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I am not 100% on this but...
If have a L-ele wand it seems like dropping cold beam would be well worth it-
You could feasibly be bossing with a good slow and Thunderspear, especially on Lightning weak bosses (HH is right?) The 1.25 from the wand and the 1.50 from the bosses would just rock.Glitter
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Chompy Wrote:I am not 100% on this but...
If have a L-ele wand it seems like dropping cold beam would be well worth it-
You could feasibly be bossing with a good slow and Thunderspear, especially on Lightning weak bosses (HH is right?) The 1.25 from the wand and the 1.50 from the bosses would just rock.Glitter

...thunderspear? People still max thunderspear? Well I guess it could come in handy if you never find a chain lightning 30 skillbook or something. But then again chain lightning already has a higher DPS then tspear at level 10.

same goes for cold beam. anyone can blast through 2nd job now. lightning bolt a place with thick mobs is all you need. even if you drop cold beam, it not a disadvantage at all. mages don't deal much damage at bosses anyway and most dont boss until 9x and 10x. by then you should have a decent level of i/l compo arrow.
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Ok, so I've decided to drop Cold Beam and probably TSpear, maybe Comp instead. One of the two. Does Comp have any advantages over TSpear, other than freezing, with a Lightning wand?
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Dusk Wrote:Ok, so I've decided to drop Cold Beam and probably TSpear, maybe Comp instead. One of the two. Does Comp have any advantages over TSpear, other than freezing, with a Lightning wand?

I would argue that since comp is 50/50 for each element. T-spear would be the FAR better choice with a L-ele wand.
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alright so heres my plan. im going the low-luck route and i just need some opinions on my skill build.

2nd Job
MP Eater - 3
Medi - 20(max)
Slow - 20(max)
Teleport - 18
FA - 30(max)
PB - 30(max)

3rd Job
Partial - 19
Ele Amp - 30(max)
Explosion - 30(max)
Poison Mist - 30(max)
Seal - 20(max)
Magic Booster - 20(max)
Comp - 0

2 points from my 3rd job will go into maxing Tele. Im just wondering if 18 tele will hurt me down the road, until i hit 4th.

Also since im already here and posting. Im just wondering where a level 42 f/p low luck wizard can train. I sorta transfer between junior wraiths and junior grupins. Is there another place i can train? or are they my only options at the moment.
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lil_fudgeeo Wrote:alright so heres my plan. im going the low-luck route and i just need some opinions on my skill build.

2nd Job
MP Eater - 3
Medi - 20(max)
Slow - 20(max)
Teleport - 18
FA - 30(max)
PB - 30(max)

3rd Job
Partial - 19
Ele Amp - 30(max)
Explosion - 30(max)
Poison Mist - 30(max)
Seal - 20(max)
Magic Booster - 20(max)
Comp - 0

2 points from my 3rd job will go into maxing Tele. Im just wondering if 18 tele will hurt me down the road, until i hit 4th.

Also since im already here and posting. Im just wondering where a level 42 f/p low luck wizard can train. I sorta transfer between junior wraiths and junior grupins. Is there another place i can train? or are they my only options at the moment.
I would level Mist at 28 and/or explosion at 28 (they don't really add anything) Where you put those other 2/4 points is :f6:
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Why are you going low-luck and what is your luk cap and for what reason are you capping there?
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The thing is i sorta made my decision late and i just didnt have the drive to start all over again so i capped my luk at 36. And i need to stay there since ive already started scrolling my chaos, my lutia and my jester. I think i'll be alright though. A lot of mesos were spent so might as well stay where im at.

Hmm thanks for the input.

Ill leave mist at 28 and max partial and teleport. If i have any left over it'll go into comp
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Chompy Wrote:I am not 100% on this but...
If have a L-ele wand it seems like dropping cold beam would be well worth it-
You could feasibly be bossing with a good slow and Thunderspear, especially on Lightning weak bosses (HH is right?) The 1.25 from the wand and the 1.50 from the bosses would just rock.Glitter

Thunderspear will be stronger than comp and cold beam if you have a lightning weapon, so definitely drop both those two unless you think you need the single-target freeze.

lil_fudgeeo Wrote:alright so heres my plan. im going the low-luck route and i just need some opinions on my skill build.

2nd Job
MP Eater - 3
Medi - 20(max)
Slow - 20(max)
Teleport - 18
FA - 30(max)
PB - 30(max)

3rd Job
Partial - 19
Ele Amp - 30(max)
Explosion - 30(max)
Poison Mist - 30(max)
Seal - 20(max)
Magic Booster - 20(max)
Comp - 0

2 points from my 3rd job will go into maxing Tele. Im just wondering if 18 tele will hurt me down the road, until i hit 4th.

Also since im already here and posting. Im just wondering where a level 42 f/p low luck wizard can train. I sorta transfer between junior wraiths and junior grupins. Is there another place i can train? or are they my only options at the moment.

You'll want teleport maxed so that you can go the farthest range possible. Consider dropping 2 points from brace, which won't affect your brace training much, if at all. If you really want max brace, drop the points off slow, then add them back in with the extra 3rd job points.
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I want to ask if I should transition training spots now since I got major upgrades during the past 2 levels.

From 121 to now, Ive been meteoing Blue Wyverns for some OK EXP, and raised Meteo to 6 in the process (passed Meteo 20 a week ago). I also made a major upgrade to my weapon from a 116/9 Codar to a 129/9 Level 103 Poison Staff (both self-scrolled).

Ive tested Newts, and seems like I can 3-hit them about 95% of the time (there's the occasional straggler, not counting the transformed ones). BUT one major problem is that I have no Elquines ATM, and I plan to dump my next 3 SP into that next level. For now, Paralyze kinda does the work.

So should I transition to Newties?
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Cyanne Wrote:You'll want teleport maxed so that you can go the farthest range possible. Consider dropping 2 points from brace, which won't affect your brace training much, if at all. If you really want max brace, drop the points off slow, then add them back in with the extra 3rd job points.

I read in a guide somewhere (forgot whose guide it was) that i'd have trouble killing some of the higher leveled baddies with 28 brace since 28 just wasn't enough to drain the left over hp. so i was like "hmm i don't wanna have trouble i wanna kill everrrrrrrrrything" so thats when i decided i wanted to max both of 'em. I believe the monster he/she mentioned was a grim phantom watch or a master death teddy if my memory serves me right. Not 100% sure.

Im the kind of player who travels all over if i get bored of a spot. Like ill train 10% at this place then ill train for another 10% at this place, and so on. So i sort of want to be able to train wherever i can. Im crazy like that Tongue

EDIT: I remember now, it was thunderstrike's guide

Quote:One note: MDTs have quite a bit of HP leftover after poison if you only have level 28 Brace, so it isn’t recommended unless the skill is maxed.

and i will consider dropping slow by a few points, now that i think about it, tele does make things a whole lot easier

thanks for all the input folks
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I can't find the 4th job HOW TO GET/QUESTS thread-
So how do I get Genesis?
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Chompy Wrote:I can't find the 4th job HOW TO GET/QUESTS thread-
So how do I get Genesis?

http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2
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I JUST leveled to 121-Glitter
I have 819 magic (with Medi), lvl 1 Gen, Res, and AR.
And a Seal mule.
I want to increase my damage-
What would gimme more damage:
3 MWGlitter
or
3 more in GENGlitter
...
Also I am hitting 17-22K So will the GEN change my 4 hits to sometimes 3 hits?
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I'm level 73 hella bored with my mage... I have enough nx to get me like 100 hours of 2x and level me to 9x or something like that but...... I do low damage and it's not fun training at hoodoos.
Any other good exp places? I tried windraiders?, but I have to ice beam them to kill them fast. Unlike thunderbolt can 2 hit ko hoodoos and mob.
Also shoul I get a z-helm for my mage or hermit.
Are kents really good as people say they are because i'm planing on going there at level 75
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kingdj333 Wrote:I'm level 73 hella bored with my mage... I have enough nx to get me like 100 hours of 2x and level me to 9x or something like that but...... I do low damage and it's not fun training at hoodoos.
Any other good exp places? I tried windraiders?, but I have to ice beam them to kill them fast. Unlike thunderbolt can 2 hit ko hoodoos and mob.
Also shoul I get a z-helm for my mage or hermit.
Are kents really good as people say they are because i'm planing on going there at level 75

voo/hoodoo till 75... ino its hell. srry T_T
75-80 ws good exp and money
80-90 kents
90-100 red wyverns
100 top right of newties.

helm ur mage. it will get fun after 75<3.
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SekushiKun Wrote:voo/hoodoo till 75... ino its hell. srry T_T
75-80 ws good exp and money
80-90 kents
90-100 red wyverns
100 top right of newties.

helm ur mage. it will get fun after 75<3.

yeah I already know that path alredy... Is MPQ better then v/hoodoos by any chance it seems fun and I wanna try it....
Also gettin 100k nx should I 2x with it or smega.... again:f6:
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kingdj333 Wrote:yeah I already know that path alredy... Is MPQ better then v/hoodoos by any chance it seems fun and I wanna try it....
Also gettin 100k nx should I 2x with it or smega.... again:f6:

MPQ requires mages and I/Ls are great for just Freezing in the boss room-
But I have heard that it is a hassle to find a decent party-
WIth 2x training will be faster though.
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MPQ is pretty good around your level for exp...I think I was getting like 10%/pq on my lvl 73 hermit and usually they last about 25-30 minutes. It's only hard to find a party to go with sometimes if you are NOT a mage (lol) since they seem to be lacking for this pq. And by now most people know what they are doing so I'd try it out if I were you.
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Chompy Wrote:MPQ requires mages and I/Ls are great for just Freezing in the boss room-
But I have heard that it is a hassle to find a decent party-
WIth 2x training will be faster though.

Yea, I'm pretty sure anything is faster than voo/hoo at lvl 70-75 but thats just me. After 75 I'm sure training is faster.
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So I should Mpq until level 75 then go to WS? lol I havent leveled my mage in about 9 months so idk wtp Im doing xD
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