Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory

So it looks like others are also considering the Kyrasti+Khaini theory I proposed yesterday after CJ's reveal. Claiming to be a cop and doctor would give you more immunity to lynching, and we know Holypie was a cop. Kyrasti did not provide new information on the previous day (although the CJ thing may be because the worm was eating an apple, no idea). I'll hold off on voting for now. If we lynch Kyrasti and he was a cop, we would be in the dark, although it would be much more likely that Luv is mafia. If we lynch Kyrasti and he was mafia, Luv gets cleared, and Khaini would look a louth more suspicious.

I hate the fact that the cop is has to investigate a townie to prove innocence. It would be much better if they found mafia than proved townies. People are still saying I am suspicious, and I would like to know why, as no one has really give any reasons. As far as I know, I have not acted very scummy, and I have been looking out for the town best I can. And still.... Also, no one seems to have even looked at [MENTION=13694]faonkarino[/MENTION];. I'm not saying he is supicious, but no one seems to really mention him (maybe because he was subbed in?)

[MENTION=1087]Shidoshi[/MENTION]; Damn it, I keep seeing your Holo avatar and thinking about how she reacted to apples.

Niernen, the reason I don't talk about too many people at once is to keep focus. You can't lynch more than one each Day, if we spread the arguments too much we end up without much conclusive results at the end of the Day.

Faon seems townish in general with all his good contributions, like Polantaris. They have been figuratively number crunching for all of us with post analysis.

You've been mostly harmless, like the earth, so people haven't bothered with you a lot, either to clear you up or to blame you.

Everyone is still up for suspicion, but you can't be paranoid, or you'll go crazy.

Fair enough. So between, Kyrasti and LuvDWayULie. While Luv has not really done much bad, he has not really helped much either, and has not defended himself well. And if Kyrasti was the cop, we would lose an important power. However, if Kyrasti was mafia, he would just be feeding us more lies for a day, and we would lose 2 townies before he goes.

For now, [Vote][MENTION=10411]Kyrastri[/MENTION];. This could change if something comes up later in the day of course. If Kyrasti is mafia, I would be highly suspicious of Khaini. He has always supported Kyrasti over Holypie (which we now know was a cop). He has not done a great job as a doctor, saving no one, and letting Meta and Holypie die. He has an excuse for Meta, but not one for Holypie. And for some very strange reason, he is still alive, even though he announced he was the doctor. Why wouldn't the Mafia target the doctor over a cop? If they kill the doctor, no one could protect the cop. And why, for gods sake, wouldn't the doctor protect Holypie, who we all knew was a cop with CJ's death? The more I look at it, the more suspicious it looks. I propose we lynch Kyrasti, and if he is mafia, then Khaini. If Kyrasti is not mafia, then he was probably telling the truth, and LuvDWayULie would be the next canidate.

Also, since it is highly unlikely we will be able to investigate [MENTION=7423]TheBirds[/MENTION]; what do we do about him? Ignore him and avoid lynching him? Because it could be possible he is doing all this just so we don't vote for him, in a reverse psychology kind of way.

Or maybe I'm the feared double-downer voting apple, OOOOOOoooooOoOoOOOoOOoOooOOo!

Like CJ thought you were, yeah. But still...

Polantaris voting on Kyra right after Shidoshi? Shidoshi, which I suspect, trying to kill Kyra which is supposedly a cop and which I believe?

Well, this makes things much, much clearer to me. [Vote] LuvDWayULie

Edit: @Niernen I believed HolyPie was a cop since day two. The only one I have not believed at all since his claim was Meta, cause, well, he doing the SAME gambit yet again was too predictable.

About TheBirds, we weren't going to vote on him (at least I wouldn't, and I gathered you wouldn't too) if he stayed silent, so it doesn't make sense that he started to post while showing off such strange behaviour only to get people to not vote on him, since they would not vote on him either way. But we have bigger fish to catch, and I'm not giving in to some randomic nonsense.

Faon, your tunnel vision on me looks more suspicious each day. I also don't buy it that you don't find the least bit weird having two role cops, a watcher, a doc, hooker and vigilante on Town. To me it just seems like excuses to protect Kyra and divert attention.
The fact that your opinion hasn't changed all that much with the passing Days only strengthens my suspicions of you, but we'll deal with Kyra first.

Who was the hooker?

Who was the hooker?

Meta, though his PM wasn't really that clear.

My count so far:
CakesXD (0):
Corn (0):
KhainiWest (0):
Kyrastri (4): LuvDWayULie, Niernen, Polantaris, Shidoshi,
LuvDWayULie (3): KhainiWest, Kyrastri, faonkarino
Niernen (0):
Olsi (0):
Polantaris (0):
Shidoshi (0):
TheBirds (1): TheBirds,
xBTAx (0):
faonkarino (0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (4): CakesXD, Corn, Olsi, xBTAx,

Here's the problem with your theories. The very reveal of CJ clarified why Kyastri got such a significantly different result. It did not tell her the apple was good or bad, just what the literal apple was when he was eating it. It makes sense, we need to stop trying to villainizing the blunder and wasting our votes like this.

Luvdwayyoulie is and has confessed to be a new mafia player. I believe an experienced player would not have attempted to kill Meta as the doctor would, obviously, protect him. I don't say "I" because it wasn't revealed until after. The mafia are making extremely obvious and safe moves, where they are in a position to really make some risks.

One word: mafia cop.

One word: mafia cop.

Holypie was a detective, not a cop, Kyastri posted her result of Olsi first, where holypie confirmed it. Therefore it's obvious she's the cop.

Here's the problem with your theories. The very reveal of CJ clarified why Kyastri got such a significantly different result. It did not tell her the apple was good or bad, just what the literal apple was when he was eating it. It makes sense, we need to stop trying to villainizing the blunder and wasting our votes like this.

Luvdwayyoulie is and has confessed to be a new mafia player. I believe an experienced player would not have attempted to kill Meta as the doctor would, obviously, protect him. I don't say "I" because it wasn't revealed until after. The mafia are making extremely obvious and safe moves, where they are in a position to really make some risks.

Err, since when I'm a mafia player?

One word: mafia cop.

This, really. I've been saying this since i dunno when.

Err, since when I'm a mafia player?



This, really. I've been saying this since i dunno when.

As in the game, not the role, therefore the moves the mafia has been making, safe and obvious, would align perfectly with your inexperience.

As in the game, not the role, therefore the moves the mafia has been making, safe and obvious, would align perfectly with your inexperience.

Yeah, but I did not confess about being a mafia player.

Please make sure you do check your facts before posting. That is quite a serious allegation, Khaini. I believe the others might be mistaken of me confessing.

Holypie was a detective, not a cop, Kyastri posted her result of Olsi first, where holypie confirmed it. Therefore it's obvious she's the cop.

Now that's just being petty.

Now that's just being petty.

Someone else did notice his pettiness since he started raging about us.

I believe an experienced player would not have attempted to kill Meta as the doctor would, obviously, protect him.

The problem with that is that you get stuck in a loop of they would they might. At the time of Words lynching Meta was the most valueable and threating player so of course the mafia would take the risk to kill her.

Yeah, but I did not confess about being a mafia player.

Please make sure you do check your facts before posting. That is quite a serious allegation, Khaini. I believe the others might be mistaken of me confessing.

....Is this your first or few times playing mafia or not? The game is called mafia, how else do you want me to phrase it?

Now that's just being petty.

How is that petty? They are two different roles.

EDIT:

Is it a mere coincidence these two have shared the same opinion of the same people for the last like 10 pages

Holypie was a detective, not a cop, Kyastri posted her result of Olsi first, where holypie confirmed it. Therefore it's obvious she's the cop.

There are two options it seems. One, luv is mafia and holypie and kyrastri are both cops
Or two, kyrastri is mafia and luv is innocent.

You make a good point that kyrastri posted the results of me first, but if she really is mafia then she would know who else is mafia, and then she could just say I was innocent and match holypie, right?
Its just a thought, either way we seem to have a 50/50 chance at this

There are two options it seems. One, luv is mafia and holypie and kyrastri are both cops Or two, kyrastri is mafia and luv is innocent. You make a good point that kyrastri posted the results of me first, but if she really is mafia then she would know who else is mafia, and then she could just say I was innocent and match holypie, right? Its just a thought, either way we seem to have a 50/50 chance at this

You must be new at this. The more obvious option is that luv and krya are innocent and krya is just insane.

There are two options it seems. One, luv is mafia and holypie and kyrastri are both cops
Or two, kyrastri is mafia and luv is innocent.

You make a good point that kyrastri posted the results of me first, but if she really is mafia then she would know who else is mafia, and then she could just say I was innocent and match holypie, right?
Its just a thought, either way we seem to have a 50/50 chance at this

Would she known who CJ was?