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Tyrant Coin Exploit?
#21
@MCPV;

I can't watch the video but be careful, it's just a posting of the person hacking right? Not a "How I do this" video
#22
It was a recorded live stream of a person hacking hard magnus. Not a instructional video. Rolleyes
#23

dems Wrote:what in the....

Also, why are we all jumping on the 100% there's an exploit train when we have literally almost no evidence and were swimming in tyrants two weeks ago? Can anyone get some ss' of stores full of multiple tyrants or something? My server is not swimming in it and nobody seems to be posting evidence of it so why are we even assuming it's happening?

Funny how only now are you concerned with needing absolute evidence before believing something.

Magnus coin exploit has been in GAZED for at least 3 weeks. The guy doesn't have a store/merchant but sells via item megaphones to people individually in order to not seem as suspicious, clearly it's working.

Easy fix: permanently ban all accounts with more than ~50 Magnus coins on them, after fixing the exploit, and if possible tracing the generated items and deleting them.
#24
Mazz Wrote:
Easy fix: permanently ban all accounts with more than ~50 Magnus coins on them, after fixing the exploit, and if possible tracing the generated items and deleting them.

Meanwhile the people that exploited the tyrants have already sold dozens for profit/funding and gets away with it, and the legitimate players that have bought these tyrants cope with their loss of scrolling/enhancing/cubing.
#25
KhainiWest Wrote:You do when it's been like that for years. You have gone the manager and explained, in detail, how to be more efficient, that they should use both registers at once rather than switching them, that waiting for 3 orders to accumulate before starting, is not a smart practice, nor is giving a specific time it will be ready when it's not only inaccurate but too many variables can change it.

The manager stares at you, with deep sinking eyes, his life was great until his family died in a car accident and he lost his job because of depression. Your positive rewarding feedback falls on death ears as all he can hear is the screams of his family, burning alive. You contacted the very CEO, who just doesn't see it, the profit margin is always high and promising. You continue to the restaurant, seeing the letters you have sent, stacked up in the managers office, still moaping about, aimlessly.

But have I really tried to make a difference, or have I merely complained about it in fan threads? I remember sending nexon a ticket June of last year iirc detailing what they should do to improve the game. For the most part, all of my noted concerns were addressed (even though a living breathing person has yet to answer this ticket that which is full of rage). I have yet to send another ticket such as this. So I don't think I've done enough to help this company fix anything. I guess I should make a thread discussing this particular ticket. But I've digressed. You're not technically wrong, but I would presume that manager probably isn't a victim of bad circumstances. No no, he is probably having the time of his life and has a happy life with a great family.

KhainiWest Wrote:At this point you realize, that in order to get that craving of boardwalk fries and that half pound burger you'll have to wait longer, possibly re-order frequently, and accept that poor service to get that burger that has LCD in it to keep you around.

No sir. I would gladly wait an extra 30 minutes because the food is healthy and delicious. But that's just me. Different people have different priorities.

KhainiWest Wrote:...,Or you can go to the wendy's down the street. You pay a little more, and don't get the exact same obssesive feeling that you get at Maplestories, but steam will find other ways to keep you satisfied. Like with the skyrim deluxe burger, and some tomb raider f`uckin chili.

Clever Wink
#26
MCPV Wrote:Meanwhile the people that exploited the tyrants have already sold dozens for profit/funding and gets away with it, and the legitimate players that have bought these tyrants cope with their loss of scrolling/enhancing/cubing.

Sounds like a classic Nexon solution, so yup, that's how I see this ending. As much as it sucks...
#27
Mazz Wrote:


Funny how only now are you concerned with needing absolute evidence before believing something.

Magnus coin exploit has been in GAZED for at least 3 weeks. The guy doesn't have a store/merchant but sells via item megaphones to people individually in order to not seem as suspicious, clearly it's working.

Easy fix: permanently ban all accounts with more than ~50 Magnus coins on them, after fixing the exploit, and if possible tracing the generated items and deleting them.

First of all, personal differences don't belong on Southperry. Second of all, that person that you think is selling them one at a time is actually a known person's mule. Third, there's hardly any item smegas of DIFFERENT tyrants going around. As far as I know(from him) he had 5(from marvel). I haven't seen him smega more than 3 different ones. There is still no evidence of an item gen in gazed(though if someone would know about it, it would probably be you). Also, if say 3 mutual(2 former) friends were to show me evidence of such a thing including screenshots of private and public conversations, I would be inclined to believe that such activity was happening.
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#28
Mazz Wrote:Sounds like a classic Nexon solution, so yup, that's how I see this ending. As much as it sucks...

Part of me still believes they're been well aware of this exploit for months now. Someone posted a thread on Southperry a while back and Girasol was aware of it.

Just waiting for more people to finish buying these and reap in the profits in CS scrolls and cubes. And then they'll wipe them, just like the duped items. No lost profit since tyrants are still worth spinning marvel for, and after a wipe they'll be all the more valuable.

[MENTION=12756]dems[/MENTION]; Open your eyes. What other proof do you need?
#29
MCPV Wrote:Part of me still believes they're been well aware of this exploit for months now. Someone posted a thread on Southperry a while back and Girasol was aware of it.

Just waiting for more people to finish buying these and reap in the profits in CS scrolls and cubes. And then they'll wipe them, just like the duped items. No lost profit since tyrants are still worth spinning marvel for, and after a wipe they'll be all the more valuable.

[MENTION=12756]dems[/MENTION]; Open your eyes. What other proof do you need?

Umm.. to see more tyrants? There are no unclaimed tyrants on GAZED that are being sold or passed around. This is all a wild goose chase with no evidence(as of now). Go look through gazed, watch the smegas. In our server at least, there is nothing pointing to anything other than 2 of our 5 known botters gearing up to hack Hard Mag.
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#30
dems Wrote:First of all, personal differences don't belong on Southperry. Second of all, that person that you think is selling them one at a time is actually a known person's mule. Third, there's hardly any item smegas of DIFFERENT tyrants going around. As far as I know(from him) he had 5(from marvel). I haven't seen him smega more than 3 different ones

A known person from another server, the same person using the exploit in (probably) every server by now.

Quote:There is still no evidence of an item gen in gazed(though if someone would know about it, it would probably be you).

You're cute.
It's happening in every server.
#31
dems Wrote:Umm.. to see more tyrants? There are no unclaimed tyrants on GAZED that are being sold or passed around. This is all a wild goose chase with no evidence(as of now). Go look through gazed, watch the smegas. In our server at least, there is nothing pointing to anything other than 2 of our 5 known botters gearing up to hack Hard Mag.

Do you really believe the exploiters are stupid enough fill a shop full of tyrants, and jump around flaunting they have an unlimited supply of them? They're being sold one by one, or on request.
#32
Mazz Wrote:A known person from another server, the same person using the exploit in (probably) every server by now.



You're cute.
It's happening in every server.

It may be happening but it's not happening how you're saying. You're barely online and have hardly any evidence of what gets item smega'd. There isn't any mushies full of tyrant and there arent like once every 5h smegas of tyrant. There just isn't. If they're being privately sold somewhere, that may be something(as I don't participate in those groups). But as far as in-game evidence goes on GAZED, you really have nothing. So far today there has been a whopping 0 item smegas of tyrant. 0 new ones in stores, and 0 people discussing it. What evidence do you have of this happening on GAZED?
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#33
dems Wrote:First of all, personal differences don't belong on Southperry.

What personal differences? You made a lot of assumptions in the last thread concerning the bans, now that it isn't directly concerning you, now assumptions(although not really asssumptions) are unnacceptable? lol

dems Wrote:Second of all, that person that you think is selling them one at a time is actually a known person's mule.[ Third, there's hardly any item smegas of DIFFERENT tyrants going around. As far as I know(from him) he had 5(from marvel). I haven't seen him smega more than 3 different ones. There is still no evidence of an item gen in gazed(though if someone would know about it, it would probably be you). Also, if say 3 mutual(2 former) friends were to show me evidence of such a thing including screenshots of private and public conversations, I would be inclined to believe that such activity was happening.

It's against the rules to post that type of evidence on southperry. What you're asking for is infractable, and genuinely, the 'assumptions' you think these guys are making are a lot more logical than the ones you were making.
#34
MCPV Wrote:Do you really believe the exploiters are stupid enough fill a shop full of tyrants, and jump around flaunting they have an unlimited supply of them? They're being sold one by one, or on request.

The thing is, GAZED isn't this massive server of tons of people that are unknown or even willing to purchase tyrant. We don't have this huge market of thousands of dollars going all over daily for tyrant. Hell, there's only a handful of people on our server that could afford it with meso or that would buy it with cash/nx. Do you really think there's some secret illumanity operation going on but our dojo stays the same? Our market stays the same? The known strong people are the same and there's no new up and comers? No booms are selling the same, smegas are operating the same. Where exactly is all this tyrant going? Cause it isn't going onto our players, that's for sure.

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KhainiWest Wrote:What personal differences? You made a lot of assumptions in the last thread concerning the bans, now that it isn't directly concerning you, now assumptions(although not really asssumptions) are unnacceptable? lol



It's against the rules to post that type of evidence on southperry. What you're asking for is infractable, and genuinely, the 'assumptions' you think these guys are making are a lot more logical than the ones you were making.

I didn't request anything. Re-read the post. Assumptions are of a personal disagreement and are infractable and thus, won't be shared here by myself. And it's more logical to assume that there is a top secret tyrant seller flooding GAZED with tyrant secretly but nobody sees it on anyone or knows about it. Right..
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#35
dems Wrote:The thing is, GAZED isn't this massive server of tons of people that are unknown or even willing to purchase tyrant. We don't have this huge market of thousands of dollars going all over daily for tyrant. Hell, there's only a handful of people on our server that could afford it with meso or that would buy it with cash/nx. Do you really think there's some secret illumanity operation going on but our dojo stays the same? Our market stays the same? The known strong people are the same and there's no new up and comers? No booms are selling the same, smegas are operating the same. Where exactly is all this tyrant going? Cause it isn't going onto our players, that's for sure.

Are you saying that you know of every transaction/conversation ever made on Gazed? Cus I'd ask you why arent you banning players with those GM powers. I bet if I went to a certain website that we can't mention here, I could find at least 3 people advertising tyrants in their market threads.


dems Wrote:I didn't request anything. Re-read the post. Assumptions are of a personal disagreement and are infractable and thus, won't be shared here by myself. And it's more logical to assume that there is a top secret tyrant seller flooding GAZED with tyrant secretly but nobody sees it on anyone or knows about it. Right..

...You do realize that you did in fact requested something that I just told you is against the rules, I mean you requested it 3 frekin times.
#36
KhainiWest Wrote:Are you saying that you know of every transaction/conversation ever made on Gazed? Cus I'd ask you why arent you banning players with those GM powers. I bet if I went to a certain website that we can't mention here, I could find at least 3 people advertising tyrants in their market threads.

PM the name of those players and I'll give you their IGNs right now. I'm not saying I know of everything, but there is nobody online in GAZED more than myself and there is not some new mass flooding of tyrant. There just flat out isn't. I check those sites and groups we're not allowed to say here as well and you know what? All of those people(if people did a tiny bit of research or asked) are known people(to Mazz as well) and are certainly not dupers, genners, or even that program users. They're all people who quietly spend tons of nx and don't share it openly due to embarrassment. If you'd like you can fire me those threads/people and I'll fire to you who they are(most are even on this site).
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#37
dems Wrote:The thing is, GAZED isn't this massive server of tons of people that are unknown or even willing to purchase tyrant. We don't have this huge market of thousands of dollars going all over daily for tyrant. Hell, there's only a handful of people on our server that could afford it with meso or that would buy it with cash/nx. Do you really think there's some secret illumanity operation going on but our dojo stays the same? Our market stays the same? The known strong people are the same and there's no new up and comers? No booms are selling the same, smegas are operating the same. Where exactly is all this tyrant going? Cause it isn't going onto our players, that's for sure.

I really don't see what Dojo has to do with it, as not every single player attempt it frequently. Do you claim to know every single player in GAZED, or even all the "strong" ones? Because that's what you're sounding like.

Having a tyrant equip isn't synonymous with being what some might call "strong".
#38
I think this thread has served its purpose and is now devolved into personal drama.

That's enough of that. Nexon will investigate, or they won't, but not by our arguing about it.


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