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TLeviathan Wrote:Formula is for after 2nd job, which is when most people wash anyways... you gain mp for 2nd job advance so the minimum is adjusted.

Ok, I understand. Thanks a lot Smile
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Kevo Wrote:I was wondering if there's an updated formula for this? I have a Level 29 Pirate that has 479 MP after washing it twice. So originally, it was 511 MP. But according to the formula I needed 633 MP to wash...

Pretty sure that's 2nd job formula because you get the MP boost from advancing. I don't think anyone seriously HP washes in 1st job to begin with as it's pretty hard anyway. That's not saying people don't wear int gear at level 1, but meaning they don't buy resets and hp wash that early usually.

@20 attack hat and mp3/windraiders: I'd say wherever the training spot would be for 7x.
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I'm having trouble with a build. Some people say max Shockwave and EB, and get 11 ED. Some say max ED and Shockwave and get 21 EB. Some say max EB and ED and get 21 Shockwave. Which should I choose?
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I heard that transforms cooldown was reduced from 360 seconds (6 mins) down to 240 seconds (4mins), anyone care to verify? The description, hidden street, and 4th job table all say 360 second cooldown.

@nowaizmatt
Its up to you really. You probably already kno but I prefer energy attacks to being transformed. The thing is, shockwave can't be used during normal mode, but energy attacks can be used while transformed. Snatch -> blast combo anyone?
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DrRusty Wrote:I heard that transforms cooldown was reduced from 360 seconds (6 mins) down to 240 seconds (4mins), anyone care to verify? The description, hidden street, and 4th job table all say 360 second cooldown.

@nowaizmatt
Its up to you really. You probably already kno but I prefer energy attacks to being transformed. The thing is, shockwave can't be used during normal mode, but energy attacks can be used while transformed. Snatch -> blast combo anyone?

http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2

240 seconds according to fiel

*edit* nvm, thought you meant super transform
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DrRusty Wrote:I heard that transforms cooldown was reduced from 360 seconds (6 mins) down to 240 seconds (4mins), anyone care to verify? The description, hidden street, and 4th job table all say 360 second cooldown.

@nowaizmatt
Its up to you really. You probably already kno but I prefer energy attacks to being transformed. The thing is, shockwave can't be used during normal mode, but energy attacks can be used while transformed. Snatch -> blast combo anyone?

For your question, yes, the total cooldown is 6 minutes, but after you use the skill it's four minutes.
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For 2nd job training, what's more helpful? MP Recov or DU?
I just hit 57, have maxed Screw, Back, HP, 19 mastery, 9 booster, and 1 in MP and Barrel. Kind of at a loss for what to add into next. :/
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Hazzy Wrote:For 2nd job training, what's more helpful? MP Recov or DU?
I just hit 57, have maxed Screw, Back, HP, 19 mastery, 9 booster, and 1 in MP and Barrel. Kind of at a loss for what to add into next. :/

I say booster or DU.
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Well... that was confusing, you have 1 in HP and 1 in barrel? Cause you said max HP o,o

You should max Double upper now, and then, personally I maxed barrel but it's up to you what to max, Hp or barrel.
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Takebacker Wrote:I say booster or DU.
Is DU used before 70 though?

Darkmaniak Wrote:Well... that was confusing, you have 1 in HP and 1 in barrel? Cause you said max HP o,o

You should max Double upper now, and then, personally I maxed barrel but it's up to you what to max, Hp or barrel.

I said I have 1 MP, not HP. D:
Why DU? Is it ever used before 70?
Why Barrel? Does it have any training uses?
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Hazzy Wrote:Is DU used before 70 though?



I said I have 1 MP, not HP. D:
Why DU? Is it ever used before 70?
Why Barrel? Does it have any training uses?

I use DU all the time. o_o

Barrel has no uses. The only use i see is avoiding monsters when going to a training spot, which isn't that useful until you start heading up to leafre.
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Where do you use DU? :o
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Hazzy Wrote:Where do you use DU? :o

C-2. You're stronger than me though. (in levels)
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It's useful for OHKOing some things, like training in MP3 I mob with cork screw and kill with SSK or sometimes don't even need SSK, point is that if I see a monster alone I use DU and it hits around 3k each hit, that's a OHKO to slimys or the blue things XD

Also, in 4th job it will be your link between barrages. barrage + dU + barrage + du....
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Darkmaniak Wrote:It's useful for OHKOing some things, like training in MP3 I mob with cork screw and kill with SSK or sometimes don't even need SSK, point is that if I see a monster alone I use DU and it hits around 3k each hit, that's a OHKO to slimys or the blue things XD

Also, in 4th job it will be your link between barrages. barrage + dU + barrage + du....

I intend to max it, I just don't see how much use it can be in 2nd job, which I think I could live out at mp3. xD

Although, it is twice as strong as FF when maxed, so I guess it would work better. :o
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I rarely ever used DU. Esp. at MP3 where it's all mobs, and I stayed from 50-well, I'm 73 now but I plan to stay for a long time Tongue.
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Hazzy Wrote:Although, it is twice as strong as FF when maxed, so I guess it would work better. :o
It's also almost twice as slow Tongue
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My question
Level 75.
Range: 11xx~20xx (around that).

At that point, I'll have
1 Transform
1 Shockwave
12 Energy Charge
1 Energy Blast

Where to train?
Ready for Windraiders? I dunno I really love MP3 <3, but it is getting kinda slower (on 4x :3)
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MP3, easier mobbing for a Marauder I'd imagine. Then again, I haven't played one on Lower Ascent before.
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Russt Wrote:It's also almost twice as slow Tongue

But you only have to use it once. If you get the stray monster, it's dead. FF needs you to be around for both hits. :O
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