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I wouldn't say that just yet. It's in our data now. There's no telling what NexonNA could do at this point.

Then again, Additional Options is in our data too, but we're not getting that. So is a lot of things.

Then again, Additional Options is in our data too, but we're not getting that. So is a lot of things.

That's why I made the comment about there's no telling what NexonNA could do. They could implement MEEs soon, way later, or never.

Yes, just because stuff was added to the data doesn't mean we're 100% getting it, but this would be far from the first time in where we'd get stuff added to the data and then NexonNA releases it months later down the road. Remember KMS Fantasy Theme World? We got the data for all of that 3 months before it was actually released in GMS.

So...am I the only one stocking up on unique/ scrolled empress gear from just in case you can use any class to get stats on sweeterwater?

Still not clue how the pineapple a top and bottom becomes an overall...

Also, any confirmation that alien stuff can transfer stats? Because...I want my alien helm not to be useless F4 It has great potential and scrolled well and it would be a shame if it just becomes a useless novelty item...[it's usefullness has already died down due to gollux set taking up an earring slot @_@]

So anyway, here's someone who actually upgraded their Swingwater/Sweetwater stuff

http://kirei38.blog24.fc2.com/blog-entry-96.html

It just gets all the stats from the original item, the upgrade item, above its average stats, overriding whatever above average stats your Sweetwater item has and consuming all the slots the Sweetwater item has. (Probably to stop you from scrolling your Sweetwater and then trying to get additional attack from an upgrade)

Oh, and in case you were thinking of just passing on the potential rank of an item, you must have exhausted all slots on your upgrade item before you can use it as an upgrade item, so it's all or nothing, basically. You can still innocence it after to rescroll, I guess, but you'll still lose the above stats on your Sweetwater if you want the potential rank, but like they say, it becomes untradeable after upgrading, so you'd have to like scroll with CS scrolls. Better to just scroll the upgraded item perfectly and transfer it with rank.

Also it costs 10 Commerci Gold (Commerci Denaro?) to upgrade, and there's a possibility of failure. Both items will be preserved on failure, but if it succeeds, again, your original item, the one whose stats you'll be using to upgrade the Sweetwater item, will be destroyed.

there's a possibility of failure

Both items will be preserved on failure

Well that was a heart attack and a half

This information also confirms what i thought about there being a difference between faf and emp sets. People be hoarding unique/leg emp should be getting faf instead because of %pdr on armors.

Upon transferring stats, the nebulite will also be carried over.

Omg yesss

And wiping the nebulite.

I'm also fairly certain it will wipe the nebulite still waiting for a better nebulite diffuser CS item that lets you keep the neb after reopening the socket

Upon transferring stats, the nebulite will also be carried over.

So anyway, here's someone who actually upgraded their Swingwater/Sweetwater stuff

http://kirei38.blog24.fc2.com/blog-entry-96.html

It just gets all the stats from the original item, the upgrade item, above its average stats, overriding whatever above average stats your Sweetwater item has.

Oh, and in case you were thinking of just passing on the potential rank of an item, you must have exhausted all slots on your upgrade item before you can use it as an upgrade item, so it's all or nothing, basically.

Also it costs 10 Commerci Gold (Commerci Denaro?) to upgrade, and there's a possibility of failure. Both items will be preserved on failure, but if it succeeds, again, your original item, the one whose stats you'll be using to upgrade the Sweetwater item, will be destroyed.

Dude.

You are fucking awesome.

Thank you for all the info!

BTW any word how fafnir top and bottom work inall of this?

BTW any word how fafnir top and bottom work inall of this?

Haven't seen anything so far, sorry. I'm assuming they don't, since they make it a point to mention that you can only transfer to and from items of the same type.

This information also confirms what i thought about there being a difference between faf and emp sets. People be hoarding unique/leg emp should be getting faf instead because of %pdr on armors.

Except you wouldn't get the % Ignore DEF because that's a stat the item has on average (It's not 5% (0 + 5) or 10% (0 + 10), it's just 5% and 10%). You can only transfer the above average stats.

Haven't seen anything so far, sorry. I'm assuming they don't, since they make it a point to mention that you can only transfer to and from items of the same type.



Except you wouldn't get the % Ignore DEF because that a stat the item has on average (It's not 5% (0 + 5) or 10% (0 + 10), it's just 5% and 10%). You can only transfer the above average stats.

Allright. I'll be the guy wo asks the question most people are thinking.

Just from you skimming the info, [your personal opinion 100% not expecting any concrete answers], can you justify turning a root abyss set piece into sweetwater instead of a empress gear? Because what you just said seems like empress would be best due to cost efficiency and ease of acess.

Haven't seen anything so far, sorry. I'm assuming they don't, since they make it a point to mention that you can only transfer to and from items of the same type.

So then overalls (and maybe gloves?) would be better off not transferring and scrolling from clean?

Except you wouldn't get the % Ignore DEF because that a stat the item has on average (It's not 5% (0 + 5) or 10% (0 + 10), it's just 5% and 10%). You can only transfer the above average stats.

...Well that really kills it for me. Like tigeon, what's the point of transferring if i have faf+tyrant?

Allright. I'll be the guy wo asks the question most people are thinking.

Just from you skimming the info, [your personal opinion 100% not expecting any concrete answers], can you justify turning a root abyss set piece into sweetwater instead of a empress gear? Because what you just said seems like empress would be best due to cost efficiency and ease of acess.

Unless they have a special exception for RA stuff, I don't see any reason why you would use them for this. I'm guessing the 150 set they had in mind in development was not Root Abyss.

So then overalls (and maybe gloves?) would be better off not transferring and scrolling from clean?

Overalls would be great to transfer too, I suppose, from an Empress overall, since the Sweetwater overall doesn't have any attack. Gloves should be fine too. I guess one of the reasons they took out the leveling system was so that they didn't have to worry about upgrading wiping your level stats. So, the Sweetwater gloves are like 22atk clean now.

Oh also, if I understand correctly, Grosso Polpo drops the armor while Livyatan drops the weapons. Grosso Polpo is involved in a quest (which awards you one occult cube if you complete it), and presumably you can do it any time afterwards. You have to complete 10 trades with Dolce and 15 trades with Luna before you can get to Rosa, on those trades Grosso Polpo can spawn. I have no info on Livyatan.

Unless they have a special exception for RA stuff, I don't see any reason why you would use them for this. I'm guessing the 150 set they had in mind in development was not Root Abyss.



Overalls would be great to transfer too, I suppose, from an Empress overall, since the Sweetwater overall doesn't have any attack. Gloves should be fine too. I guess one of the reasons they took out the leveling system was so that they didn't have to worry about upgrading wiping your level stats. So, the Sweetwater gloves are like 22atk clean now.

Thanks for your input!
-Buys all the unique and scrolled empress in the market-

IDK if cms has sengoku equips, but with this update they might see some life...

Just read site. RA top and bottom cannot be combined so emp overalls only.

Also, 80% and 90% scrolls out. Looks like #mirabellemasterstrategist to me.

Just gonna sit back silently and watch you guys eat your pineappling words. You know who you are and that's it on the subject.

Also, I believe i'm getting a free tyrant box. I forgot how much i spent....

Just gonna bide time and enjoy the boats...

Just read site. RA top and bottom cannot be combined so emp overalls only.

Also, 80% and 90% scrolls out. Looks like #mirabellemasterstrategist to me.

Just gonna sit back silently and watch you guys eat your pineappling words. You know who you are and that's it on the subject.

Also, I believe i'm getting a free tyrant box. I forgot how much i spent....

Just gonna bide time and enjoy the boats...

I'll say this again:

if you're trying to instigate an argument, you're doing very well.

I'll say this again:

if you're trying to instigate an argument, you're doing very well.

Eh most of us are too excited to care about petty argumnts ^^

Plus gollux shop reset now in place? Def worth the downtime wait.

Only thing I'm sad about...I forgot to do the cwk pres and gollux pres on my newly made explorers so...No commerci for me till much later F4

Eh most of us are too excited to care about petty argumnts ^^

Plus gollux shop reset now in place? Def worth the downtime wait.

Only thing I'm sad about...I forgot to do the cwk pres and gollux pres on my newly made explorers so...No commerci for me till much later F4

Psh, it's better than training. I'll take questing anyday over that

That's prob why I don't have a 200, but who cares :]

I have tons of chars to get to 150 doh.

I'm still wondering how hard these bosses will really be. Extractions say 1.8b HP, but there are tons of mobs named "Gross Polpo" going as low as 33m...

So wait, I'm still trying to wrap my head around this upgrade thing.

If I had a 200 att Empress bow (128+72, I believe), and upgraded it to the Sweetwater bow, would it become 232 att (160+72)? :f6:

So wait, I'm still trying to wrap my head around this upgrade thing.

If I had a 200 att Empress bow (128+72, I believe), and upgraded it to the Sweetwater bow, would it become 232 att (160+72)? :f6:

Yep.

Another question, seems stupid to ask though:

does attack from enhances transfer as well? Seems like it should, as it gives more incentive to perfect a fafnir than an empress (though this is only really worth it on the katara.)

or do the stars get transferred over, and whatever attack they should add is calculated on the new weapon? If this is the case, there is literally no difference what you use.

does attack from enhances transfer as well?.

Appears that it's this, but that blog post isn't much help, since it doesn't cross enhancement tiers. I'm sure we'll find out shortly.