Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory
Holypie Wrote:Honestly? I think I got a bit excited over the ridiculous mechanics of this game and to save Meta because (depending on this Words lynch) I believe she's telling the truth.

My flavour text was that I found a stem and some applesauce. So really, it could go either way but based on my role action and my role pm flavour text I'm pretty sure I have the same ability as you. Maybe we check different aspects, I'm not sure. For example you get colour, I get ??? Spying is a much more direct way of checking someone than investigation though. Then again, has Meta explicitly claimed cop? Spying could also imply that she's a tracker, getting to see who her target visits at night. If she has disregard then this train of thought.

Er... How would claiming help save Meta?

As for your flavour text, I think that may have been a special case as y0y0 was 'sauced', or killed by the bad apples. It may imply that you investigated after the bad apples killed y0y0. And depending on our next investigation, we may be 'decoy' or flavour cops. Nothing from your post nor mine were binary 'guilty/non-guilty' results, so I suggest we post our investigation results as soon as possible for each day to give players enough time to decipher and interpret our results.

With Meta, she didn't confirm nor deny that she was a cop; her posts alluded to that fact. But until we find out what her flavour text for Words was, we can't be sure of anything.
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Corn Wrote:Guys guys it's too pineappleing early to have 3 fake cops, I did it on Day 3 in the last mafia remember?

Seriously, the hell did I just come back to? Though I think it's worth reminded everyone that the last time Meta pulled this, they were actually innocent (though not a cop) and it was Corn here that was mafia. However, I'm pretty sure they never explained why (I couldn't find a post-game explanation at least, but maybe I missed a post), and though I think it'd be unlikely for Meta to use it again, they could just be reusing that strategy.

Holypie Wrote:Honestly, if Mas designed this game anything like the old SP Mafia games, this isn't surprising in the least. Those were the most power role heavy, unbalanced games I've ever seen, and they were great. Anyway nostalgia aside, there's a very simple way to resolve this. Meta, Kyrastri, and I should all investigate the same person, and then lynch that person. I'm fairly certain this is a case of multiple cops and this should shed light on the mental status of all of us. Whoever the doctor is, you're going to have a fun night tonight. At the moment, I think it's safe to say that lynching Words would be good for confirmation for Meta.


I agree with most of this (old SP Mafia nostalgia included), but you three better 1. pick a good person to target tonight and 2. hope the doctor picks really well, or this mess could be costing the town big time. Rolleyes

(And, Meta, though this is awkward to ask- do you want to set us straight regarding pronouns or should people inconsistently using he and she continue...?)
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xBTAx Wrote:I agree with most of this (old SP Mafia nostalgia included), but you three better 1. pick a good person to target tonight and 2. hope the doctor picks really well, or this mess could be costing the town big time. Rolleyes

(And, Meta, though this is awkward to ask- do you want to set us straight regarding pronouns or should people inconsistently using he and she continue...?)

Yeah, it'll be pretty darn spectacular if we do fail.

[MENTION=41]Holypie[/MENTION]; [MENTION=2462]MetaSeraphim[/MENTION];

The current votes placed are:
[MENTION=10466]CakesXD[/MENTION]; (1): [MENTION=1087]Shidoshi[/MENTION];
[MENTION=7446]Words[/MENTION]; (1): HolyPie

Given Shidoshi's suspicion on Cakes, I think we should investigate them. Until someone more suspicious comes up, or if Cakes defends themselves, anyway.
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Just trying to catch up with whatever the heck happened in the last couple of hours.

Kyrastri Wrote:Given Shidoshi's suspicion on Cakes, I think we should investigate them. Until someone more suspicious comes up, or if Cakes defends themselves, anyway.

HolyPie did ask Shidoshi twice about the suspicions surrounding me, but no answer. Polantaris also wondered about the suspicion.

I do think lynching Words is the best way to go, in order to either confirm or disprove Meta's claims.
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Judging from everyone's suspicions, Words, Meta and Cakes are the ones. Will still see first.
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CakesXD Wrote:Just trying to catch up with whatever the heck happened in the last couple of hours.



HolyPie did ask Shidoshi twice about the suspicions surrounding me, but no answer. Polantaris also wondered about the suspicion.

I do think lynching Words is the best way to go, in order to either confirm or disprove Meta's claims.

Mhm. Personally, from what I've seen so far, you haven't really struck me as a particularly suss person, so we'll see.

[MENTION=8192]LuvDWayULie[/MENTION]; You might want to comment more than merely rehashing what's already been said, or passively saying to wait. If everyone does that, nobody's going to do anything :p Don't forget that you're still suspicious, at least to me, from Day 1's actions. Or maybe people really can mellow out to the point of near-useless posts in a day. Either way, let's see some opinions fly! Smile
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Kyrastri Wrote:Mhm. Personally, from what I've seen so far, you haven't really struck me as a particularly suss person, so we'll see.

LuvDWayULie; You might want to comment more than merely rehashing what's already been said, or passively saying to wait. If everyone does that, nobody's going to do anything :p Don't forget that you're still suspicious, at least to me, from Day 1's actions. Or maybe people really can mellow out to the point of near-useless posts in a day. Either way, let's see some opinions fly! Smile

Well, I can't do anything else, can I? Smile

Okay, I shall lynch someone now. [Vote] Words

I have some feeling that Words is the one, but I'm not entirely sure why. Just my guts. Looking at Meta's previous game, she's using the same technique...? So, I don't think it's her. Cakes is not suspicious to me either, so I think it's Words.

[EDIT] I shall add that I'm not the one you're looking for Smile If you lynch/kill me, you'll lose another person.
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I am not sure if we just got lucky or are playing into the hands of the mafia. The almost linear rush to take out Words seems like it could be a diversion, but right now it is the best option to avoid any large mishaps with lynching the detective/cop/investigators.

I do still want to hear from Corn and Verrkol to see what they have to say, since they are pretty vocal about these types of situations. I am also cautiously watching and waiting for Cookie and TheBirds to respond to what has happened so far.
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ChaoticCJ Wrote:I am not sure if we just got lucky or are playing into the hands of the mafia. The almost linear rush to take out Words seems like it could be a diversion, but right now it is the best option to avoid any large mishaps with lynching the detective/cop/investigators.

I do still want to hear from Corn and Verrkol to see what they have to say, since they are pretty vocal about these types of situations. I am also cautiously watching and waiting for Cookie and TheBirds to respond to what has happened so far.

Well, we still have time to change votes, so until something happens, I'll stick with my vote.
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ChaoticCJ Wrote:I am not sure if we just got lucky or are playing into the hands of the mafia. The almost linear rush to take out Words seems like it could be a diversion, but right now it is the best option to avoid any large mishaps with lynching the detective/cop/investigators.

I do still want to hear from Corn and Verrkol to see what they have to say, since they are pretty vocal about these types of situations. I am also cautiously watching and waiting for Cookie and TheBirds to respond to what has happened so far.

Aside from the possibility of Meta being mafia, how else are we 'playing into their hands'? Honestly curious to hear what you've got. We've got a while to go, like Luv's asserted, so I'm willing to take the risk on that gambit right now.

Worst case scenario: Inadvertently lynch Words, who was the doctor. Not very likely, granted, since the doctor would be playing low and Words would have defended him/herself better. Either Holy, insane/paranoid Meta or I die during the night since we no longer have a guard. Meta is wrongly lynched.

It's much more likely to lynch an innocent Words, proving that Meta is either lying, insane or paranoid. The check that we do night 2 will confirm at least one of those scenarios.

Best case scenario: Lynch a mafia Words. We now have 3 detectives, and we can now all investigate one person to confirm sanities.

I think the 'linear rush' is just reaching a conclusion where we're taking a gamble. Of course, if you have information you've been withholding until this point, I suggest you tell us Smile

I do agree with more people talking. We've got heaps of time, but some people haven't been contributing at all.

apples. talk. your Gilly commands you to speak! Mad

[MENTION=8192]LuvDWayULie[/MENTION]; nonsense Wink you can do heaps of stuff! Well, maybe not to the point of throwing your vote around nilly willy like the previous day, but you at least kept some sort of linear thought process. Today you've only confirmed what we already knew.

We really shouldn't be assessing the outcome of someone's behaviour based on previous games, like someone else said, but to paraphrase Niernen (IIRC), we have more to lose if we lynch Meta straight away.

Regarding your edit, if everyone could say that and be honest, it wouldn't be much of a game now, would it? :p I'm not going to take that statement into account without more solid reasoning.

(also, irrelevant comment: I keep on reading your user as LuvDWayUDie... I've been watching too many horror game LPs Q n Q)

Current votes placed are:
Words(2): HolyPie, LuvDWayULie
CakesXD(1): Shidoshi

(Won't be posting very often soon, weekend's ending OTL)
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Kyrastri Wrote:MetaSeraphim;, Holy, what was the text that you got as a result for your investigations/spying? I'm curious to see what you guys got.

Result that I got on Words allude to the fact that while appearing to be a kind and caring apple was in fact not.


As for who we should check out TheBirds, z0mgc00k13 and CakesXD have been really inactive in this affair, and Words has gone completely silent.

And once Words is revealed to be mafia Olsi and CakesXD are already high on my list for their strange defending of Words on the first day.


For now the only 100% mafia member in my eyes is Words, so. . .


[Vote]Words
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Kyrastri Wrote:Aside from the possibility of Meta being mafia, how else are we 'playing into their hands'? Honestly curious to hear what you've got. We've got a while to go, like Luv's asserted, so I'm willing to take the risk on that gambit right now.

Worst case scenario: Inadvertently lynch Words, who was the doctor. Not very likely, granted, since the doctor would be playing low and Words would have defended him/herself better. Either Holy, insane/paranoid Meta or I die during the night since we no longer have a guard. Meta is wrongly lynched.

It's much more likely to lynch an innocent Words, proving that Meta is either lying, insane or paranoid. The check that we do night 2 will confirm at least one of those scenarios.

Best case scenario: Lynch a mafia Words. We now have 3 detectives, and we can now all investigate one person to confirm sanities.

I think the 'linear rush' is just reaching a conclusion where we're taking a gamble. Of course, if you have information you've been withholding until this point, I suggest you tell us Smile

I do agree with more people talking. We've got heaps of time, but some people haven't been contributing at all.

apples. talk. your Gilly commands you to speak! Mad

LuvDWayULie; nonsense Wink you can do heaps of stuff! Well, maybe not to the point of throwing your vote around nilly willy like the previous day, but you at least kept some sort of linear thought process. Today you've only confirmed what we already knew.

We really shouldn't be assessing the outcome of someone's behaviour based on previous games, like someone else said, but to paraphrase Niernen (IIRC), we have more to lose if we lynch Meta straight away.

Regarding your edit, if everyone could say that and be honest, it wouldn't be much of a game now, would it? :p I'm not going to take that statement into account without more solid reasoning.

(also, irrelevant comment: I keep on reading your user as LuvDWayUDie... I've been watching too many horror game LPs Q n Q)

Current votes placed are:
Words(2): HolyPie, LuvDWayULie
CakesXD(1): Shidoshi

(Won't be posting very often soon, weekend's ending OTL)
I know I can do heaps of stuff, I just dunno how Tongue

Well, about my edit, it's up to you to believe it Smile

Yeah, where are the other people? I swear there were more people than they are here.

[EDIT] Hahaha, Kyrastri, my username came from a song Big Grin
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MetaSeraphim Wrote:Result that I got on Words allude to the fact that while appearing to be a kind and caring apple was in fact not.


As for who we should check out TheBirds, z0mgc00k13 and CakesXD have been really inactive in this affair, and Words has gone completely silent.

And once Words is revealed to be mafia Olsi and CakesXD are already high on my list for their strange defending of Words on the first day.


For now the only 100% mafia member in my eyes is Words, so. . .


[Vote]Words

[MENTION=41]Holypie[/MENTION]; Looks like all three cops aren't getting solid answers so far. That might explain why there's three of us(?)

Looking at the previous game, TheBirds wasn't very active there, either, so it may be a case of inactivity due to RL commitments (I'd be questioning why they're playing at all if that's the case, but I digress)

Inactivity-wise, [MENTION=812]z0mgc00k13[/MENTION]; is really standing out to me. Mind explaining a bit? Nothing to post in general?

CakesXD has been posting a little, probably less than I'd like, but then again in the same vein I hardly posted on the first day as well, but was lurking on the thread. (y0y0 is really intimidating to me, okay ._. I felt like I was going to evoke some sort of wrath) Nevertheless, I do want to hear reasons on why mr dessert is on the watchlist.

Current Votes:
Words(3): Holypie, LuvDWayULie, MetaSeraphim
CakesXD(1): Shidoshi

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[MENTION=8192]LuvDWayULie[/MENTION]; \o/ join the club Big Grin Here at the "I have no idea what I'm doing" club, we sit around waffling around! Take a seat! Have some punch! But not fruit punch, god no, we're not filthy cannibals here. This is farmer punch. Rolleyes

And baby, I want to believe in you -cups chin- but alas, it cannot be~

"and so, LuvDWayULie and Kyrastri parted, ready to face off in another day in this cruel tree. fin"
(I have an... active imagination hush)
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Somehow, I have some suspicions over Shidoshi too. Again, it's based on my guts, and I can't explain why.
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edit 2 (because this comment doesn't warrant a new post): Yeah I know :3 I still misread it, even with that damn song in my head

EDIT: like the fucking genius I am

"because this comment doesn't warrant a new post"

MAKES A NEW POST FROM QUOTING MYSELF

>_>
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Yes, no fruit punches. I don't an apple to be sacrificed. Crow meat will be better Smile Rolleyes

Well, you can always check me Smile

Not until a crow appears, but LuvDWayULie and Kyrastri do not know who..
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For now I'll [vote]Words, Don't want to miss the cut off and I doubt something big could happen at this point to change everyone's mind.

[MENTION=8192]LuvDWayULie[/MENTION]; Even if your a regular villager, you can see how people are responding and try to figure out why they are acting a certain way and their possible role. Voting is not your only "power" (and jumping from vote to vote is generally seen in a bad light).



Also, fathers day, so probably can't get on much.
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Niernen Wrote:For now I'll [vote]Words, Don't want to miss the cut off and I doubt something big could happen at this point to change everyone's mind.

LuvDWayULie; Even if your a regular villager, you can see how people are responding and try to figure out why they are acting a certain way and their possible role. Voting is not your only "power" (and jumping from vote to vote is generally seen in a bad light).



Also, fathers day, so probably can't get on much.

Google says it's 6:22AM, Sunday PST time, so we've got 29 and a half hours roughly before cut-off. I'm still inclined to wait, given the day that we're given to keep discussing, but you're right. I can't really see this going much farther.

[Vote] Words

Current Votes:
Words(5): HolyPie, LuvDWayULie, MetaSeraphim, Niernen, Kyrastri
CakesXD(1): Shidoshi

Regardless, good night; I'm going to go sleep so don't go expecting frequent posts from me until tomorrow arvo :3
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Niernen Wrote:For now I'll [vote]Words, Don't want to miss the cut off and I doubt something big could happen at this point to change everyone's mind.

LuvDWayULie; Even if your a regular villager, you can see how people are responding and try to figure out why they are acting a certain way and their possible role. Voting is not your only "power" (and jumping from vote to vote is generally seen in a bad light).



Also, fathers day, so probably can't get on much.
This.

Well, trying now.
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MetaSeraphim Wrote:Result that I got on Words allude to the fact that while appearing to be a kind and caring apple was in fact not.


As for who we should check out TheBirds, z0mgc00k13 and CakesXD have been really inactive in this affair, and Words has gone completely silent.

And once Words is revealed to be mafia Olsi and CakesXD are already high on my list for their strange defending of Words on the first day.


For now the only 100% mafia member in my eyes is Words, so. . .


[Vote]Words

Maybe add corn to that list too? He has been largely quiet other than a little comment here or there.

I dont know if you can call what I was saying defending.

For now Words seems guilty beyond doubt and hasnt tried to defend himself since I mentioned him so im gonna [Vote]: Words
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