Item Drops and Finds Version 2 - Post BB

We needed you too.
Did Queen like 3x cuz we kept failing

FML, I totally forgot. I was playing my newly created Gunslinger for the char card
Damn, I also missed Hell Gollux today. I don't like this day at all.

You need to be alive when the boss is killed (or box clicked for Pierre/queen) to get instanced drops. Same goes for all other bosses.

not true; every chaos boss transports the entire party into a "loot room" as long as you do not resurrect outside. i only just killed chaos vellum, and now hearing about HIS difference. in each of the other three bosses a party member can be dead-ghost with 00 counter remaining, floating inside the boss fight, and get loots. personally uh "tested" witnessed

not true; every chaos boss transports the entire party into a "loot room" as long as you do not resurrect outside. i only just killed chaos vellum, and now hearing about HIS difference. in each of the other three bosses a party member can be dead-ghost with 00 counter remaining, floating inside the boss fight, and get loots. personally uh "tested" witnessed

No, it just auto-revives you if you're dead. There's no loot room. I learned this the hard way on the very first day of the instanced drop change. I brought in loot mules and had them all die. I was the only one that got any tops at all. For reference, my drop rate is such that I should get 5 per person every time.

It's also happened to at least one person one each of my Cvellum runs (minus today's, pineappleing finally ), and that person got no drops. Take what you will from this example as there's a good chance they would've gotten nothing anyway....

a party member can be dead-ghost with 00 counter remaining, floating inside the boss fight, and get loots. personally uh "tested" witnessed

They see the common loots. Nothing instanced.

No, it just auto-revives you if you're dead. There's no loot room. I learned this the hard way on the very first day of the instanced drop change. I brought in loot mules and had them all die. I was the only one that got any tops at all. For reference, my drop rate is such that I should get 5 per person every time.

It's also happened to at least one person one each of my Cvellum runs (minus today's, pineappleing finally ), and that person got no drops. Take what you will from this example as there's a good chance they would've gotten nothing anyway....

letting them die is not the same as using up all 5 lives; its hard to believe you brought in loot mules and had them each die 5 times so that the death counter went from 05 -> 00. you're saying you're mules did not get loot; i'm saying, as in my earlier comments; i DID get quote root abyss armor - non shared loot - drops quote. to say your mules did not get loot may be connected to some other factor.

i spoke about chaos vellum specifically being different because in a party of 6, three players had more than 01 lives, and three players had 00 death count; and none of us saw any quote root abyss armor - non shared loot - drops quote. this is inherently different from the other three bosses where at least the one person alive killing will see loot.

P.S. when talking about boss loots...OBVIOUSLY i mean the non generic ones... i mean come on, OBVIOUSLY. smh

letting them die is not the same as using up all 5 lives; its hard to believe you brought in loot mules and had them each die 5 times so that the death counter went from 05 -> 00. you're saying you're mules did not get loot; i'm saying, as in my earlier comments; i DID get quote root abyss armor - non shared loot - drops quote. to say your mules did not get loot may be connected to some other factor.

i spoke about chaos vellum specifically being different because in a party of 6, three players had more than 01 lives, and three players had 00 death count; and none of us saw any quote root abyss armor - non shared loot - drops quote. this is inherently different from the other three bosses where at least the one person alive killing will see loot.

P.S. when talking about boss loots...OBVIOUSLY i mean the non generic ones... i mean come on, OBVIOUSLY. smh

Killing queen/pierre will revive anyone dead in the map, yes. And those people WILL get drops from the chest, because, surprise! they're alive when the drops come out. In von bon and vellum, drops come out on kill and that's a different story. If you are dead when either of the latter two bosses die, you will not get any instanced drops. Unless it was changed recently, and I highly doubt that.

Killing queen/pierre will revive anyone dead in the map, yes. And those people WILL get drops from the chest, because, surprise! they're alive when the drops come out. In von bon and vellum, drops come out on kill and that's a different story. If you are dead when either of the latter two bosses die, you will not get any instanced drops. Unless it was changed recently, and I highly doubt that.

so you don't kill chaos RA every week? oh ok ic

so you don't kill chaos RA every week? oh ok ic

Generally, you don't try things that you feel will have negative consequences for you. Why would he let looters exhaust all their deaths every week when that has cost him drops in the past?

Generally, you don't try things that you feel will have negative consequences for you. Why would he let looters exhaust all their deaths every week when that has cost him drops in the past?

i run with guildies, not loot mules. they want to learn how to fight. things happen. it's difficult to prove lack of drops when they aren't 100%. i do not believe nexon is done adjusting loot rules, and i hope they can transfer the codes to include every boss. however, i will be instructing people not to spend their "01" life.

Uh, I'll just throw my tidbit here.

We went to chaos vellum last week. 1 person used up all their lives [he was at 00 and next message stated that he would be moved to town] while everyone had 01. We had 4 people in total. We got 1 ra wep drop at the end.

I don't know if this info helps or anything, just throwing it out there. Someone anaylyze it and tell me if this helps the discussion since I can't seem to wrap my head of what was being talked about in the last two pages.

I don't know if this info helps or anything, just throwing it out there. Someone anaylyze it and tell me if this helps the discussion since I can't seem to wrap my head of what was being talked about in the last two pages.

The discussion is about whether or not someone will get drops if they're dead when the drops drop. This really only applies at Von Bon and Vellum, since the other two have boxes rather than dropping things instantly upon death.

I suppose the same effect can be achieved by dying and then wheeling after V2, Empress, or CPB have died. It'd be more obvious as well, since the drop rate on those equips are much higher than Root Abyss stuff.

The discussion is about whether or not someone will get drops if they're dead when the drops drop. This really only applies at Von Bon and Vellum, since the other two have boxes rather than dropping things instantly upon death.

I suppose the same effect can be achieved by dying and then wheeling after V2, Empress, or CPB have died. It'd be more obvious as well, since the drop rate on those equips are much higher than Root Abyss stuff.

Oh that's easy, it's already happened before to my party members. They see the drops when they ae dead at empress [and v2s] and when they use a wheel they just loot them o.o

tops don't drop for the dead people when von bon is killed. weapons don't drop for the dead people when chaos vellum is killed. queen and clown can be killed while people are dead and they will get loots as long as they are in the map, alive before the chest is open. empress and magnus drops work differently.

Quickly blew up on 3rd enhance (Warrior cape).

Two fafnir daggers from cvellum

it's too far into this page without someone posting a superior item drop from gollux

got it today from the party commerci run

Hello, old friend...

not bad

I think my third SW Whip Blade? Might save it for Xenon, been toying around with the class lately, and it's kind of nice.