#Gamergate

I can still disagree with GamerGate as a movement. I'm not the one making it about Zoe/Anita aside from saying that the police report thing was wrong.

I can still disagree with GamerGate as a movement. I'm not the one making it about Zoe/Anita aside from saying that the police report thing was wrong.

Since you didn't take the time to outline why I'm just going to assume you're trying to say "I dislike gamergate just cus".

Also, it wasn't but you're welcome to provide any evidence otherwise. Since you know, the bomb threat, which is kind of FBI territory is what every frekin news article was referring too, when the pertaining question was one she claimed she filed in August, which she didn't.

Since you didn't take the time to outline why I'm just going to assume you're trying to say "I dislike gamergate just cus".

Also, it wasn't but you're welcome to provide any evidence otherwise. Since you know, the bomb threat, which is kind of FBI territory is what every frekin news article was referring too, when the pertaining question was one she claimed she filed in August, which she didn't.

I wasn't responding to say why. I was responding to say that being an pimento to Stereo wasn't accomplishing anything.

And she did file it. Milo corrected himself shortly thereafter saying he was wrong, and that the FBI were handling it with the IGDA. A 2 second google search could give you that information. You've backpedaled on this twice now. "I wasn't talking about this one I was talking about the one in March." "I wasn't talking about the bomb threat in March I was talking about the one in August"

I wasn't responding to say why. I was responding to say that being an pimento to Stereo wasn't accomplishing anything.

Who is being one to Stereo besides the clear feminist? The moderator didn't come in until one person posted, go take it up with them.

And she did file it. Milo corrected himself shortly thereafter saying he was wrong, and that the FBI were handling it with the IGDA. A 2 second google search could give you that information. You've backpedaled on this twice now. "I wasn't talking about this one I was talking about the one in March." "I wasn't talking about the bomb threat in March I was talking about the one in August"

lol. Anita tweeted that she filed an additional police report about the death threats in August, claiming she also had to move out because of it. Milo said that she didn't at all, which the officer confirmed. However the officer was looking for the reports in august since thats what she was tweeting. Further research found that the bomb threat made in march (HEY LOOK, WHEN DID GAMERGATE START? LOL).

Probably should actually read the 2 second google search, or learn what backpeddling actually means.

The officer didn't find any reports because the reports were filed with the FBI. "They don't have records of calls made in August, which may or may not be because the case was handed off to federal agencies"

I don't know what you're reading here.

Edit: Are you only reading the initial report from Milo, and not the correction made a day later...?

The officer didn't find any reports because the reports were filed with the FBI. "They don't have records of calls made in August, which may or may not be because the case was handed off to federal agencies"

I don't know what you're reading here.

Edit: Are you only reading the initial report from Milo, and not the correction made a day later...?

..As someone who actually works with the law, that's not how it works. The reports were forwarded to the FBI because it's a bomb threat, not regarding anything august related.

On August 27, Sarkeesian wrote on Twitter that she had contacted the police after receiving threats directed at both her and her family. She later tweeted a picture of threats directed at them. On September 11, a Breitbartwriter published on twitter an email he had received from San Francisco Police Department spokesperson Albie Esparza about whether Sarkeesian had filed a police report. Esparza responded, saying he was unable to find information about it. However, one day later the writer tweeted a correction, saying he had heard back from the police department and that Esparza said the FBI is handling the case. Esparza has confirmed the same to Polygon.Esparza said Sarkeesian filed a report with the SFPD, who then passed the information on to the FBI, who is now the primary agency investigating the claims.

??????

You're confusing two different stories now.

Also, for reference, Milo hastily reporting on a story he didn't have all the information for the sole purpose of furthering his agenda and gaining attention is exactly the kind of journalistic integrity that needs to be fixed.

Even harassed female dev agrees that despite all the noise some morons are making there is indeed an issue with journalism.
http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/segment...43d9000be8

??????

You're confusing two different stories now.

Also, for reference, Milo hastily reporting on a story he didn't have all the information for the sole purpose of furthering his agenda and gaining attention is exactly the kind of journalistic integrity that needs to be fixed.

http://www.staresattheworld.com/2014/09/...gamergate/

There is also a clear distinguish between an FBI report and a local police report. It was clearly the bomb threat as again, FBI jurisidiction, was forwarded to them from the local police department.

Uh milo had a sourced, asked, and the source was mistaken, that's not bad journalism, the hell kind of comparison is that.

That entire article is just speculation about possibilities....
The quote taken at the bottom of the article is from their interview the week prior (September 11th) BEFORE Esparza found that the case was forwarded to the FBI.

Contacting one person and getting one response without further information and reporting on it as fact is hasty reporting.

That entire article is just speculation about possibilities....
The quote taken at the bottom of the article is from their interview the week prior (September 11th) BEFORE Esparza found that the case was forwarded to the FBI.

You tried to tell me that the FBI came in and took the case, that's why it wasn't reflected on the police department. Dude, I work with field enforcement all the time, frmo the FBI/CIA/Local state authorities, it's part of my day job. When you open a case for investigation, there is a frekin file on standby regarding it. The moment the the fed's have to get involved, the entire folder/info is sent to them, it's no longer in their database. The correction wasn't she filed a report in august, it was she filed a report regarding a bomb threat back in march.

So again, not bad reporting.

Why are you against gamergate again?

Contacting one person and getting one response without further information and reporting on it as fact is hasty reporting.

lol. Not when the source works for the goddamn department. It was out of the horses mouth, and he was mistaken based on the tweet, not on what milo was asking. What you're suggesting would be if he interviewed someone off the street.

"San Francisco police public information officer Albie Esparza told Polygon that Sarkeesian had filed a report with the police department about the threats she received online and that the police department handed the information to the FBI for investigation."

Literally every single report on this topic says that Esparza is referring to the reports filed in August.

September 11th: People talked to Esparza who said the files of the August threats weren't in his database
September 12th: Esparza responded again saying the files weren't in the database because they were sent to the FBI

I don't know how much clearer this has to be.


Any normal reporter wouldn't jump to conclusions based off of one piece of information. They would ask for more, or clarification. Saying "we don't have any records of this" isn't definitive proof that she was lying. It quite obviously wasn't.

"San Francisco police public information officer Albie Esparza told Polygon that Sarkeesian had filed a report with the police department about the threats she received online and that the police department handed the information to the FBI for investigation."

Literally every single report on this topic says that Esparza is referring to the reports filed in August.

September 11th: People talked to Esparza who said the files of the August threats weren't in his database
September 12th: Esparza responded again saying the files weren't in the database because they were sent to the FBI

Esparza: Right, so I do have a report for Ms. Sarkeesian was a victim of threats as well, but this was back in March of this year. So that’s the only record I found. But there’s nothing as of yet for August.

Esparza: Right, so I do have a report for Ms. Sarkeesian was a victim of threats as well, but this was back in March of this year. So that’s the only record I found. But there’s nothing as of yet for August.

-September 11th, 2014

http://www.staresattheworld.com/2014/09/...thorities/
Down towards the bottom, 7th question. September 11th. Before Esparza found the report was forwarded to the FBI.

^notice how this article is much more thorough on getting information about the subject? Yes, it was still wrong. But it wasn't reported on based on one response. And it's still left with an open-ended question of whether or not the reports were true, not definitive "proof" that she was lying.

I don't think you understand that a death threat allegation would not be sent to the FBI, a domestic terrorist would be, which is a march incident.

...?!

Honestly, would you know anything about reporting when you tried to say sex doesn't impact a journalists integrity at all? lmfao

I don't think you understand that a death threat allegation would not be sent to the FBI, a domestic terrorist would be, which is a march incident.

...?!

So...what? Esparza is wrong in saying that her August case was sent to the FBI? Are you seriously trying to deny that?

Earlier this month, the International Game Developers Association (IGDA) stated it is working with the FBI to monitor the harassment directed at independent developers.

So...what? Esparza is wrong in saying that her August case was sent to the FBI?

It most likely was a case regarding the bomb threat and not the death threats she received not even 20 seconds after the video was released/when she began to beg for money.

*He quite literally said that the reports that were sent to the FBI were the ones made in August regarding her death threats*
*How are you denying this are you seriously this afraid of being wrong???*

*He quite literally said that the reports that were sent to the FBI were the ones made in August regarding her death threats*
*How are you denying this are you seriously this afraid of being wrong???*

No I just wanted you to feel how, well everyone feels when they try to communicate with you.

So why are you against gamergate again? Since this entire conversation really isn't about gamergate?

Nice try, but alright. Whatever.

Let me ask you this, then.
What exactly do you want out of gamergate? Specifically, what do YOU want. What are you hoping to gain from this.
I don't want any videos, I don't want any articles. What do you want. What is so important to you here? And I don't want any broad general statements that don't really mean anything without context. "JOURNALISTIC INTEGRITY! TRANSPARENCY!" doesn't exactly cut it.

And, as the child in me demands, *why?*