Super Smash Bros. Wii U and 3DS Discussion

The only new character that A) fits and B) is likely, imo, is lloyd. Everyone else can go suck a d'ick, except maybe palutena because i know literally nothing about how she would function as a fighting game character. Pac man, mii, anyone else from kid icarus, anyone else from metroid...like what. We don't have a dual wield character, and lloyd is an amazing fighter with a lot of skills, so there's a lot of potential for him as a character plus he's fair game unlike banjo kazooie or other rare intellectual property.

More new challengers only means existing characters are going to get chopped due to previously confirmed roster size limits, and that's something i guarantee no one wants to happen. (except maybe a choice few...pokemon trainer...)

The only new character that A) fits and B) is likely, imo, is lloyd. Everyone else can go suck a d'ick, except maybe palutena because i know literally nothing about how she would function as a fighting game character. Pac man, mii, anyone else from kid icarus, anyone else from metroid...like what. We don't have a dual wield character, and lloyd is an amazing fighter with a lot of skills, so there's a lot of potential for him as a character plus he's fair game unlike banjo kazooie or other rare intellectual property.

More new challengers only means existing characters are going to get chopped due to previously confirmed roster size limits, and that's something i guarantee no one wants to happen. (except maybe a choice few...pokemon trainer...)

What is the roaster size for SSB4? I hadn't actually seen it posted, but it'd be great to actually know it.

Also, agree with most of what you've said as far as additional character appearing in SSB4.

What is the roaster size for SSB4? I hadn't actually seen it posted, but it'd be great to actually know it.

Also, agree with most of what you've said as far as additional character appearing in SSB4.

He said it would be smaller than brawl, that's all we know. There's a whole mess of veterans that we haven't seen yet and apparently a million newcomers that are semi-confirmed according to people so who really knows.

He said it would be smaller than brawl, that's all we know. There's a whole mess of veterans that we haven't seen yet and apparently a million newcomers that are semi-confirmed according to people so who really knows.

So, in theory, we're looking at something like 28-32ish characters, or so?

It'll be interesting to see who all gets put in.

My mind is failing to process the idea of Pac-Man as a playable character in Smash Bros.
It doesn't really make any sense, because what else would he do other than eat other characters? and there are already 2 characters that do that.

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Plz plz plz Bayonetta

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The only new character that A) fits and B) is likely, imo, is lloyd. Everyone else can go suck a d'ick, except maybe palutena because i know literally nothing about how she would function as a fighting game character. Pac man, mii, anyone else from kid icarus, anyone else from metroid...like what. We don't have a dual wield character, and lloyd is an amazing fighter with a lot of skills, so there's a lot of potential for him as a character plus he's fair game unlike banjo kazooie or other rare intellectual property.

More new challengers only means existing characters are going to get chopped due to previously confirmed roster size limits, and that's something i guarantee no one wants to happen. (except maybe a choice few...pokemon trainer...)

You have NO CLUE how much i want a golden sun character, even more so with isaac being an assist trophy in the previous game

Last I heard was because Pac-Man is also a very popular gaming icon and with having Mario and Sonic around, Pac-Man would be apparently completing the gaming trifecta, which I don't understand. Pac-Man is far older than those two (maybe a bit younger than Mario) and I just don't see the connection.

I always considered the trifecta to be Mario, Sonic and Mega Man. Pac Man is hardly even considered a game compared to Mario or Sonic. sure it's nostalgia filled, but that doesn't give him any personality or distinguishable character traits like the above mentioned 3.

They did an amazing job of giving Mr. Game and Watch a "personality" due to the various games he starred in and the different skills he had, but I doubt that would work for Pac Man, who is very much a one-trick pony. (not counting the 3D pac man world games..)

As long as we dont go the capcomVSwhatever and put pacman in a giant rovot

No way will this have less characters than brawl.

"The reality of the situation unfortunately is that there are certain limitations on the 3DS. So we're forced into the situation where we may need to reduce some characters to a certain degree, but we're really working hard in order to include as many characters as possible." - Sakurai, E3 2013

was somehow read as 'smaller roster' than brawl, which is stupid. It's almost certainly just the ice climbers causing issues trying to render 8 playable characters at once on the 3ds.

No way in hell are there less than 12 characters left to announce.

Pic of the day. The twin grannies, Kotake and Koume, appear in Gerudo Valley! They're definitely up to no good.

There is at least an unfilled niche for a pure type non evolving, non legendary pokemon in some lines that don't have a representative. As far as I can remember, Ghost, dark (Since absol now mega evolves), fairy,steel,dragon,rock,ground,grass,and flying all lack a pokemon in that category. That's roughly half the types (if I'm remembering rightly).

Druddigon? Easily forgotten in his mediocrity.

<33333 Gerudo Valley stage, especially if the music is done properly.

No way will this have less characters than brawl.


was somehow read as 'smaller roster' than brawl, which is stupid. It's almost certainly just the ice climbers causing issues trying to render 8 playable characters at once on the 3ds.

No way in hell are there less than 12 characters left to announce.

That and I'm also thinking Sheik may not be in the game.

That and I'm also thinking Sheik may not be in the game.

Why Sheik? Irrelevance as a nintendo character isn't really an argument given they're still bothering to put starfox characters in (lol).

Seriously though, Captain falcon, Jigglypuff, Game and watch, Ness, Wario, Yoshi. are all absolute guarantees to be in.

Ganondorf and Ike are either going to be in, or replaced with an equivilant character from the same universe.

Zero suit samus and/or Ridley are going to be in.

I have serious doubts that both falco and wolf will be cut, though which one stays is another question (probably falco).

Pacman and mii are all but confirmed from the e3 leak that got 4 of the 5 current newcomers announced.

Kid icarus is getting a second rep from uprising. And since takebacker doesn't seem to play any other nintendo games, Hades was the main bad guy for the game, Magnus was an ally/playable character/boss fight for several parts of the game, and a boss. Palutena is slightly more likely to be chosen, I suppose, but smash bros could really do with more nintendo villains too. (Since any significant story mode is all but confirmed gone).

It's also really hard to imagine at least one of Xenoblade/Golden sun not getting a rep this time. Shulk with a bunch of transforming sword attacks with the monado or Isaac with psyenergy should both really be easy characters to design.

Ridley

Lol'd.

I do want to see golden sun representation, i just don't know it's all going to happen with the tons of names already in the air.

Know what, we've overdone the character thing.

Lets talk music instead. Nintendo's been running from one godly soundtrack to another recently, and if we're lucky smash bros will have a whole massive collection of them again.

Here's a few I hope make it in. (Trying to restrain myself and only pick one from each game for now, so I don't take all the good ones!)
Kid icarus : Boss battle 1
Link between worlds: Final Boss battle.
MArio and Luigi 3: Bowsers inside story VS Dark Bowser. (Prime cut A Grade final boss, baby!)
Xenoblade: Unfinished battle.

What other music do you people want to have in the game?

The golden sun medley was awesome, dont think anything else from gs could compare, from pokemon id like the lysandre boss fight theme. Maybe the mewtwo remix.

And brawls music was superb, all of it downloaded in my ipod. Although i dont like dk music much (or the character honestly)

Although i dont like dk music much (or the character honestly)

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Some are nice like this one, but the more tropical ones i cant stand

Pic of the day. The Bumper is back with a detailed new design. This also means there will be no Flippers.