Does anyone know if Nexon's currently on holidays?

it unlikely there will be a rollback tho cuz nexon remove all shop from cs and that why there most likely be no rollback

cuz hacker cant sell w/o shop even if they dupe

It's not unlikely at all, it's inevitable. It's going to happen. They removed shops which means only new people can't participate in the dupe. That doesn't stop people that already have shops from using it and/or selling items which they got through the dupe.

Not to mention it was already heavily used and exploited before the shop removal. You can find thousands of duped items in dozens of stores on just about every server.

And now there's some sort of Yut Coin Exploit out. Great.

And now there's some sort of Yut Coin Exploit out. Great.

Is there anything good in the yut coin shop anyway?
(and by that I mean, anything ridiculously damaging to the economy)

On a side note, im surprised the game hasn't been taken down yet; They should AT LEAST have someone with the authority to take the game down if need be, even if most are on holiday; or pineapple, give the supervisor a phone call.

And now there's some sort of Yut Coin Exploit out. Great.

Shows how much Nexon learned from the Red Coin exploit.. The method is exactly similar to that aforementioned Red Coin exploit. Way to go!

Sadly it seems like I better stay away from Maple, at least until the Noxon Employees return and rollback all the things.

it unlikely there will be a rollback tho cuz nexon remove all shop from cs and that why there most likely be no rollback

cuz hacker cant sell w/o shop even if they dupe

We're talking about hackers here, removing Shop Permits from the Cash Shop won't stop a hacker.

Is there anything good in the yut coin shop anyway?
(and by that I mean, anything ridiculously damaging to the economy)

I have no clue. I haven't done a single thing on MS since I heard about the dupe going public.

It's not unlikely at all, it's inevitable. It's going to happen. They removed shops which means only new people can't participate in the dupe. That doesn't stop people that already have shops from using it and/or selling items which they got through the dupe.

Not to mention it was already heavily used and exploited before the shop removal. You can find thousands of duped items in dozens of stores on just about every server.

not this one isn't as big as last one if they xfer those item to the one who already got the shop they are risking that account to get banned and most the time they use fresh account but this time they would have to give to their friend or use their old acc that had a shop active

atm I don't see a lot of cheap item in fm they pc is kinda stable and balance I don't see ton of cheap no boom aee or nebulite in fm that so easy to get

if possible can you show some ss on the owl? that it like 100mil each or less in fm

so it unlikely they would rollback

im sure this time they going to use this method...

1. USC
2. Patch the Exploit and Hack
3. Ban the hacker
4. Ban anyone that sell those dupe item
5. Delete all item that has been dupe

yea I know not all hacker going to get banned and some item going to get away too

They can dupe 10b mesos + 25 slots worth of items every time they do this.

The problem is, every time they dupe, 10 billion mesos enter the economy. And during this time the dupe has been public, that would account all together for an unimaginably huge amount of mesos. Therefore, there's really no other choice than to rollback. And even if the items are on those hackers and not in FM, they would slowly come up into their merchs, and thus enter the economy. So that rollback really is inevitable in this case, no matter how are you trying to see this...

Is there anything good in the yut coin shop anyway?
(and by that I mean, anything ridiculously damaging to the economy)

On a side note, im surprised the game hasn't been taken down yet; They should AT LEAST have someone with the authority to take the game down if need be, even if most are on holiday; or pineapple, give the supervisor a phone call.

http://grab.by/tdcM - Use
http://grab.by/tdcO - Misc tab
http://grab.by/tdcQ - Special tab
http://grab.by/tdcS - Equip tab

Nothing amazing, most items have purchase limits, aside from AEEs. You can buy infinite amounts of those, all untradeable though.

Okay, so basically... don't play until pomegranate is fixed, right?

it unlikely there will be a rollback tho cuz nexon remove all shop from cs and that why there most likely be no rollback

cuz hacker cant sell w/o shop even if they dupe

How exactly is "removing the shops" justification for no rollback? I'm not even sure what they expected to accomplish there, except stopping BRAND new accounts from using them. Now the brand new accounts can just transfer stuff to the older ones that already have shops, it overall accomplishes nothing.

Why would they sell things when they can just dupe meso?

The way I figure: When you dupe anything, but don't transfer it, it's easy to handle. If all dupers never sold or transferred anything they duped, then it's pretty easy to deal with because things that are duped are owned by only hackers. On the other hand, there are people who just happen by something duped, and buy it without realizing that it was duped (There are things that are obviously duped, and then there are things that are not). These people are far more common than you think. Now a large portion of the population has been infected. It's much harder to handle it now, increasing the chances that Nexon doesn't properly handle the issue. Expecting to come out of a dupefest with EVERYTHING you duped is stupid, but in more than one example (recent example, even), not everything was removed.

Include the fact that legit players have been infected by duped items. They can't just ban everyone that has something duped, because then they'll be chasing away customers by banning them for something they didn't do. They didn't dupe, and there's a possibility they don't even know they have a duped item (ignorance is bliss). Nexon's deletion of duped items fails horribly on most occasions, so in the end by selling they increase the chances of keeping things they duped when Nexon fu'cks up later this week in their attempt to fix it.


As another note, the fact that a MASSIVE duping hack like this appears right when Nexon goes on vacation (as they always do around this time of the year) is far too coincidental. It was likely planned. This exploit has probably existed for some time and the discoverer(s) of it took advantage of it at a time where it's expected that no support would come for far too long, far longer than it would be to safely rollback without angering the paying players. I doubt Nexon will do a week+ rollback. The longer it takes for them to respond the more likely the chance they won't rollback at all, and attempt to fix the issue the old fashioned way (which they suck at).

1 hour until we hit the 24 hour mark of it being released... I think it might be too late for a rollback at this point; people will peach and moan way too much if they rollback 24+ hours (not that they won't if it's any less than that, but the longer they wait the worse it will become).

It's catch-22. You could also say that the longer they leave the game up, the more a rollback is necessary due to the massive influx of duped items & mesos and the amount of "legit" players "infected". The longer they leave it up, the more clean up they have to do, and we all know how that ended up last time (hours of trying to clean up, then giving up and going with RB).

I'd gladly lose some progress on my characters so abusers can lose their items and people can get banned. (even if its only 10% of the people involved ._.)

I just don't want this pall of 'everything i do now is pointless' over this game any longer zzz

How exactly is "removing the shops" justification for no rollback? I'm not even sure what they expected to accomplish there, except stopping BRAND new accounts from using them. Now the brand new accounts can just transfer stuff to the older ones that already have shops, it overall accomplishes nothing.

well what the point of removing the shops if they going to rollback?

and using old account that has the shop will get you banned and then u lose another shop and how do u going to get more shop?

they don't have infinity shop ready cuz this is the first time nexon remove all shop im pretty sure hacker wasn't prepare

and this morning all the hacker that was selling dupe item got banned and their shop got remove and lingered in fm when using owl

so you will end up so hard to sell the item cuz every time u sell nexon ban the shop and u and that mean less shop for you cuz u cant get more unless you got like 50 shop ready and prepare it highly unlikely

Here we go again lmao.
Did this sort of thing happen in the KMS servers also when it was released?

I got question I heard from my friend that the hack is patch is it true? can you patch a hack w/o restarting the server?

I got question I heard from my friend that the hack is patch is it true? can you patch a hack w/o restarting the server?

I believe they can implement hotfixes with a cash shop maintenance, but I have no idea if they did one or not.