of roaming too much with his soul until he can't awake his own body? :f6: Gelimer doesn't care about the Black Mage at all, he only joined the Black Wings as a means to his true plan
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2014-12-02, 03:16 AM
Hmm, I thought the reason he was floating around was because he was something like half dead after getting stomped by Phantom all those years ago, so his body was so badly damaged he could no longer inhabit it(http://maplf.tumblr.com/post/81574526673...ebtoon-ch3), which is why Orchid hired Gelimer to awaken him(evolving world cutscenes) and Gelimer accepted in order to further his own agenda. Sort of makes sense considering how Phantom says something about finalizing his revenge when he comes across Suu's body in the container.
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