KMS 1.2.193 - Dawn Warrior Revamp and Colossus
#61
HighOnMushrooms Wrote:They changed it a while back, it really sucks :/ All the bonus experience you can get (like from equipment, from 2x experience events, coupons) all go on different lines and only apply to the base experience of the monster.
There must be a screenshot of this somewhere. I have to see this to believe it.
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#62
Thorr Wrote:There must be a screenshot of this somewhere. I have to see this to believe it.

From the 2x Event this morning (well, last night in Korea)

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The lines are:
Base EXP
Bonus EXP (From the 2x Event)
Mercedes Link EXP
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#63
Thorr Wrote:There must be a screenshot of this somewhere. I have to see this to believe it.

[Image: KAkOG4A.jpg]
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#64
HighOnMushrooms Wrote:They changed it a while back, it really sucks :/ All the bonus experience you can get (like from equipment, from 2x experience events, coupons) all go on different lines and only apply to the base experience of the monster.

... how long ago are we talking? I have a bad feeling that I might already know Tongue
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#65
Zerard Wrote:... how long ago are we talking? I have a bad feeling that I might already know Tongue

Since at least the week of Xenon's release. It's been gradually changing slowly, it began with the Mercedes skill and then they changed it for everything.
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#66
Oh my god. Unlimited already looked bad, but I was kinda on the edge about it. THIS pushes me over that edge. Unlimited fucking sucks.
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#67
So, wait, exp bonuses don't stack anymore? No point buying a 2x card during a 2x event? (They only add up to 3x instead of 4x as before)

What about HS?
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#68
Locked Wrote:Since at least the week of Xenon's release. It's been gradually changing slowly, it began with the Mercedes skill and then they changed it for everything.

So... I was correct (more or less).

 Reaction of Impending Doom

Dear God NexonNA don't follow suit
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#69
SaptaZapta Wrote:So, wait, exp bonuses don't stack anymore? No point buying a 2x card during a 2x event? (They only add up to 3x instead of 4x as before)

What about HS?

From what I understand, the bonuses still apply but only to the original experience points that a monster has. For example, a Scarecrow gives 220 EXP each. Right now the experience buffs stacks and everything, so let's say you got HS and 2x card. 2 x 220 (440) and with HS (1.5 x 440), it becomes 660 EXP each Scarecrow. With this new system, it's only 2 x 220 (440) and 1.5 x 220(330) so that comes out to be 440 + 330 EXP on separate lines.
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#70
SaptaZapta Wrote:So, wait, exp bonuses don't stack anymore? No point buying a 2x card during a 2x event? (They only add up to 3x instead of 4x as before)

What about HS?

Applies to HS too, got its own line and everything, unfortunately.

 Without HS

 With HS

This is quite upsetting.

Jigsaw Wrote:With this new system, it's only 2 x 220 (440) and 1.5 x 220(330) so that comes out to be 440 + 330 EXP on separate lines.

It would be:
220 Base EXP
220 Bonus EXP from 2x
110 Bonus EXP from 1.5x

Which is 550 EXP, since you're multiplying 220 by both 2x and 1.5x, you're accounting for the base EXP twice, like this

220 Base EXP

The 440 is:
220 Base EXP
220 Bonus EXP from 2x

And the 330 is:
220 Base EXP
110 Bonus EXP from 1.5x

You'd only get one base line, as above, and then each of the bonus lines. (220+220+110).
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#71
iAmFear Wrote:Applies to HS too, got its own line and everything, unfortunately.

 Without HS

 With HS

This is quite upsetting.



It would be:
220 Base EXP
220 Bonus EXP from 2x
110 Bonus EXP from 1.5x

Which is 550 EXP, since you're multiplying by both 2x and 1.5x, you're accounting for the base EXP twice, like this

The 440 is:
220 Base EXP
220 Bonus EXP from 2x

And the 330 is:
220 Base EXP
110 Bonus EXP from 1.5x

You'd only get one base line, as above.

Garbage. Complete. Garbage.

If this comes state-side, I might consider quitting Tongue
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#72
Are they TRYING to force players to quit? it certainly seems like it.

Pretty much my entire strategy for reaching level 200 hinges on all the exp going towards the base line like it does currently, then with 6x exp and lots of 10% lines on top of that.

This is motivating me more to get to 200 this weekend, while it's still easy and not this pomegranate which KMS seems to be throwing at their keyboards.
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#73
iAmFear Wrote:Applies to HS too, got its own line and everything, unfortunately.

 Without HS

 With HS

This is quite upsetting.



It would be:
220 Base EXP
220 Bonus EXP from 2x
110 Bonus EXP from 1.5x

Which is 550 EXP, since you're multiplying 220 by both 2x and 1.5x, you're accounting for the base EXP twice, like this

220 Base EXP

The 440 is:
220 Base EXP
220 Bonus EXP from 2x

And the 330 is:
220 Base EXP
110 Bonus EXP from 1.5x

You'd only get one base line, as above, and then each of the bonus lines. (220+220+110).

It's no wonder why I'm not majoring in Math. Oh well, can't say I didn't try explaining.
Thanks for correcting me. =)
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#74
Okay, that experience change was bad enough when it applied to dice. Now that I know it applies to everything, I officially hate Unlimited even more.
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#75
Razmos Wrote:Are they TRYING to force players to quit? it certainly seems like it.

Pretty much my entire strategy for reaching level 200 hinges on all the exp going towards the base line like it does currently, then with 6x exp and lots of 10% lines on top of that.

This is motivating me more to get to 200 this weekend, while it's still easy and not this pomegranate which KMS seems to be throwing at their keyboards.

Not to mention how horrible leveling to level 250 must be.
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#76
I haven't said this about maple in a long time (even through all the changes along the way), but this is downright awful.
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#77
Made a post on the 'why is everyone worried about unlimited' thread, since this is quite the piece of news.

Unfortunately, another thread got bumped up mere minutes after I did so. So posting here as well. Hopefully Girasol can shed some light... Hopefully.
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#78
Jigsaw Wrote:Not to mention how horrible leveling to level 250 must be.

Yea seriously. Nexon raises the level cap, but gives us very little reason to actually want to grind to 250. Then they release some new training areas, which are utter crap. Now they go and change how you obtain exp to make 2x events, cards, and hs worse?

Are you s'hitting me here? I don't follow their logic at all.
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#79
Does easy mode Ark drop the scrolls for the dominator pendant?
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#80
Zerard Wrote:Made a post on the 'why is everyone worried about unlimited' thread, since this is quite the piece of news.

Unfortunately, another thread got bumped up mere minutes after I did so. So posting here as well. Hopefully Girasol can shed some light... Hopefully.

Since Girasol probably knows how upset we'd be if it was confirmed, I am sure that Nexon would not let him say nor even hint if it would be true. That's just good PR practice. We'd only possibly hear it if it was NOT true. Last thing Nexon would want is a premature player revolt and mass exodus.
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