Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory

I don't see how the pineapple am I suspicious because if I was Mafia I would have won already by not killing Kyra.

Saying obvious things do not diminish your suspicion.

True, the mafia are quite stupid (not that townies have done much better). If they had left Kyra, we would have lynched him assuming he was lying, and they could have killed 2 townies, which would have meant the town lost.
So, we have Corn; Shidoshi; TheBirds; Olsi; faonkarino; and CakesXD; left. I'm going to say Corn; and TheBirds are the most suspicious, and with LuvD dead, I propose lynching either Corn, Cakes, or TheBirds. What do you guys think?

Mmm, I still think TheBirds has some sort of win condition where they must be lynched, so I'm not really interested in going there. That leaves me and Corn (well, from your list. I still think some of the others are suspicious), and why would I want to incriminate myself?

This is an enormous mess. I'm gonna re-read some of the past few pages and see if I find anything.

[MENTION=13694]faonkarino[/MENTION]; Since curse words are censored on Southperry, that phrase turns into "wtp" because the word is replaced with "pineapple".

Saying obvious things do not diminish your suspicion.

How the pineapple am I more suspicious than anyone else? Everyone is equally pineappleing suspicious because everyone pineappleing pushed for the three goddamn innocents.

If anything I'd argue the people who voted for LuvDaWay2Die are more suspicious than the people who voted for Kira because let's say I was mafia. Then WHY THE pineapple WOULD I KILL KIRA? SHE WAS GOING TO DIE TODAY ANYWAYS.

I mean if you really want to kill me then go ahead. I said if Khaini and Kira were both mafia, you can lynch me, and that turned out to be false, so w/e.

[Vote] CakesXD

Ok, let's go with the "stupid mafia" theory then.

I mean literally everyone is stupid right now (including me).

[Vote]TheBirds everyone needs to stop being spoilsports and lynch me already. I swear I am trying to help.

[Vote]Olsi

I no longer believe that Olsi is innocent. Everyone knew Olsi was going to be investigated. Considering Luv was investigated and came out as mafia when he was not, and it is unlikely that both Kyra and Holypie were insane/not normal cops, I highly agree with the theory that the mafia has a Tailor.

They have been discounted ever since the Third Day, and so they haven't had to defend themselves at all. I haven't see ALL that much posting out of them that has been overall helpful to us (more pointing out some obvious stuff, like the responses to Luv's thoughts). I believe that they are mafia. It was one of the most easily manipulated circumstances this game, and there have been plenty.

I mean, we can't assume the mafia's target being purely due to not knowing how to play, stupidity, etc., because any given group of 3 (or 4) of the remaining players has at least one person who should know better in it. Unless they assumed Kyra could be the bird, and needed to be dealt with sooner rather than later or something like that? I dunno.

...at this point I almost want to lynch TheBirds for the hell of it, since we're close to defeat anyway, but I'll refrain from throwing away my vote that for everyone else's sake.

Im surprised I'm the most scummy to you polantaris, I did have exams so I couldnt post all that much after all. I think it makes more sense that Im innocent after being investigated by two people and watched by BTA than to there be a tailor, plus it doesnt make sense for the tailor to have used their ability on Luv if there was one. It would make more sense to be used on someone like TheBirds who was already being suspicious. Not to mention when the person that was tailored dies they are (supposedly) shown as what the tailor set them as, so Luv would have had a description of mafia in his description, which he didnt so if we are assuming things its safest to assume there is no tailor by the results of Luv's death.

Of course our god may have changed that part

At the moment the only one I can truly see as town is BTA due to his role. I'm most worried about corn, it seems he really wanted kyrastri to be lynched, although when it was meta's word versus words we decided that killing the other person and potentially keeping a cop alive was the better play, so why change your mind?

There has to be some role that confused Kyra into seeing Luv as mafia. [MENTION=7423]TheBirds[/MENTION]; hinted at being his "lover", but then also seems to possibly have some lynch power. If we knew what this power was we would know whether to lynch or leave him, but we don't so we are forced to leave him. I don't think Olsi is mafia because they would have to trick both Kyra and Holypie (although that is possible). Honestly, I have no idea at this point. Our cops didn't find any mafia at all (Meta found the only mafia, and was not a cop), and our doctor didn't save anyone. So far the town looks like it;s in big, big trouble. Its highly likely that whoever we lynch at this point will decide the game. If we don't get a mafia member we probably will lose.

Also, won't be on much Wednesday and Thursday, sorry.

As I said it's more likely that Kyra was a random cop because Luv's death description did not say mafia as it would if he got affected by the tailor. I also don't think they would kill kyrastri if they had a tailor to be able to manipulate her. As for suspicions still waiting for an answer from [MENTION=846]Corn[/MENTION];.

wtp do you want me to say?

My only advice is to not lynch TheBirds. He's obviously a third party. I mean before I was all for lynching him because I was pretty sure we'd lynch a mafia soon afterwards, but now's not the time to dabble.

I feel so rejected.

Not sure if I'll have time later, so [vote][MENTION=10466]CakesXD[/MENTION];

wtp do you want me to say?

My only advice is to not lynch TheBirds. He's obviously a third party. I mean before I was all for lynching him because I was pretty sure we'd lynch a mafia soon afterwards, but now's not the time to dabble.

Possibly some sort of reasoning or defense ?

I love the giant ammount of posts we're having today. I can barely keep up!



Not that I can blame you guys for it, we have nothing.

wtp do you want me to say?

My only advice is to not lynch TheBirds. He's obviously a third party. I mean before I was all for lynching him because I was pretty sure we'd lynch a mafia soon afterwards, but now's not the time to dabble.

It's possible we already reached LyLo but the game hasn't ended because we refuse to lynch TheBirds .-. He probably has a "Get lynched" win condition.

Im surprised I'm the most scummy to you polantaris, I did have exams so I couldnt post all that much after all. I think it makes more sense that Im innocent after being investigated by two people and watched by BTA than to there be a tailor, plus it doesnt make sense for the tailor to have used their ability on Luv if there was one. It would make more sense to be used on someone like TheBirds who was already being suspicious. Not to mention when the person that was tailored dies they are (supposedly) shown as what the tailor set them as, so Luv would have had a description of mafia in his description, which he didnt so if we are assuming things its safest to assume there is no tailor by the results of Luv's death.

Of course our god may have changed that part

At the moment the only one I can truly see as town is BTA due to his role. I'm most worried about corn, it seems he really wanted kyrastri to be lynched, although when it was meta's word versus words we decided that killing the other person and potentially keeping a cop alive was the better play, so why change your mind?

Was hoping for more responses to my post before I said anything else about this.

It's not that I believe that you're the most scummy, but more that everyone just accepted the innocent results, and now we did that and ended up lynching a good apple while Kyrastri WAS an investigator.

I'm not really sure what kinds of results would come from BTA's ability. Would it catch anyone who showed up to see you? Is he lying completely? Maybe there's some other power here that's changing results, or maybe it's a Day power that affects the following night. We really don't know. There's too many possibilities and this game has been so random and weird that it's almost impossible to tell anything anymore.

We also can't trust "normals" in any mafia game. Sure, maybe the mafiascum wiki says that tailored people who are killed have special messages, but our game has no obligation to follow that.

There's also no guarantee that we actually had a normal cop. We've heard how mafia games on SP were in the past.

I doubt anyone else will ever vote for you, and the fact that no one responded to me about it makes that almost certain.

It's possible we already reached LyLo but the game hasn't ended because we refuse to lynch TheBirds .-. He probably has a "Get lynched" win condition.



Was hoping for more responses to my post before I said anything else about this.

It's not that I believe that you're the most scummy, but more that everyone just accepted the innocent results, and now we did that and ended up lynching a good apple while Kyrastri WAS an investigator.

I'm not really sure what kinds of results would come from BTA's ability. Would it catch anyone who showed up to see you? Is he lying completely? Maybe there's some other power here that's changing results, or maybe it's a Day power that affects the following night. We really don't know. There's too many possibilities and this game has been so random and weird that it's almost impossible to tell anything anymore.

We also can't trust "normals" in any mafia game. Sure, maybe the mafiascum wiki says that tailored people who are killed have special messages, but our game has no obligation to follow that.

There's also no guarantee that we actually had a normal cop. We've heard how mafia games on SP were in the past.

I doubt anyone else will ever vote for you, and the fact that no one responded to me about it makes that almost certain.

It would be silly for the game to just continue until we finally lynch thebirds >.>.

Also so far our god has been staying pretty true to things like the wiki says so I doubt he would change such a DISTINCT characteristic that makes the tailor better, being that it makes the town think that they killed a mafia or they killed an innocent potentially ruining peoples claims among other things.

I have to believe that you are townie like me and BTA though, mafia would not take the risk to go after me in a lynch vote when there are easier targets like [MENTION=846]Corn[/MENTION]; and [MENTION=10466]CakesXD[/MENTION]; (assuming they arent mafia). Of course this could all be a way to draw suspicions from yourself but no point in sticking myself in a loop

I'm not really sure what kinds of results would come from BTA's ability. Would it catch anyone who showed up to see you? Is he lying completely? Maybe there's some other power here that's changing results, or maybe it's a Day power that affects the following night. We really don't know. There's too many possibilities and this game has been so random and weird that it's almost impossible to tell anything anymore.

xBTAx was watching Olsi when both Kyrastri and HolyPie investigated him. He reported back saying that two people were watching Olsi, but not much else.

Anyway, I don't know what to think right now. As for the votes for me, I'd like to ask, why? [MENTION=1087]Shidoshi[/MENTION]; and [MENTION=10201]Niernen[/MENTION];

I remain incredibly tempted to vote for TheBirds since we have almost nothing to go on. I'd sorta like to see what he's pulling rather than just going out on such a dull note if Cake's a townie, but... also not going to throw things away if it'll annoy the rest of you, so I guess not.

To be honest, I'm not really sure what my ability's supposed to give me normally. The only actual result I got with it is the two people watching Olsi thing, which was helpful in this situation but normally... I'm not sure if "someone did ___" is actually helpful for anything. Part of me thinks that maybe there'd have been more specifics if only one action was done, but who knows. Maybe it's intentionally very vague to balance out the two cops? Hmm.