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So, anyway, there's also data on other Commerci stuff. Like the sea battles I guess. I think you get a ship (a fleet of ships?) and you have to level it (there's sailing EXP). 3 types of ships in total, each type has 10 levels and I think you transition from one to the next after each set of ten levels, which increases the cargo you can hold and enables one of the skills, and you're supposed to do stuff like trade with certain ports a certain amount of times, which I think awards you coins. In each of these "missions", I guess, a different set of monsters appear. Looks like there's an energy system (I believe you can only act when you have enough energy).

It's all just variables with few strings, besides describing what the objective is, for example, "在百草堂进行25次贸易", so there's not really much to go on.

That genuinely sounds quite fun to me.

Also i'm guessing the coins are the Commerci Denaro, seen in this screenshot:

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I look forward to trying it out.

Why should it be cheaper to play more than one character?

Because I doubt people really want to scroll and cube multiple sets again. And let's be real here, what's cheaper? Buying a couple of scissors or buying a whole new set and recubing from bare.

Who said it would? It's not like a clean fafnir set does that. It's not like anything would ever do that if you describe yourself as "decent".


I don't see any yet outside tradeability and that's not a problem with the set that's a problem with the game itself.

1)Because I doubt people really want to scroll and cube multiple sets again. And let's be real here, what's cheaper? Buying a couple of scissors or buying a whole new set and recubing from bare.

2)Who said I was talking about clean? A scrolled can still be traded around with psoks. This set is permanately stuck on a character. I like switching around every 6 months or so. And because the fact that I can play switch my gear every few months to where I am decent on any char I want is important to me.
3)
-Unconfirmed way to actually upgrade [let's be real here, there still hasn't been an explation how a TOP AND BOTTOM becomes an overall, and let's see how long it will take to upgrade each piece. In before it takes a month per piece]
-Ease of materials: Watch people only able to kill hell mode gollux actually be able to kill bosses for mats
-Tradiblity: No matter what you are saying, fact is it will turn off a great majority of people who would consider switching, especialy if my second point applies [ much less revelant if second point does not]
-Potential lines. It was already stated in the thread you only save the rank of potential, not the actual lines. So you must recube, which will most likely also turn off a lot of people.
-The fafnir set itself: It's 4 pieces. What are you using for the rest of those pieces? Empress? What if you already using tyrant? Granted, if what your saying is true [although I highly doubt it but like you said, we have no proof that either yours or mine opinion are correct about the method of how stats are transfered] then maybe it will be good if you only play only character at all.

Those are just some points brought up by various people in teh thread.

With nexons track record, I'm going to be guarded about my optomism. Like I said, looks great upgrade for those using empress and only play 1 character. Maybe better for those with fafnirs as well and aspire to hit the highest numbers on a single character. But there are many people like me who like to do decent damage and be able to transfer their stuff. Or at least sell the dam equps so they can afford a different class item.

As for the fafnir/emp debate, I honestly feel the 160 set is mainly for those who can't afford such things as fafnir or tyrants. I don't think fafnir should gain the upper hand because even if they do, it doesn't justify a transition from fafnir to vortex as most posters have stated. Someone with full empress can safely transition over because the sets are similar and really it looks like a good thing all around. I think vortex is simply a good alternative for those who did not go Root Abyss.

upgrade isn't free if they cant afford to get tyrant or fafnir ... then there no way they can afford a 160 clean + their old empress if they had one

the new 160 equip probably drop from this boss and/or marvel again lol

Uh no i didn't. What i said is nothing at all close to anything you've suggested.

You are saying the same pomegranate, just on rage mode for no reason.

according to the video seems like comerci has style shops im glad they're finally releasing more

I wonder which hairstyles are there

according to the video seems like comerci has style shops i hope they add more shops in the future in other places

I wonder which hairstyles are there

Keep us updated, Spadow and Grey? I'm at work so I will update the numbers later. I will change the unported equipment to an Empress port, since that will obviously be more powerful than the unported Vortex equipment. I'm also going to assume the ported equipment can level up.

Realistically, I can't really compute just how powerful dojo or Tyrant gloves are though. Superior items are just too game-breaking at times, not when the difference between each star is so vast that it breaks my calculator :/

Hadriel

upgrade isn't free if they cant afford to get tyrant or fafnir ... then there no way they can afford a 160 clean + their old empress if they had one

the new 160 equip probably drop from this boss and/or marvel again lol

Only reason i feel 160 gear will be easier than most to get is because they are trying out a new system. What's the point of the system if players can't readily access/use to see how they like it? What I feel is that the set ties in with the whole ship game (which reminds me of this game that's been advertising itself where u sail around on ships and complete trade missions. Forgot the name though...)

I feel the sea bosses can drop the equips and their difficulty will probably be based on you're ship level or w/e.

For all you Demon Avenger players out there, they added these rings:

超越保护戒指Ⅰ
恶魔复仇者装备时当前HP降至80%以下也不会再减少攻击力。

超越保护戒指ⅠⅠ
恶魔复仇者装备时当前HP降至85%以下也不会再减少攻击力。

超越保护戒指ⅠⅠⅠ
恶魔复仇者装备时当前HP降至90%以下也不会再减少攻击力。

I don't know how exactly to describe this, but, I guess, you know how your range is based on your HP at 70% when your HP is below that? Well, these rings increase that 70% to 80%, 85%, or 90%. They don't offer any other stats, and can't be potentialed though.

Keep us updated, Spadow and Grey?

I'll do my best.

For all you Demon Avenger players out there, they added these rings:

超越保护戒指Ⅰ
恶魔复仇者装备时当前HP降至80%以下也不会再减少攻击力。

超越保护戒指ⅠⅠ
恶魔复仇者装备时当前HP降至85%以下也不会再减少攻击力。

超越保护戒指ⅠⅠⅠ
恶魔复仇者装备时当前HP降至90%以下也不会再减少攻击力。

I don't know how exactly to describe this, but, I guess, you know how your range is based on your HP at 70% when your HP is below that? Well, these rings increase that 70% to 80%, 85%, or 90%. They don't offer any other stats, and can't be potentialed though.



I'll do my best.

Almost makes up for the fact that shop scrolls got nerfed... almost. Still my DA will rock this regardless of dmg loss.

@Grey

Is it possible to link the source so I could look at the stuff as well, thanks!

 meh derails

You are saying the same pomegranate, just on rage mode for no reason.

Eh i probably exaggerated with that i don't really know.

Have i even cursed in an attacking way today? I'm actually pretty chill mentally right now...

2)Who said I was talking about clean? A scrolled can still be traded around with psoks. This set is permanately stuck on a character. I like switching around every 6 months or so. And because the fact that I can play switch my gear every few months to where I am decent on any char I want is important to me.

I already offered up free job system as a point. If you want that then yeah 160 set sucks, but like i said i don't see why such an equipment set should be tradeable in any form. People could justify upgrading with clean stuff because it's a huge upgrade, and clean stuff is easy to get if you're playing multiple characters because you split your funds. Clean empress set is pretty good imo for a character to play and be decent, but you want characters to play and be good and that's a different story so free job system should be good news.

3)
-Unconfirmed way to actually upgrade [let's be real here, there still hasn't been an explation how a TOP AND BOTTOM becomes an overall, and let's see how long it will take to upgrade each piece. In before it takes a month per piece]

More of a reason not to speculate on make stuff up like i been doin than it is a downside of the 160 set...

Accessibility doesn't matter too much since...well, see how far other items have deflated over time?

-Ease of materials: Watch people only able to kill hell mode gollux actually be able to kill bosses for mats

Why should people be surprised? Why should 160 stuff be involved with bosses weaker than empress or CRA?

-Potential lines. It was already stated in the thread you only save the rank of potential, not the actual lines. So you must recube, which will most likely also turn off a lot of people.

I know that. But let's be real here, cubing a new set from legendary/unique is cheaper than upgrading to a new set from nothing at all, and it's because of this a lot less people are going to be turned off by upgrading. Besides, scrolling stuff is SUCH A B'ITCH and often the worst part of perfecting an item so getting to keep your perfected work as you upgrade is such good incentive. Plus it brings value back to some pieces that aren't so good anymore.

-The fafnir set itself: It's 4 pieces. What are you using for the rest of those pieces? Empress? What if you already using tyrant? Granted, if what your saying is true [although I highly doubt it but like you said, we have no proof that either yours or mine opinion are correct about the method of how stats are transfered] then maybe it will be good if you only play only character at all.

Yeah just a lot of unresolved questions. A lot of these problems are just pre-mature because we don't know anything.

With nexons track record, I'm going to be guarded about my optomism. Like I said, looks great upgrade for those using empress and only play 1 character. Maybe better for those with fafnirs as well and aspire to hit the highest numbers on a single character. But there are many people like me who like to do decent damage and be able to transfer their stuff.

I agree, and as i said free job system is good news.

@Grey

Is it possible to link the source so I could look at the stuff as well, thanks!

Um, it's mostly stuff I can see in the data. I'll try to find other sources where I can.

You can see the DA rings here: http://mxd.766.com/db/item.php?id=01113042
They have consecutive item IDs. This DB doesn't have the 160 set yet, as far as I can tell.

That's pretty cool, no more damage reduction on a DA if your health goes below 90%... any idea on how to obtain one?

That's pretty cool, no more damage reduction on a DA if your health goes below 90%... any idea on how to obtain one?

Not a clue.

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"Commerz"

And, looking for translations on stuff inside the spoiler.

Behold, your ship:

Oops XP

"Commerz"

I don't know if it's just me but... with the z at the end, it made me cringe a bit.

Not a clue.

I knew it. Dawnveil = Masteria. I've seen some untranslated Korean text in the Commerci video. I'm wondering if this is what KMS is getting in the Winter update...

Hmm... This UI element is known as "Succession"



L> Translation.

So no sengoku weapons on that list?