Project Nostalgia

Well, this made me happy

Done. People can't follow rules or rules keep changing and I'm fed up with it. Was fun.

Done. People can't follow rules or rules keep changing and I'm fed up with it. Was fun.

The hell did I miss? o_o

There's confusion as to whether regular monster park is banned or not. Also members are frustrated about the rules being changed on a whim.

I think he is reacting to the current confusion about Monster Park after a discussion we had about an hour ago.

In the beginning, Monster Park Extreme was disallowed, but regular Monster Park was allowed. Mazz recently posted on the guild BBS that Regular Monster park wasn't allowed either. There are a LOT of us who have done MOnster park already, though, based on the initial rules. It's not that lucrative, but we were mostly looking for equipment. PQs are still better exp.

Mazz's argument is that MP is a party play zone. While true, Monster Park is not infinite. It is 1) limited number of entries, and 2) the number of mobs per MP run is always the same. This is far different than LHC or SH where you kill indefinitely. I think Mazz's argument is overly stringent, particularly since the window for Monster Park is pretty small anyway.

Interesting...

That and apparently FM Stores are allowed as I've seen a couple people with them in FMs. Also people are still doing MPExtreme.

Just decided to stop before I got really frustrated with the whole thing. It's not fun when people can't even abide by the rules anymore.

That and apparently FM Stores are allowed as I've seen a couple people with them in FMs. Also people are still doing MPExtreme.

Just decided to stop before I got really frustrated with the whole thing. It's not fun when people can't even abide by the rules anymore.

We. Must. Rebuild!
To Nova we go!?

That and apparently FM Stores are allowed as I've seen a couple people with them in FMs. Also people are still doing MPExtreme.

Just decided to stop before I got really frustrated with the whole thing. It's not fun when people can't even abide by the rules anymore.

Party play zones have always been against the rules, I didn't add monster park separately because I assumed that, seeing as it is a party play zone, people would know not to use it. But whatever. If you want to Monster Park then go ahead since people are already doing so. Monster Park Extreme however is definitely against the rules as a result of the stupid amount of EXP gain.

Who has been doing MPE? I'll just start kicking people from the guild I guess, if it's that much of an issue. In my naivety I figured that if people were willing to go out of their way to start in a new server they'd actually do it by the rules, but apparently not. Guess I have to start being more strict.

FM shops are another story. Do you guys think they should be allowed or banned? They do come under the NX advantage category, but personally I don't really care too much either way.

Also, and this goes for everyone, in the future if you're unsure on a rule, rather than changing it yourself and then telling everyone that it is an actual rule:



Post here and ask.

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Regarding this:

 What this guild really needs is more drama, and an extreme police enforcement group

Anyone else that chooses to MPE will be expelled too.

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If you guys see anyone breaking a rule, take a screenshot of their character and post it here. I can't be online all the time (and I'm probably not going to be on too much until the hellbans are fixed, not being able to drop stuff is a pain in the ass) so I'll need you to help me enforce the rules.

My feeling on shops is that Permits be allowed, but mushies disallowed. We need to be able to sell stuff in order to raise funds. Permit shops require your presence and actual time. Mushy shops are a luxury. I have a permit shop and have been selling stuff for people in the guild.

We. Must. Rebuild!
To Nova we go!?

I like Nova. Just waiting for the free character slot...

[MENTION=2375]Mazz[/MENTION]; Shops seem reasonable, as people now have some stuff they can sell and not everyone wants to stand (or is able to) hawking wares at the entrance. Or we could have a guild shop?
Evo world, with out exp/hp/spawn cores seems fine, except maybe during 2x. The rooms (besides 3) are not amazing exp as far as i remeber, and it gives you something else to do.

People are seriously complaining about permit shops? They've been here since the near beginning; They're far older than MP3, 4th jobs, and plenty of other things. There's no point in restricting them. It's not an "advantage", it's a convenience. CUBING is an advantage, plain and simple. Same with 2x exp and drop.

We. Must. Rebuild!
To Nova we go!?

But with Nova comes Bellocan.

My feeling on shops is that Permits be allowed, but mushies disallowed. We need to be able to sell stuff in order to raise funds. Permit shops require your presence and actual time. Mushy shops are a luxury. I have a permit shop and have been selling stuff for people in the guild.

Fair point. Regular store permits are fine I guess.

[MENTION=2375]Mazz[/MENTION]; Shops seem reasonable, as people now have some stuff they can sell and not everyone wants to stand (or is able to) hawking wares at the entrance. Or we could have a guild shop?
Evo world, with out exp/hp/spawn cores seems fine, except maybe during 2x. The rooms (besides 3) are not amazing exp as far as i remeber, and it gives you something else to do.

Thorr is pretty much the guild shop already from what I gather =P Evolving World isn't going to be changed as a rule, mostly because there isn't any way of knowing which cores people are using inside. Someone could be in room 5 with drop rate/equip/spawn cores on and no one would be able to tell.

Rules have been updated for clarification on page 1, if anything is unclear, ask.

I too believe normal permits should be allowed. (late to the party though)

I feel that anything that was around before E.X.P.losion with the exception of 2x cards should be pretty okay. Exceptions are some newer PQ's and party play areas.

But with Nova comes Bellocan.

This is true. However, Bellocan + Nova is least populated compared to the other world alliances as well as other worlds (Scania, Bera, Broa, Windia, Khaini)
Also, Bellocan + Nova is least likely to hold Southperry characters from what I've seen. Not many ppl from Southperry play in either of those worlds.
So we can all begin anew.

Not saying LegacyReborn should die in Renegades. Simply, LegacyReborn part 2.
Just a thought, to try again with concrete rules. I'm in.

Also, Bellocan + Nova is least likely to hold Southperry characters from what I've seen. Not many ppl from Southperry play in either of those worlds.
So we can all begin anew.

No offense, but you don't pay attention to your fellow Southperry members.

We have at least 20 people who are semi-active to active posters on Southperry and are active in Bellocan-Nova.

No offense, but you don't pay attention to your fellow Southperry members.

We have at least 20 people who are semi-active to active posters on Southperry and are active in Bellocan-Nova.

I must've missed that then. I apologize. May I suggest Broa then?
Seeing as Broa is currently lacking in population in general, according to a GMS server population tracker I just found.

In my naivety I figured that if people were willing to go out of their way to start in a new server they'd actually do it by the rules, but apparently not. Guess I have to start being more strict.

FM shops are another story. Do you guys think they should be allowed or banned? They do come under the NX advantage category, but personally I don't really care too much either way.

Yeah, I thought people were joining for the spirit. I did Monster Park a couple times solo to try to get some decent equips but not much came of it. With no funding on an adventurer it wasn't good exp so I didn't think anything of it but I can stay away.

I'm ok with people having FM shops, they're a fairly minor NX advantage and can be shared among the guild anyway. Personally I haven't actually sold anything yet, I just give items away if they're useful to anyone in the guild.

Bellocan-Nova.

what is this bellocan you speak of