KMST 1.2.482 Zero

Considering she is shaking hands with Zero, I wonder if she's a good guy?

i mean seriously,nexon storyline is pretty much predictable

You're pretty much wrong about there not being a two character combat system. Yes, there is an overhyped animated final attack, but there's also the option to play like the video above, with frequent switching and the like.

I believe the point he was trying to make is the switching occurs instantly at your current position when you use a skill for the other Zero. (or at least, that's what's disappointing me)
It's not like, Alpha can go stand over here and kill these guys, while Beta is over there doing their own thing.

There's no asynchronous character control like you'd expect from controlling "two" characters.
(for a good example of what I mean, since I know I worded that terribly, think The World Ends With You)

I believe the point he was trying to make is the switching occurs instantly at your current position when you use a skill for the other Zero. (or at least, that's what's disappointing me)
It's not like, Alpha can go stand over here and kill these guys, while Beta is over there doing their own thing.

There's no asynchronous character control like you'd expect from controlling "two" characters.
(for a good example of what I mean, since I know I worded that terribly, think The World Ends With You)

This.

I was expecting it to look like what Zero does in the character selection. 2 characters side by side. Even if the other side would just stand there like an android. Now it pretty much looks like a single same guy gender-bending between male and female.

And why swords, swods and some swords for your swords? There ARE other weapons that could have worked just as well, if not better. The Suikoden 2 hero Riou and his sister Nanami comes to mind.

I am not so sure that it's as boring. I saw one video where a few attacks were used, but not much tagging or assisting was done. It was like "here's one, here's the other". Then a different video used frequent assists. It look a LOT cooler.

Right off the bat, there looks like there's quite a bit to learn about playing the class. I mean, when I look at upgraded 4th job Wind Archer, yes it's flashy, but in the end, I already know how to play it. Buff, Super Hurricane 1-4 targets, use the mob skill arrow if there's more. Hyper if necessary. Case closed. But Zero? There's combos, chances to switch, slightly different effects, etc. And even then, I'm betting the timing might be awkard in the switch. Alpha uses a normal(6) weapon with -3 attack speed in the mastery (apparently boosters were done away with). Beta uses a slow(8) with -2 speed. That's a huge, 3 speed difference, not even accounting for skill delays.

It might be similar to Hayato. Hayato didn't look fun just by skill animations and videos, but actually zipping through the map with awesome attacks was actually quite enjoyable.

The animation part was more of personally preference I must confess. Sure hayato not having anything distinguish is one key aspect of being hayato. But if more jobs turn up that way, then it is really just a mess(though I suppose it is already a mess with all the lines of damage which we finally do not see in boss fight)

As for playstyle, I was just disappointed that it doesn't comprise of 2characters(which was the selling point that nexon created). Many who do play console game will have no problem keeping up with the switch-in and chaining is definitely straight forward(unless time sensitive like mercedes)

So yeah, prior to this I do not have any idea how nexon is going to pull the 2character system off or is it even possible. And was just disappointed to find out that the so called 2character is just a glorified marketing gimmick like how mir is simply a glorified gigantic weapon cover for evan.

Like what Daakun/Satellite said, I was more looking forward to maybe a break through from nexon in terms of playstyle. Totally not dissing about zero itself. It was more of a "playstyle didn't turn out to be something more" rather then "aww boring"

Put it another way, zero playstyle is similar to xenon bar the chaining of skills. There is no difference in switching "mode" and switching "alpha<>beta"

Just curious: Anyone with zero can shed some light on whether alpha/beta skills requires keyslot individually? Or are their skills "paired up" in the sense that pressing say C on your keyboard will trigger moon strike with alpha and shadow strike if you switch beta in.

NEXON

STOP FUCKING MAKE NEW CLASSES. flashy animations can't polish a turd!

And why swords, swods and some swords for your swords? There ARE other weapons that could have worked just as well, if not better. The Suikoden 2 hero Riou and his sister Nanami comes to mind.

You mean Tonfa , would be nice if they made that as weapon Dx.
About nanami weapon I think its dragon rod (unless that was one of her upgraded weapon in the game)

You mean Tonfa , would be nice if they made that as weapon Dx.
About nanami weapon I think its dragon rod (unless that was one of her upgraded weapon in the game)

They have great synergy with just their sticks, yea. Nothing wrong with swords in itself, but it is bloody overused in Maple.

And off topic; Jag antar att du är svensk med ett sådant användarnamn?

Right now I'm level 115 on my Zero in the test server. There is a lot of dialogue and there's more to come.
In my opinion it is a slow character to raise and leveling is different. As a Zero you cannot just grind your way to level 200 right off the bat. Why not? Because you cannot earn EXP from the Maple World mobs.
Unless you have a specific chapter or part of a chapter completed in Zero's story.

Earlier I wanted to level insanely fast just by going to Monster Park Extreme but I noticed I didn't get any EXP. A message in the chat box told me to complete part 8 of a chapter if I wanted to earn EXP from these mobs.
There are a lot story quests and the last quest ends at Lv. 180. You're not not necessarily stuck in Mirror World since you can go to Maple World anytime you want, but if you want EXP from Maple World mobs, you are forced to complete the quests whether you like it or not.



Luckily there are special dungeons in Mirror World. There is a death count limit in these dungeons meaning you can only die a few amount of times. There is no EXP penalty upon death in these dungeons.
Monsters drop these big Carnival-like potions. As a Zero, you can invite friends to join with you in the dungeon or invite random people waiting in town.
Only Zero can enter the Mirror World and other classes can only be invited to the special dungeons.



There are like five stages in every dungeon. In the last stage you can find a boss monster. You clear the dungeon when you've defeated all monsters including the boss monster. As a reward for clearing dungeons, you get bonus EXP and WP (Weapon Point).

You unlock new skills for Alpha and Beta as you progress in your adventure. You unlock skills at Lv. 100, 115, 120 and so forth. Until Lv. 180 I think.
As you might have seen in the videos, you can either tag or assist. If you are Alpha currently and want to become Beta, you just use a skill of Beta to tag. There is a cooldown of 3 seconds for tagging.



You meet the spirits Lapis and Lazuli only when you have completed a specific part of chapter 1. If you haven't done it yet, you cannot make use of the enhancement system.
These are the spirits that help you enhance and upgrade your weapons.



Zero has a few unique features added to the enhancement system. Zero can have its weapon upgraded at certain levels. The weapons become stronger and will change visually.



Earlier I told you about Weapon Points (WP hereafter). If you view the image above, you see four buttons just above the meso and WP fields.
The first button allows Zero to have Additional Potential on his weapons without the requirement of a scroll. It requires meso and WP. The cost for using this option on my Lv. 100 weapons was 200k meso and 1200 WP.
WP can be obtained from clearing dungeons in Mirror World and by defeating boss monsters.

The second button allows Zero to change its Potential on his weapons. Since my weapons don't have potential yet, I cannot check how much this option will cost.
The third and fourth are weapon upgrade and speak to the spirits respectively.

You can simultaneously scroll both weapons with just one scroll, flame, cube etc. I don't know yet if the potential stats will be the same. When I used the ''Give Additional Potential'' option, it gave me +2% allstats and +3 INT, +3 DEX and +6 LUK as Additional Potential on both my weapons.

They have great synergy with just their sticks, yea. Nothing wrong with swords in itself, but it is bloody overused in Maple.

And off topic; Jag antar att du är svensk med ett sådant användarnamn?

yea I know 3 rods attached. Tonfa would be a good weapon for a new thief or pirate.
about the off topic no I am not :p ombudsman Is just related to my job in rl.

4, since equips seem to be shared.

and then with an android and a human looking familiar you've got a party, woo.

Also i was kinda hoping that the other Zero would follow behind you like an android or Haku and they'd attack together rather than tagging in, quite disappointed.

Me too. But then they'd hopefully make it so that the android stands furthest away. Whats that My Buddy thing?

All of you are thinking far too small, far too small. Aran is neither male or female, Aran doesn't actually have a gender but rather Aran appears as whichever gender the viewer most desires.

So the question isn't what gender is it but rather can we pineapple it.

hey. HEY.

i like flat chests but beside the point.. i could go into that tangent but i'd be slapped hard.
*flees thread*

It's k, me too. No lolis tho. You can't be having lolis up in my maple. Unless its like an 18+ loli.

@Spadow. Thanks for confirming how i though the tagging system works.

OT: I guess they wanted to minimize the amount of attacks you had to pick from while also maximizing dps not only sue to the boosting skills but also because of those passives that have a chance to trigger. Even with the low chance if you switch back and forth rapidly like in the hene training video you'll still have the same chance to trigger them, but it's also more likely that you'll be able to reap the benefits more easily.

Even if they end up getting nerfed I think it don't be that big of an impact. And the only two weeks thing makes sense. You have to use meso to upgrade its stuff but think of how much money nexon would loose out on if anyone could make this and be more or less unfunded and have no need for cubes and stuff. Not that everyone would play this let alone play it for that reason but hey its a thought.

I wonder what that lv 200 skill is that Max referred to. And if this class gets hypers I kinda hope they aren't buffs.

After looking at the skills and videos, I must say, I'm really disappointed.

It seems so.. boring. and I think a major part of that is that Zero is a warrior. I think Zero Alpha should have been a Bowman and Zero Beta a Thief or Pirate. the time stopping powers seem so wasted on a character which is basically just varying kinds of slashes with a sword.

Maybe you could set up Zero Alpha as a bowman turret through an assist while Zero Beta fights at close range with lots of flips and explosions. They need more interplay between attacks, rather than just tagging in and changing character.

Such wasted potential on just another lame sword swinging warrior. Nexon seriously needs to stop with their sexual fetish for Warriors.

If you are Alpha currently and want to become Beta, you just use a skill of Beta to tag. There is a cooldown of 3 seconds for tagging.

So...both characters have to share one hotkey setup?

Well, that just killed my interest. I play with a controller and there's no possible way I will fit two characters skills on one controller layout. I was hoping it was a skill (or multiple special skills) to tag them, and then their own skill sets would switch the hotkeys. Ugh.

Even with a keyboard that's really, really cumbersome.

So...both characters have to share one hotkey setup?

Well, that just killed my interest. I play with a controller and there's no possible way I will fit two characters skills on one controller layout. I was hoping it was a skill (or multiple special skills) to tag them, and then their own skill sets would switch the hotkeys. Ugh.

Even with a keyboard that's really, really cumbersome.

I have no idea how I'm going to fit all my skills on my keyboard and I love it.

A 15x video:

 Spoiler

[video=youtube;kBNtthmfz-I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBNtthmfz-I[/video]

Gameplay looks more exciting

And I'm hoping they at least change the bgms in the dungeons to the mirror versions. Doesn't make sense that the town has the mirror bgm and the dungeon has the original

Oh wow Alpha looks like hayato with wingbeat to me right now O.o

I wish my Paladin's hammer swings would have the same satisfying 'thuds' that Beta seems to be able to pull off.

A 15x video:

 Spoiler

[video=youtube;kBNtthmfz-I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBNtthmfz-I[/video]

Gameplay looks more exciting

And I'm hoping they at least change the bgms in the dungeons to the mirror versions. Doesn't make sense that the town has the mirror bgm and the dungeon has the original

Little known fact is that among his friends Zero was known as GOTTAGOFAST and his favorite character in Super Smash Bros was Sonic.

A 15x video:

 Spoiler

[video=youtube;kBNtthmfz-I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBNtthmfz-I[/video]

Gameplay looks more exciting

And I'm hoping they at least change the bgms in the dungeons to the mirror versions. Doesn't make sense that the town has the mirror bgm and the dungeon has the original

Every single video i've seen has been 95% Zero Alpha, using a Zero-Beta skill like once.

What's the point of having a tagging system when people only use Zero-Alpha.

Well I guess there probably will not be one of those 13.5 hour 200 races. Zero better have a really engaging storyline.

While most people seems to have something against Zero, I myself will embrace it with my arms open. As of right now it seems to be a class that doesn't require NX or doesn't require more than a bit of it, it has a deep storyline, unique gameplay and some awesome looking skills. IDK what the heck else could I ask from a new job.

All of you are thinking far too small, far too small. Aran is neither male or female, Aran doesn't actually have a gender but rather Aran appears as whichever gender the viewer most desires.

That logic applies to every character in maplestory. Thats exactly why all jobs but Angelic Burster have the option of choicing the gender of your character.

The issue here is that both female and male Aran got an unique charm, which turned into both being equally popular after their release. It didn't happen with Evan because Male and Female Evan were way too freaking smiliar and anyone after had its gender defined from release.

If at any point they decide to revamp Aran's history line, they will have to choice a gender to stick with so I hope something as trivial as "both are popular" doesn't become an obstacle.

Explain Phantom seeing Aran as both male and female in one timeline.

Bad game design?. Come on dude, we are talking about Nexon here.