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MasPan · 2013-09-29, 10:36 PM

byakugan Wrote:I know, I build it first, but thats one of the reasons its hard to build damage quick enough. Once i have it its hard to run out of MP, but its hard to fight melee aswell. I will just keep practicing.

[COLOR="#cc8899"]In lane with Jayce the only reason you want to be in melee form is either to regain mana when you have control of the lane/are by yourself or to knock away someone trying to all-in you. Or if they're already on top of you and you've already blown your other cooldowns.

What I see most Jayces doing when pressured, and some regardless of lane situation, is blow up caster minions with a boosted Q and then last-hit the melees, scattering ranged autos in to harass where possible. [/COLOR]

TheTempest · 2013-09-29, 11:33 PM

I got a full map KS as Ashe sup. I ulted from bot lane to try and hit Fizz in mid so our mid can get the kill, but I missed. So the arrow kept going and it hit Jax at top while our Darius was 1v1ing him (Darius would've got the kill if it weren't for me Biggrin

).
Also, won a non aram match as ADC Janna. Excellent

Sega · 2013-09-30, 01:07 AM

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LeBlanc so fun, that game was really fun too.

Zelkova · 2013-10-01, 01:27 AM

Did my Solo queue provisionals these past couple days (streamed it all too). I ended up in~

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Imagine · 2013-10-01, 01:31 AM

Note to self: Just because you're an ADC with a gap closer, it doesn't mean you should jump in like a retard when someone's low and clumped up with his teammates. And don't walk in front of graves to trade with him during laning phase.

Corn · 2013-10-01, 01:31 AM

Well, crap, you ended up better than me when I first got my division.

Derosis · 2013-10-01, 01:40 AM

So my cousin was playing on my account and took me from S II to SIII with 7 LP. Welp. Im gonna go cry. I told him just Normal Queue. Nope he played rank. Ugh.

GodHaseo · 2013-10-01, 02:55 PM

Xerath and Olaf Splash art Update o_o sneaky
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Zelkova · 2013-10-01, 03:28 PM

Corn Wrote:Well, crap, you ended up better than me when I first got my division.

I won every game I played as Veigar support (with @ResistGreen; as my ADC).

ResistGreen · 2013-10-01, 03:44 PM

Zelkova Wrote:I won every game I played as Veigar support (with @ResistGreen; as my ADC).

Carried *cough*

TheTempest · 2013-10-01, 08:21 PM

Zelkova Wrote:I won every game I played as Veigar support (with @ResistGreen; as my ADC).

Now try to maintain that Silver III. I was demoted because of so many trolls that decide to feed/throw the game. Frown

Now I'm practicing other roles instead of maining support. Can't really rely on teammates to carry. Any advice on what champions to play to help me carry teammates?

Corn · 2013-10-01, 08:33 PM

I remember the good old days where I carried myself from Silver 5 to Silver 1 with only pre-nerf Taric support (80% win rate boo yeah)

ResistGreen · 2013-10-01, 08:45 PM

Wew, finished that last game (lost it) and ended up getting Silver 4. Good enough for me.

byakugan · 2013-10-01, 09:50 PM

MasPan Wrote:[COLOR="#cc8899"]In lane with Jayce the only reason you want to be in melee form is either to regain mana when you have control of the lane/are by yourself or to knock away someone trying to all-in you. Or if they're already on top of you and you've already blown your other cooldowns.

What I see most Jayces doing when pressured, and some regardless of lane situation, is blow up caster minions with a boosted Q and then last-hit the melees, scattering ranged autos in to harass where possible. [/COLOR]

You can't use Jayce as full ADC because his range is lower to that of regular ADC, any champion with a dash skill like Renekton or a pull skill like Darius or a slow skill like Nasus or Ashe can close in on you pretty fast and kick your butt if you're not carefull. I've watched videos and it seems Jayce awesomeness comes from comboing all 5 (or 6 if you count accel gate) skills in each assault. For that I'll try to add more cooldown reduction items into my build but I'm not really good farming gold with him.

One thing I really need to do is learn to use his E in hammer mode, because if you don't use it at the right time you can end up helping your enemy escape from death, but if you don't then thats some damage you're missing out and could help you survive a duel.

hongyu · 2013-10-01, 11:22 PM

TheTempest Wrote:Now try to maintain that Silver III. I was demoted because of so many trolls that decide to feed/throw the game.

Now I'm practicing other roles instead of maining support. Can't really rely on teammates to carry. Any advice on what champions to play to help me carry teammates?

in silver, just don't play tanks and you are fine(bruisers work however ex: j4/hecarim). If you want to carry play damage carries/utility carries works fine also. What I would recommend are
top: jax(strong tri force buffs/hyper carry to easily carry games)
mid: ryze(strong hyper carry if you survive his early game)
jungle: shaco(aggressive counterjungler/early ganker)

MasPan · 2013-10-02, 12:19 AM

byakugan Wrote:You can't use Jayce as full ADC because his range is lower to that of regular ADC, any champion with a dash skill like Renekton or a pull skill like Darius or a slow skill like Nasus or Ashe can close in on you pretty fast and kick your butt if you're not carefull. I've watched videos and it seems Jayce awesomeness comes from comboing all 5 (or 6 if you count accel gate) skills in each assault. For that I'll try to add more cooldown reduction items into my build but I'm not really good farming gold with him.

One thing I really need to do is learn to use his E in hammer mode, because if you don't use it at the right time you can end up helping your enemy escape from death, but if you don't then thats some damage you're missing out and could help you survive a duel.

I didn't mean use him as a full ADC. I meant that you primarily use his ranged form for farming/harass and his melee form defensively/when needed to win a trade. Riot's slowly pushing him to be capable of doing more in his hammer form, but the max range boosted Q in his ranged form should guarantee that you get at least 3 minions in every wave and that the enemy has a very difficult time pushing a wave to your turret. His hammer form is very capable of screwing up an enemy's dive as well.

TheTempest · 2013-10-02, 12:27 AM

hongyu Wrote:in silver, just don't play tanks and you are fine(bruisers work however ex: j4/hecarim). If you want to carry play damage carries/utility carries works fine also. What I would recommend are
top: jax(strong tri force buffs/hyper carry to easily carry games)
mid: ryze(strong hyper carry if you survive his early game)
jungle: shaco(aggressive counterjungler/early ganker)

Thanks for the tips. I've only played Jax during ARAMs when he was free, but I've always wanted to try him out in SR. He's only 1350 IP right? Also, how is Shyvana in terms of carry potential?

hongyu · 2013-10-02, 12:46 AM

TheTempest Wrote:Thanks for the tips. I've only played Jax during ARAMs when he was free, but I've always wanted to try him out in SR. He's only 1350 IP right? Also, how is Shyvana in terms of carry potential?

The ones I listed are just 1 of many, you can take many other champs that are within your current pool. Shyvana depends, jungle shyvana is a super counterjungler, except against a certain few that clears really fast/can 1v1 you. Her ganks are terrible though, Top lane shyvana is a nice bruiser as well and can certainly carry. The problem with shyvana is that she has no cc, she's a good duelist against many but she can't keep them in place. She works well with teammates with cc though.

Imagine · 2013-10-02, 12:50 AM

Spoiler

the power of chat restriction (look at the fiora's chat progress)

Corn · 2013-10-02, 02:15 PM

Gold II after an annoying Game 2. Man, that was weird. Top Gangplank, mid Viktor, and Malz...never seen that since Silver. Had to carry hard as support :3.

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