Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins

Good point, and I should realize that you're not the one who posts a lot.

I am actually one of the top three posters of this thread. But you know, you just keep on with your bad self trying to start a bandwagon.

I am actually one of the top three posters of this thread. But you know, you just keep on with your bad self trying to start a bandwagon.

Hmm.. random question, who are the other two?

I'm trying to find a suspect, so yeah, I will.

[COLOR="#cc8899"]For the record, school hasn't started yet for me, but it kicks off at the end of the month and I've been busy trying to get everything ready. I've also been going out on dates and in general having a life again now that I have an apartment, a car, and a pretty much stable life.

Plus I have Trouble demanding attention all the time. Lol.

I've left my vote where it is for now - I figure, especially now that [MENTION=1087]Shidoshi[/MENTION]; is being subbed, he's a low risk lynch.[/COLOR]

Good point, and I should realize that you're not the one who posts a lot.

Mas, on the other hand.. He might be busy, but his quietness does not seem good.

I'm keeping my vote on Simple until someone becomes more suss to me. I have no real leads, so I gotta trust my instincts.

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in fact, where's Holypie and Yoshi? More to Yoshi. I've not heard him in the last page.

I think that what you're doing actually hurts instead of helps. Right now you're not accomplishing anything and future days it's going to be a nuisance to read over all the spam (I'm counting other's "hints" as spam because I just won't understand them). Also if I were to meta like the rest of you I'd say you're acting like I did when I was mafia so I'm voting for you. Unless I'm misinterpreting something you are/were focusing on Simple for no particular solid reason. I didn't follow last game but I just fail to understand why someone who isn't contributing (or tries to in weird ways) should be ignored like @MasPan: said.

[Vote]LuvDWayULie

My two cents: mass-claim is a pretty bad idea, especially in this setup. We know that roles don't imply anything about powers (from a mechanics point of view) or alignment, so it's incredibly easy to fake a claim.

Simple was being a bit defensive but I think that's expected of a new player, it's pretty overwhelming to be voted at and you just kind of want to prove your innocence but don't have many solid facts to back it up (and really, who does at this point).

Luv looks pretty scummy, I'd say even more than usual actually. Just pointing out everyone who hasn't posted in the past couple of hours, seemingly desperate to call attention to someone else.

I don't want to vote for him because (sorry for metaing) his playstyle really is scummy looking, and also slightly because of that rule of threes thing Shidoshi mentioned last game haha. But on the other hand there's the casting suspicions without voting/finger pointing thing that seems to be frowned upon, so fine, [vote] [MENTION=8192]LuvDWayULie[/MENTION];

because of that rule of threes thing Shidoshi mentioned last game haha

I think I missed this, mind quoting it?



Hate to seem like I am jumping on the bandwagon, but what Holypie and Words has said I've thought myself and agree with. Using meta-game Luv normally follows the lead of someone else, yet the only thing he has been doing since the game started is try to be the leader and start a bandwagon. That is enough for me to suspect him of mafia even if he is acting "normal".

[Vote]LuvDWayULie

Fine, I'll reveal my Pokemon. I hate to reveal it so early but it hurts not to reveal it now. I'm a Pikachu, and I'm sided with the Town. I'm a roleblocker, as every night I can use my power Thunder to disable someone from using their powers. You all should know that I don't lie. Every time I don't lie. I'm just trying to be useful, and yet because of this, I get suspected. You guys can always investigate me, but I'm not the person you're looking for.

I have a feeling there might be more than one roleblocker in this game, but I'm not sure.

is it bad that im a wee disappointed that ur pikachu? i was almost hoping u were electrode and u blow up...

Roleblocker claiming as Town? Where have I heard that before?

I dunno, I'm still on the fence for voting.

Day ends in a little less than 3 hours, by the way (11PM EST/8PM PST).

Edit: formatting

Simple gave reasonable defenses in my opinion and not everyone studies past games they werent in.
Youre always suspicious of people for not that much based on history

While Luv's fixation on Simple is getting increasingly suspicious (why not address simple's points instead of calling each other defensive?), I don't know whether we should be risking losing a town roleblocker, if he even IS a town... We can force him to roleblock someone we find suspicious to "prove" his skill? But then again he's the most suspicious person of the lot so far...

Hate to seem like I am jumping on the bandwagon, but what Holypie and Words has said I've thought myself and agree with. Using meta-game Luv normally follows the lead of someone else, yet the only thing he has been doing since the game started is try to be the leader and start a bandwagon. That is enough for me to suspect him of mafia even if he is acting "normal".

Meta's taken the words out of my mouth; in a sense, it isn't really Luv's 'style' at all. Luv tends to bandwagon whoever is talking a the time, and even if we're not hasty to throw fingers around he's practically tried to vote someone off on the fact that they're "defensive". While it's not the best thing to be doing, it's not worth starting a bandwagon for. He's too adamant.

[Vote] [MENTION=8192]LuvDWayULie[/MENTION];

If people are willing to let him prove his role, I'll retract my vote. And I know it's a bit late to be voting, but I've been studying for an assessment (if things get really bad I'll sub) and I won't be posting much before the day ends (assessment starts today). Just a heads up that I am alive and everything.

is it bad that im a wee disappointed that ur pikachu? i was almost hoping u were electrode and u blow up...

Thank god that he isn't... Town'll be pretty damn crippled if he kills or even blocks everyone who voted for him. Why would you WANT that?

A town role blocker usually hurts the town more than the mafia if they arent extremely careful in who they block. I say we go for either luv or shidoshi's replacement today

Thank god that he isn't... Town'll be pretty damn crippled if he kills or even blocks everyone who voted for him. Why would you WANT that?

some people just want to see the world burn? lol

Nope, wasn't really crumbing anything (I'm gawdawful at that). His posts just seem pretty rude.

Don't be a playa hata skata nyeh

Anyway sorry I have been busy the past day and a half. Should be more active now. Last time I checked the thread nothing really important happened.

On LuvD, because that seems to be the most relevant thing here: I don't trust peoples' reactions to LuvD and their reasons for voting them. That said, I doubt mafia would Bus one of their own this early on, and it seems like enough people are voting them to where mafia is within the voters (unless I'm just out of sorts on the situation).
LuvD's claim is super sketch but I'm not going to vote them now.

I say we go for either luv or shidoshi's replacement today

i personally don't like subs (no offense to anyone) it's just that it seems to easy for someone to slip into someone else's role and be completely ignored, anyone remember fano from bad apple mafia? despite luv's actions i am going to place my vote on shidoshi because of that. [Vote]Shidoshi

Thats my issue too. Subs make it hard to get a grasp on the person but i think its early enough that it shouldnt matter all that much. If luv is meta and gets lynched today itll be a good start, if we still feel the same way about shidoshis sub we can lynch them next?

Im open to changing my vote if everyone really thinks the sub is a better play

I think I missed this, mind quoting it?



Hate to seem like I am jumping on the bandwagon, but what Holypie and Words has said I've thought myself and agree with. Using meta-game Luv normally follows the lead of someone else, yet the only thing he has been doing since the game started is try to be the leader and start a bandwagon. That is enough for me to suspect him of mafia even if he is acting "normal".

[Vote]LuvDWayULie

Here it is, from early on last game with the Chaz/Liable fiasco.

It is also said that "third time's the charm", the 3rd vote on an innocent wagon feels like the right point for mafia to jump in. Not too early so they seem responsible for the authorship of the wagon and not too late that they are the ones holding the hammer.

Also I didn't expect the Luvwagon to blow up so quickly. I agree that there probably is at least one mafioso within this wagon, the trouble is picking them out. Obviously I know it's not me (but you don't know that buuut whatever) despite posting something that directly incriminates me (why did I even mention the third time's the charm thing!?!?) but yeah we can analyze the wagons tomorrow.

As for town roleblockers, they're very dangerous to the town early on but if they don't act for the first couple of nights and survive until the late game, they can block kills very effectively. Personally I like townie roleblockers because they can be a very strong asset when played well. Of course, now that he's revealed if he doesn't get killed by us then he's probably going to die to the mafia.

I also don't really want to policy lynch Shidoshi based on the fact that he wants to sub out. At this point Shidoshi has barely posted anything so subbing out is pretty reasonable.

I think the idea of voting off is better than voting off Luv even if he is a little pushy. [Vote]Shidoshi

Day 1 ends at 11pm est, in a little more than an hour.

Votes:

[MENTION=6823]Polantaris[/MENTION]; (1): Hypermug

[MENTION=1087]Shidoshi[/MENTION];(5): Maspan, Shidoshi, Simple, ChaoticCJ, LuvDWayULie
[MENTION=8192]LuvDWayULie[/MENTION];(5): Olsi, Words, Holypie, MetaSeraphim, Kyrastri

It is hard to tell with Luv if he is mafia or not. I find it strange he chose to roleclaim a pokemon which would probably be guaranteed in a Gen 1 pokemon mafia. There may be a counterclaim, but to pick Pikachu is a big gamble. Whether he is mafia or not is a different story. We have had town roleblockers (actually I was the prostitute, but it was the same thing); but they are a gamble since they can accidentally stop the town. On the other hand, I am also not too much in favor of subs, because two people often play differently, but since it is being done early it isn't too bad.

Personally after reading Holypie's comment I am going to [vote]Shidoshi. Even if Luv is bait for the mafia kill, we at least protect the doctor and detective for a Night rather than leaving it to chance. Even if Luv doesn't dies from the mafia, they will more than likely use him as bait, and we can always check him tonight or later. At leave by voting for Shidoshi we can (hopefully) get a relatively harmless lynch.