KhainiWest Wrote:Being comfortable with your sexuality doesn't mean flaunting it as if it's the only quality about you worth mentioning, and you're saying an open homosexual is not informed abou the issues? In a forum where majority, all but two I believe, moderators are in fact open homosexuals, who are in fact adults.
Look at our f`ucking admin, look at his posts, do any of them have this "I'm entitled to let everyone know I'm gay", no. Do you see him banning people using the word "f`aggot", no, do you see him prosecuting anyone who uses the word? F`ucking no.
Flaunting? It's ironic you say that when a huge amount of heterosexuals want to have women they're attracted to but if a gay guy does it automatically like, NOPE!!!! Open homosexuals
can not know anything about the issues regarding the lgbtq+ community. There's a large amount of homosexuals in fact that ignore everything in that set that isn't gay. When did I ever say anything about banning people for being gay? I just said that using the term f'aggot as anything outside of the lgbtq+ community is stupid and you shouldn't do it.
People stopped bothering with talking about it because you people want to try and rationalize using a slur with a century long history of abuse. I assumed that the guy I was talking to would understand?? But seemingly not because all you breeders can't seem to understand that you can't just change a word that is known as offensive in the majority of the world and expect no one to not be offended by it. I would've stopped really if he didn't start crying "but i love the gays!!!"
Really, if you ask me, shame on other people claiming to support all of lgbtq+ rights but letting slurs like f'aggot continue to be said by complete trashy excuses for humans but okay.
KhainiWest Wrote:You're not black so you can't understand racism
You're not in North Korea so ou can't understand oppression
You weren't in a war and cannot understand death
I don't go to church so I can' understand god
These concepts are the most retarded juvenile excuses for lack of argument any person cornered can come up with. I live in Italy during the time they didn't want americans there, they had rallies and any house that was seen american was vandalized. But no, I can't understand homosexual prejudice.
If you aren't a POC you will never truly understand racism at least from a Western standpoint. Never.
What? Do you know what you're talking about in the second line?
I can feel the fedora in this post.
All of these are unrelated and happened through different mediums. Social mechanics can't be explained like that especially when they're so unrelated. Aw bawww awww baby got called a dirty American in Italy, please shut up. You suddenly have the right to find someone weak for having their entire identity be based around a slur they were called throughout the majority of their early life? Please go reevaluate yourself. People have been beaten to death while this word was constantly said. It's not even in the past. People are still being beaten and abused because of them being gay. And you find it strange that someone would find being gay a large part of their identity?
KhainiWest Wrote:e_e I'm not blaming the community, I'm blaming who I am quoting for christ sake. You exaggerate, online, your personal identity of being homosexual. You have no depth, you have no contribution, you're just the gay guy in a website that is majority Gay. Do you know how pathetic that is? The community you're trying to speak on behalf of doesn't accept your behavior.
Exaggerate? I'm gay and it's not exaggerated in real life. I will burn your ass if you say anything as trashy as what you're saying now in regards to identity and its relation to the lgbtq+ community. The majority of this website isn't gay, I'm sure of that. Me being gay as nothing to do with everyone hating the DFOS members? When did I ever claim that? Please, you are the one exaggerating my explanation for being gay and its relation to one's identity.
KhainiWest Wrote:And in the 90's dork/nerd were derogatories. I posted the history of the word because people were using half assed information. That's all it was, fu`cking data. BUT BECAUSE YOU'RE MELODRAMATIC, you read it as a statement of my opinion. My advice for all of you is when you give a word power, to yourself, you perpetuate the problem.
Are you pineappleing kidding me. You're comparing being a nerd to being called a f'aggot? Are all breeders just f'ucking retarded?
It's not even about giving the word pineappleing power. That word has history. Words have power objectively especially in regards to human beings. You wanna talk about race, you are acting like one of the moderate whites that civil rights leaders had to face during their movement. You try to deny that the majority isn't biased or bigoted and blame it on the victims for being too "offended"
KhainiWest Wrote:The victimization I was referring too earlier, is not even related to this, it was the fact you kept reading my posts and zoned in specifically on anything you deem offensive and label it flaming, make a point of it, then continue on with no contribution to my actual points. I don't care about this discussion of it, I'm just giving you the proper action to take against it.
Be honest, how many times have you had this conversation over this word with peers? How many times have you had this debate, and how many times have they essentially saying you're melodramatic and exaggerating? Do you not realize the vicous circle of not only redudancy but wasted breath when you sit here trying to convince people that the bb gun you were just shot with was actually a REX bullet? You won't get anything out of that nonsense
Zoning in on flaming? You were attacking Hishotodo's diction and making arguments based on adhominem. Wipe your cheeto stains off your double chin and look at yourself before you start attacking others. I've had to debate constantly with my peers and they seem to get it? It's not a hard concept. Don't use a word with a terrible history behind it if you aren't apart of the victims.
What I'm getting out of this is:
1) You are openly admitting that you want to deny the oppression that comes along with this word.
2) You are hypocritically attacking my form of argument when you want to focus on diction in an arguemtn
3) You're incredibly priviliged and want to make a "moderate 1950s white male" argument in regards to racial issues.
KhainiWest Wrote:On an open forum where every post is documented, context doesn't matter? Yeah okay. Let's just put that on the words never to say again, because that's not an unrealistic standard.
I find it adorable you are simply paraphrasing what I told you in the IRC.
It doesn't. What does every post being documented have to do with anything? You're talking about a word and using real life sources and data and want to only talk about "what i meant right there and there" That word has a long, terrible history. I don't like that word. And I get a pineapple you for being weak enough for finding it offensive? Yeah, ok, call a black dude a n'igger and when he gets mad call him weak for saying that him being black is his identity. Don't even try to say that pomegranate like blacks can't hide it. Sexuality is almost a hard to conceal also.
I wasn't even in the IRC. Get your facts straight.