Today's the day.

That thing about the first battle against the black mage, I think instead of refering to us fighting Orchid and Lotus as the black mage representatives they might actually be new jobs, that would explain the banner in that pic. This is probably the first time I wouldn't mind at all since I've wanted Orchid at least to be a job for a long time.

As for 5th job, has anyone thought that maybe Nexon dropped that idea already? They can't even get right the balancing they are doing to all the existing jobs and skills for the last 5 or 6 years, adding anotherr job level for 32 classes out there would only make it harder. Yes the last changes hint to some skill changes, but what if they are doing something more akin to a hyper skill revamp?

As for 5th job, has anyone thought that maybe Nexon dropped that idea already? They can't even get right the balancing they are doing to all the existing jobs and skills for the last 5 or 6 years, adding anotherr job level for 32 classes out there would only make it harder. Yes the last changes hint to some skill changes, but what if they are doing something more akin to a hyper skill revamp?

They haven't dropped it. It's a system that takes long to develop. The 5th job advancement has a symbolic meaning for Nexon according to them. They want a 'perfect release'. The game has 35 classes with 2400 skills. You have no idea how the system will work. Can't you understand it will take a while for the developers to create aesthetic skills with superb 2D quality (again, according to them)? They have to develop new content too to keep the game updated as well.

When 4th job advancement first came out in the Korean test server, it took the developers approximately 6 months to release it in 2006 in the public server. That was at a time when the game didn't have so many classes available. I imagine it will be the same, if not more than 6 months for 5th job for balancing and to collect data and user feedback.

Content for Lv. 200~250 is low priority at the moment according to the new director.

F'uck that.

Hoping ms2 gets released soon so I can phase out of the dead ms1.

Deep down, I knew this update wasn't going to be the shizzles.
It's not a T1 update and until something big comes, I'm not willing to believe it being a T1 update until the Q2 report.
It's a large patch with many many changes but it is in no way as big as some of the other Tier 1 updates.

I anticipate the winter patch to be a fairly large patch. There's no doubt in my mind that 5th job is close and it's coming very soon, at the very latest, Q1 2015 (barring any last minute changes).

The last patch is definitely the most exciting. Personally I'm looking forward to older jobs being updated rather than new jobs being added, since they're not just planning skill updates but also story and personality!

Insoya posted some more slides and from them I saw they want to use things like Dimensional Library, Zero's story, the new Mushroom Kingdom, and Friends Story as examples of content they want to be 'normal'. I don't know about you guys but I loved these and getting more stuff like them will be great

The last patch is definitely the most exciting. Personally I'm looking forward to older jobs being updated rather than new jobs being added, since they're not just planning skill updates but also story and personality!

Insoya posted some more slides and from them I saw they want to use things like Dimensional Library, Zero's story, the new Mushroom Kingdom, and Friends Story as examples of content they want to be 'normal'. I don't know about you guys but I loved these and getting more stuff like them will be great

I like seeing all the character art for questlines. It makes it a lot more fun and exciting to interact with NPCs!

What is so wrong with the Resistance classes (or probably Nexon) that it requires what feels like more than five revamps? I can understand a few revamps across a variety of classes, once in a while; but this reminds me of an electronic I once owned that required six returns to the manufacturer for fixing, it screams incompetency and shoddy workmanship.

What is so wrong with the Resistance classes (or probably Nexon) that it requires what feels like more than five revamps? I can understand a few revamps across a variety of classes, once in a while; but this reminds me of an electronic I once owned that required six returns to the manufacturer for fixing, it screams incompetency and shoddy workmanship.

They probably avoided touching the Resistance (more than just number changes) after that Battlemage update they released to Tespia that literally everyone hated on until they deleted it entirely.

"First Battle of the Black Mage" makes so much more sense than the original translation. Since he's been free, there really hasn't been any progress in dealing with him. Prior to this, Orchid hadn't spoken a single word since Gelmer's betrayal. Orchid formally becoming an ally to the alliance would likely provide the information needed to begin a formal counterattack, with Gelmer being the first target.

That thing about the first battle against the black mage, I think instead of refering to us fighting Orchid and Lotus as the black mage representatives they might actually be new jobs, that would explain the banner in that pic. This is probably the first time I wouldn't mind at all since I've wanted Orchid at least to be a job for a long time.

Remember when we used to speculate that Orchid would be the Resistance Thief?

.....

Well, we were sort of right since we could choose to make Xenon look like Orchid or Lotus.....

Ehhh.. More revamps. The fact that all 4th job SP are earned between levels 100-140 is very likely prep worth for an eventual fifth job, so thats something at least. Star Planet seems okay I suppose, but I actually like the idea of mileage being earned through normal gameplay more than the idea of it being earned through Star Planet. Not that it matters. Do we even have mileage in GMS? As for the rest of it, bleh. I don't play MS to try out all the different characters (when I do play it), I play to maximize one or two to their fullest ability. More story content is pretty cool. I don't even care that my class is getting another update by this point, its standard procedure now. What does interest me here is the Black Mage battle and their attitude towards making the game a bit more palatable for those who don't spend heavily on NX.

Not that GMS is getting mileage anyways, but it's upsetting that they are removing the ability to gain mileage from bossing and training and making it only obtainable from minigames. Seems a bit backward to me.

Not that GMS is getting mileage anyways, but it's upsetting that they are removing the ability to gain mileage from bossing and training and making it only obtainable from minigames. Seems a bit backward to me.

Idk, it kind of makes sense to me. You participate in events, and play games to earn cash prizes!
Earning it via actual game-play seemed fine too, though it's one of those things that was easier for high levels that have lots of bossing options, since low levels would still be figuring everything out. Pretty much anybody of any level can participate in mini-games~

Man, I wish GMS would use the Mileage thing =[ it would help so much with how crappy not playing with NX feels.

Ugh, they never thought of poor Aran and Evan revamp before this. Nexon Korea, look at their horrible skills (no buffs, except Maha)..

Nexon hates Arans, that's all I'm going to say, they just make fun of the class because of the gender thing but they don't see how obsolete it is overall (not just skills but story, design, etc).

I guess Aran isn't a popular class and they just don't care because of it.

It's kinda cool to imagine a Orca/Suu class, were they work kinda like zero i.e. using the tag system(seeing how in their comic they could only use their full power/any power only when together). Also I'm pretty sure they would be considered a mage class, using darkness magic seeing how they are darkness spirits iirc

Idk, it kind of makes sense to me. You participate in events, and play games to earn cash prizes!
Earning it via actual game-play seemed fine too, though it's one of those things that was easier for high levels that have lots of bossing options, since low levels would still be figuring everything out. Pretty much anybody of any level can participate in mini-games~

Man, I wish GMS would use the Mileage thing =[ it would help so much with how crappy not playing with NX feels.

That's a valid point, but why not just add mileage to minigames instead of removing it from actual gameplay? Now players have to waste time with a bunch of shitty minigames instead of just playing the main game and earning points. It's a really odd decision and I hope they don't implement it this way if GMS gets mileage by some chance.

That's a valid point, but why not just add mileage to minigames instead of removing it from actual gameplay? Now players have to waste time with a bunch of pomegranatety minigames instead of just playing the main game and earning points. It's a really odd decision and I hope they don't implement it this way if GMS gets mileage by some chance.

The idea may be to force ppl to interact with each other via minigames, whereas the other methods give no gurantees of that. Seeing that you have some ppl that don't boss and like to sit around and socialize, it makes sense.

On another note:

It would have been cool if they at least sneak peeked 1-2of the revamped skills to add some excitement. Alot of this vagueness just doesn't do it for me and I feel could be the reasons why some find this patch a bit boorish.

The idea may be to force ppl to interact with each other via minigames, whereas the other methods give no gurantees of that. Seeing that you have some ppl that don't boss and like to sit around and socialize, it makes sense.

There are far better ways to do it.

Make the best way to get mileage from mini games, half or quarter the mileage gained from bosses and whatever else. Everyone wins.

Isn't this kinda like Mileage?

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