Super Smash Bros. Wii U and 3DS Discussion

Well... guess that's it then?

At least you got Ness, Marietta.

At least you got Ness, Marietta.

And a really cool stage! and smash run enemies.

PEOPLE GOT POKEMON REPS BUT STILL WANT MEWTWO.
PEOPLE GOT FE REPS BUT STILL WANT ROY.

I NOW KNOW HOW THEY FEEL.

(don't get me wrong, though, still hype with all the other mother stuff like good god I am so stoked.)

pineapple it, I'm just gonna put it out there:

(And I'm not saying this to troll fans or keep the hype up or whatever.)

I have a source who has been right about previous leaks and has worked on the European localization of the game. He says he has definitely seen moving models of Dixie, Ridley, Chorus Men and Mewtwo in the game and he's still confident that these four characters can be unlocked by linking the 3DS version to the Wii U version.

Now, I know how outlandish this sounds, and being a game journalist myself I'm taking this with a grain of salt myself, but we're talking about the guy who told me about the Bowser Jr. alts immediately after the ESRB leaks and has never been wrong about other stuff as well. Plus, the whole connectivity thing makes far too much sense, if only to get fans to buy both versions. *insert itprintsmoney.gif here*

Again, I swear on my soul that I'm not trolling. Time will tell. I thought Ridley was never gonna be in, but hey.

Likely also bullshit.

I can't imagine they would keep characters locked like that until you buy both versions, that is just weird.
If working models of those 4 characters HAVE been seen, then I suppose we'd find it soon enough when someone hacks the games code.

All I wanted was a Daisy model. :<

And Mr. Game & Watch.

All I wanted was a Daisy model. :<

And Mr. Game & Watch.

Game and Watch is in? and he looks faster in my opinion.

Likely also bullpomegranate.

I can't imagine they would keep characters locked like that until you buy both versions, that is just weird.
If working models of those 4 characters HAVE been seen, then I suppose we'd find it soon enough when someone hacks the games code.

I don't know why you would bother posting a text leak now, they're obviously lies.

Hell, I can't even work out how the "chorus men" thing started. That's not even what they're called in Rhythm heaven (it should be chorus kids), so that's an incredibly easy alarm bell for fake leaks.

edit: lol, just seen the neogaf post that came from. The guy is going to be banned when it turns out it isn't true.

edit again:
Apparently smash run isn't even online? As if I could get any more indifferent about the mode.
https://twitter.com/Sora_Sakurai/status/...3953079298

I knew that the roster was complete the whole time. Just because the character select screen isn't a perfect square doesn't mean that there'd be more characters.

People just wanted to have hope for their desired character that they wanted to be in.

Pretty content with the full roster, even with it being a little disappointing.
At least I got my main man Doc back!

People just wanted to have hope for their desired character that they wanted to be in.

The real reason people get emotional over smash is because if your favourite character got cut or didn't make it in, you've probably got to wait 6 years before they even get another shot.

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Seriously sakurai stop pineappleing around and make ridley playable, no-one likes your stupid stage bosses Q_Q

The fact that Isaac from Golden Sun isn't there is the biggest red flag.

-He was an AT in Brawl and also there was GS music in one of the stages as an alternate tune.
-Little Mac was also an AT in Brawl but was upgraded to a full-fledged fighter.
-Psynergy and Djinn are great ways to make up unique move sets. The possibilities for Sakurai are nearly endless. (Judgment FS?)
-He was never shown to be a returning AT in any of the Nintendo directs.
-No one ever found him during the Best Buy demos across America

He will be confirmed for Smash Bros. Quote me on it.

My condolences mate.

I am truly getting sick of the Ridley pomegranate.

He is not most peoples "dream character". Sure some people might legitimately want him as a playable character but the majority of people saying stuff like "RIDLEY CONFIRMED, RIDLEY FOR SMASH, OMG RIDLEY" and seeing hints at Ridley in everything are just hangers on who probably don't even know who Ridley is other than being some kind of purple space dragon from Metroid. The only reason people care is because it has reached meme status.

Sitting through those leaks today was made absolutely painful by the bullpomegranate focus on a character we already have confirmed is simply a boss again. They say Sakurai has been hinting at Ridley a lot. How? by showing Ridley's shadow and saying he "shows up from time to time" on that stage? by making an offhand comment about characters not being to scale?

The damn character showed up as a boss 4 times in the story mode of Brawl, more than any other. As far as i'm concerned that is more than enough representation for a character that simply wouldn't work as a playable fighter. I see no campaigns for Rayquaza in smash, despite him being a dragon who showed up as a boss as well.

This is my first time getting hyped for a smash game (Brawl was my first) and ever since this game has been announced i've been getting steadily more and more sick to death of hearing about Ridley all the time.

That being said, I would prefer Ridley to Dark Pit. what on earth is the point of that character?

I find it funny people are bashing on dark pit despite seeing extremely little to literally NO gameplay of him... can we at least wait until everyone's custom moves are all unlocked and dissected before we pass judgment on whether a character was a waste of space? Clone or not.

Also, to my knowledge, it works like this:

Doctor Mario -> Plays like Melee mario
Dark Pit -> Plays like Brawl Pit

Both have been revised fairly heavily since their previous installment(s), pit moreso than mario. It kinda makes sense to make a clone of them to keep their previous playstyles alive.

I want my reversed nair knockback algorithm in melee for doc D=

I find it funny people are bashing on dark pit despite seeing extremely little to literally NO gameplay of him... can we at least wait until everyone's custom moves are all unlocked and dissected before we pass judgment on whether a character was a waste of space? Clone or not.

Also, to my knowledge, it works like this:

Doctor Mario -> Plays like Melee mario
Dark Pit -> Plays like Brawl Pit

Both have been revised fairly heavily since their previous installment(s), pit moreso than mario. It kinda makes sense to make a clone of them to keep their previous playstyles alive.

Dark Pit doesn't play like brawl Pit, he has the same moves as smash4 Pit, although I heard he has a different final smash.

http://imgur.com/a/Wqlfe

My sides.

http://imgur.com/a/Wqlfe

My sides.

Best ones:

Fox McCloud is looking sharp in his Home Depot vest! Fox's expertise lies in DIY advice for customers who have no items and are on Final Destination.

Rosalina and Home Depot Star join the fight! These two make for a powerful duo, largely due to the power of the Home Depot.

Marth was such a great employee that the Home Depot decided to hire him twice.

Dark Pit doesn't play like brawl Pit, he has the same moves as smash4 Pit, although I heard he has a different final smash.

I haven't seen Dark Pit's moveset, but a lot of stuff I've been reading has people saying his "B moves" are the same "B Moves" as Brawl Pit. Guess we'll find out for sure soon enough anyways.

Doc definitely has the Melee build to him though, which is rather nice.

Likely also bullshit.

I can't imagine they would keep characters locked like that until you buy both versions, that is just weird.
If working models of those 4 characters HAVE been seen, then I suppose we'd find it soon enough when someone hacks the games code.

I call bullshit purely on the basis of the requirements.

This is Nintendo and Sakurai we're talking about here.

DLC is not actually out of the question at this point (it has been over a year and Nintendo is growing more open to it), but the company that is consistently staying away from nickel-and-diming its customers and has a track record of wanting to provide a complete experience from the get go is not the company to force its consumers to buy an additional system and an additional game just to unlock all of the content.

The closest they have ever edge towards this is Pokemon, but that's a series where the entire point is to force you to play with others, not to encourage you to buy two games.