Maker - Alchemy Skill FAQ and Walkthrough

I asked him, but he said he doesn't have time.

I asked him, but he said he doesn't have time.

It would have been great since I could get a head start on gathering all the items I need.

I asked him, but he said he doesn't have time.

I can post these, but Fiel is right that they're time consuming to translate into English and make understandable.

Link to post

What items do you need for the maker quest? I want to get the items now, before the prices for whatever you need increases tenfold.

What items do you need for the maker quest? I want to get the items now, before the prices for whatever you need increases tenfold.

For level 1 Maker skill, apparently you just talk to NPCs.

For the rest of the levels, Isaac isn't that high yet, so we'll have to have someone else tell us that.

For level 1 Maker skill, apparently you just talk to NPCs.

For the rest of the levels, Isaac isn't that high yet, so we'll have to have someone else tell us that.

2nd Teaching of Mullen
1 Mid Monster Crystal C - You can refine these with just Level 1 apparently?
3rd Teaching of Mullen
Paper with writing - Unclear on this, six gold, two steel.

2nd Teaching of Mullen
1 Mid Monster Crystal C - You can refine these with just Level 1 apparently?
3rd Teaching of Mullen
Paper with writing - Unclear on this, six gold, two steel.

Isaac mentioned a chance of getting a better Monster Crystal outcome if you refined enough etc items. So I'd say it's possible. Looks like this is going to be very annoying.

EDIT: At least until people break the 2nd Maker skill barrier xD

Isaac when you say Black Crystal and Dark Crystal add a Random stat...what happens when you use these on a Weapon?

Will you only get Attack...or will you have a chance of getting Hp or Avoid or some other useless unwanted effect?

Isaac when you say Black Crystal and Dark Crystal add a Random stat...what happens when you use these on a Weapon?

Will you only get Attack...or will you have a chance of getting Hp or Avoid or some other useless unwanted effect?

Black Crystals might possibly give weapon attack, but it's far from assured. Dark Crystals would not be able to give attack.

Read all 11 pages. I'm astounded by this skill.

I wonder when it's coming out. I'm both excited and fearful, for the sheer awesomeness (PLUS I HAVE BEEN SAVING ORES SINCE MAPLE EVER STARTED D) and the sheer possibilities it could have on the economy.

Honestly, I look forward to it the most because it will make pirate equips way more common, specifically knuckles.

My questions are:

FIRST
In this thread
http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6757

She says, for example, that the White Fangz knuckle needs "Mid B 28." I know she says it needs 4 mithrils, but what does she mean but Mid B 28? Does that mean you need 28 Mid B's to create that weapon, and then you can use ores on it over that? I think I get it.
So to make a White Fangz, I'd need 4 Mithrils, 28 Mid B crystals, and then if I wanted I could put a diamond and str crystal (Because it says it has 2 jewel slots).

How intriguing.

SECOND
if I forged 20 crystals to get high/mid/low
would the ratio roughly be
14:5:1
low:mid:high ?

Or would it be more like
17:2:1

Or perhaps
11:8:1


just to give me an idea.

FIRST

So to make a White Fangz, I'd need 4 Mithrils, 28 Mid B crystals, and then if I wanted I could put a diamond and str crystal (Because it says it has 2 jewel slots).

Correct.

Your #2 came out a bit garbled though because you're mixing terms.
I believe you're referring to grading jewels & crystals? Monster Crystals themselves are forged into levels based on the levels of mob etcs supplied, with a slight chance of getting better ones. I don't think anyone's got an exact ratio for how frequently a monster crystal comes out exceptional, or how often crystals and jewels grade at each level.

Zach, it is something like you described.

Low is the most common.

Middle is uncommon.

High is rare.

I'm referring to the gems/jewels/plates. It could be like that, but it really is a guessing game. It is all based on luck - you could land 5 high ones in a row, for example.

Correct.

Your #2 came out a bit garbled though because you're mixing terms.
I believe you're referring to grading jewels & crystals? Monster Crystals themselves are forged into levels based on the levels of mob etcs supplied, with a slight chance of getting better ones. I don't think anyone's got an exact ratio for how frequently a monster crystal comes out exceptional, or how often crystals and jewels grade at each level.

Yes, I meant jewel grades, sorry. It was late last night xD.

Alright, so no definite ratio as of now. That's good, that's good, I'll have to run a few test runs when it comes out then.
All my ores in the 5 mules I have filled with them will finally come in handy!

can a black crystal give attack on an armor?

can a black crystal give attack on an armor?

According to JMS, no. Both black and dark crystals effect STR, INT, DEX and LUK according to the following chart:

Crystal	Low Range	High Range
Low Black	-1	1
Mid Black	-2	2
High Black	-3	3
Low Dark	-2	2
Mid Dark	-3	3
High Dark	-5	5

I'm aware this is slightly different from Isaac's explanation of the dark and black, so either one of is wrong, or it's implemented differently between versions.

To answer the root of your question - Only sapphires and diamonds are restricted to weapons.

According to JMS, no. Both black and dark crystals effect STR, INT, DEX and LUK according to the following chart:

Crystal	Low Range	High Range
Low Black	-1	1
Mid Black	-2	2
High Black	-3	3
Low Dark	-2	2
Mid Dark	-3	3
High Dark	-5	5

I'm aware this is slightly different from Isaac's explanation of the dark and black, so either one of is wrong, or it's implemented differently between versions.

To answer the root of your question - Only sapphires and diamonds are restricted to weapons.

I'll go with your description because mine has a much more tenuous source. Does seem to make Black Crystals rather worthless though when you can get a low dark much easier than a mid Black.

I'll go with your description because mine has a much more tenuous source. Does seem to make Black Crystals rather worthless though when you can get a low dark much easier than a mid Black.

My translating isn't perfect, but one of the differences between them seems to be that one of them can only modify stats that already exist, or that would be added by other crystals in the recipe.

That would add a bit more differentiation to it, but the passage on that is pretty ambiguous.

How do i access the skill?

How do i access the skill?

Read the first post in the thread.

The skill is not (yet) available in GMS.

When it becomes available, there will be a quest for acquiring it (described in Isaac's post).
Once you have acquired it, I assume it will be in your skillbook ('k' key), and you can activate it by double-clicking on it there or (more commonly done) by assigning it to a key on your keyboard.

Im in JMS, where there is the maker skill. I did the quest, but its not in my skill menu.