RED update thoughts and feedback

So about as expected, then? Earnable cubes are pomegranattier versions of the normal ones? >_>

So about as expected, then? Earnable cubes are pomegranattier versions of the normal ones? >_>

Yeah, it makes sense though. this is how it always should have been. Cubes should have been earnable, and cash cubes should have been slightly better to justify them costing real money.

I can't believe it took them this many years .

Yeah, it makes sense though. this is how it always should have been. Cubes should have been earnable, and cash cubes should have been slightly better to justify them costing real money.

I can't believe it took them this many years .

Slightly? The fact that the current system makes me feel like the only way to get tier upgrade is to pay for it shows how dumb everyone was for paying 12k for miracle cubes.

Slightly?

"should" being the important word here.

They might not be great at the moment, but Nexon could end up making them better or easier to get, we have no idea, since the idea of craftable cubes would have seemed impossible a year ago, and the sort of thing Nexon would never do.

These new cubes are already a step-up from Occult Cubes, so I see no reason they can't be improved upon.

It most definitely closed the gap between free cubes and NX cubes... because there was no gap, there was only cash cubes in the past. EVERYTHING we are getting in regards to cubes is better than it was, and i'm optimistic about it.

Are people getting the new cubes from boss drops or from crafting?

(While on 2x drop) I haven't seen a single cube drop from any of the bosses (that I'm able to kill). The updates notes don't say which bosses drop them specifically - so do lower end bosses like Zak still drop cubes? Compared to being able to get 100% drop for occult cubes before the patch, I don't see how the new system is an improvement, at least for me personally.

"should" being the important word here.

They might not be great at the moment, but Nexon could end up making them better or easier to get, we have no idea, since the idea of craftable cubes would have seemed impossible a year ago, and the sort of thing Nexon would never do.

These new cubes are already a step-up from Occult Cubes, so I see no reason they can't be improved upon.

It most definitely closed the gap between free cubes and NX cubes... because there was no gap, there was only cash cubes in the past. EVERYTHING we are getting in regards to cubes is better than it was, and i'm optimistic about it.

I don't disagree, but i went from having 0 use for occults to having no real hope in getting anything out of master/meister unless i already have a unique/legendary item which like i said you basically have to pay to get on your own. It IS what it should have been, but not when the entire in game cube supply is governed by events like red shop.

Are people getting the new cubes from boss drops or from crafting?

(While on 2x drop) I haven't seen a single cube drop from any of the bosses (that I'm able to kill). The updates notes don't say which bosses drop them specifically - so do lower end bosses like Zak still drop cubes? Compared to being able to get 100% drop for occult cubes before the patch, I don't see how the new system is an improvement, at least for me personally.

it's an improvement in that non-NX people can get cubes now. It's a terrible improvement, but an improvement nonetheless.

The cubes are apparently dropped from bosses (i believe easy magnus has been confirmed?) and sometimes drop from the super herb/stones that now float around the world. The only issue I have with crafting the cubes is that the ingredients are neigh impossible to find without spending days of your time to get one cube. ONE. Not to mention you need cube fragments, which you also get from boss monsters at an incredibly low drop rate AND the fact that you have to get to level 11/12 crafting and maintain that status. NX-cubes are basically just convenience factor now instead of necessity. Want to spend days tryin to make 1-2 cubes or 10 minutes getting a package of 11 from the CS?

I don't disagree, but i went from having 0 use for occults to having no real hope in getting anything out of master/meister unless i already have a unique/legendary item which like i said you basically have to pay to get on your own. It IS what it should have been, but not when the entire in game cube supply is governed by events like red shop.

Good point.

Still though, it's early days. It might change in the future, especially in relation to the Better Maple survey.


One thing I was upset about though was the removal of Occult Cubes, there seemed to be no real reason for it, and they would have been nice for getting your items up to epic before using the other, rarer cubes to make them better.

Not to mention you need cube fragments, which you also get from boss monsters at an incredibly low drop rate

Really? i was getting them from every single boss I fought. I got some every single time I killed Hilla, Arkarium, Zakum, Von Leon, and you can even get 3 a run from Gollux's body parts, up to 6 times a day. I got around 50 without even trying. Unless that was changed in a maintenance and this is the first I've heard of it. o.o

I agree with the other stuff you said though.

it's an improvement in that non-NX people can get cubes now. It's a terrible improvement, but an improvement nonetheless.

The cubes are apparently dropped from bosses (i believe easy magnus has been confirmed?) and sometimes drop from the super herb/stones that now float around the world. The only issue I have with crafting the cubes is that the ingredients are neigh impossible to find without spending days of your time to get one cube. ONE. Not to mention you need cube fragments, which you also get from boss monsters at an incredibly low drop rate AND the fact that you have to get to level 11/12 crafting and maintain that status. NX-cubes are basically just convenience factor now instead of necessity. Want to spend days tryin to make 1-2 cubes or 10 minutes getting a package of 11 from the CS?

Actually, cube fragments are the easiest material there is to get. They drop from everything near 100% of the time. I don't even think i'll use all of mine if i ever craft cubes which is probably never.

Zakum (regular, at least) does indeed drop cubes. I picked one up from him on my second Zak run after RED. Haven't gotten any others from him since, with very regularly being on x4 drop, and once x8. I've run Krexel almost every day since as well with none from him, but he doesn't even drop fragments, so yeah.

Regardless, it seems like right now, the best way to get cubes to drop are from the new mysterious herb/mine things. At the moment, crafting just isn't viable at all. So far I've only gotta one Cubic Chaos Blade, and I've almost never seen any in the FM for sale.

Good point.

Still though, it's early days. It might change in the future, especially in relation to the Better Maple survey.


One thing I was upset about though was the removal of Occult Cubes, there seemed to be no real reason for it, and they would have been nice for getting your items up to epic before using the other, rarer cubes to make them better.

I expect it to change of course. Maybe not now, maybe not after RED shop, but definitely as soon as some time next year. I don't mind if free cubes are the same as miracle cubes, but i do mind for bulk cubing if they aren't even half as common as occults.

On the topic about cubes, the only real HARD thing to find, is the Cubic Blades; everything else can be gotten RELATIVELY easy. Honestly I don't mind the low drop rate from bosses (magnus drops them pretty consistently from my experience by the way), but the crafting of them needs to be improved a bit, at the very least make Cubic blades MUCH more common.

Also; I always find the most interesting things when im searching up things about bosses
http://www.hidden-street.net/gms/quest-s...gold-glory
Perhaps we will get Mileage after all, only time will tell I suppose.

On the topic about cubes, the only real HARD thing to find, is the Cubic Blades; everything else can be gotten RELATIVELY easy. Honestly I don't mind the low drop rate from bosses (magnus drops them pretty consistently from my experience by the way), but the crafting of them needs to be improved a bit, at the very least make Cubic blades MUCH more common.

Also; I always find the most interesting things when im searching up things about bosses
http://www.hidden-street.net/gms/quest-s...gold-glory
Perhaps we will get Mileage after all, only time will tell I suppose.

the only problem with that system is that in order to get strong enough to fight magnus, what do you need to do?

the only problem with that system is that in order to get strong enough to fight magnus, what do you need to do?

Cube, which is the exact reason crafting needs to be the first and foremost way of getting cubes; bosses should just be a secondary thing imo. One of those things where your like "oh cool, a cube dropped" and not going into the boss fight PRAYING for cubes to drop.

Has anyone ranked an item up from unique to legendary with a Meister's Cube? Not sure if I should invest in a bunch or just wait for a miracle time and use Red Cubes.

With a 100% pot rank increase item, yup. Otherwise no rank ups with the Meister / Master Craftsman cubes.

So basically bosses / things that drop cubes:

Zakum [very low]
Hilla [ i got one myself on my pali when he had a greed pendant, 2x drop bff, 2x drop card and with the 2x drop event..so someone can calculate what drop mltiplier that is...oh and it was only 1 time i got the cube[
Easy Magnus {apparently highest drop rate we have seen, only issue is that it's limited to twice a week}
Easy Ark [heard decent rate]

Mysterious Veins [pretty rare]
Mining Event atm [uncommon]
RED shop
Crafting [almost impossible]

That's bsically where you get whole cubes from.

I miss occult cubes =x I know it wasn't that great for eveyone that had unique gear or even epic gear already, but it saved me tons of money just from getting my stuff from rare to epic because well..6% stat on all your gear is a lot more impressive than 3% stat on your gear..

And now with these new cubes it's bsiclaly like "allright I my item is already epic but only has 3% stat, do I want to risk not getting another cube for three or so weeks and making my equpiment give me nothing just so i can either rank up or aim for 6% or higher? " And most of the time I end p using the dam cube and making the gear worse just because I feel bad for letting them expire in my ivt unused...

I've got a couple of cubes from easy arky too

I've got a couple of cubes from easy arky too

Dully noted.

I think switching epic occults for unique would've really made a bigger difference than Craftsman cubes.

Has anyone ranked an item up from unique to legendary with a Meister's Cube? Not sure if I should invest in a bunch or just wait for a miracle time and use Red Cubes.

I got my empress hat to legendary from unique with a Meister's. Used about 50 or so of them. I've also gotten a cube off of one of those new veins of herb.

Actually my first ever legendary: