Curtiss Wrote:So it would be better to try and hunt for tradeable gear after? I'm not putting a lot of effort into it, it's just that I need some reason to stay logged in for half an hour each day for some log-in gift.
Just how awful are Additional Options anyway?
My understanding is that it completely destroys all gear you will ever see beforehand, regardless of how well it was scrolled. The only gear that has a chance is high stat%.
Polantaris Wrote:My understanding is that it completely destroys all gear you will ever see beforehand, regardless of how well it was scrolled. The only gear that has a chance is high stat%.
NEXON How sad is it when you can't even take advantage of a 2x drop buff so that your card/link skill mules can use the same gear forever?
New Henesys has to be my favourite thing about this patch especially as it's my former main's hometown. While I hope content will actually be added still making the game look more crisp is a nice thing too.
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Polantaris Wrote:My understanding is that it completely destroys all gear you will ever see beforehand, regardless of how well it was scrolled. The only gear that has a chance is high stat%.
Are you reading something im not? Additional Options are pretty straight forward, ill paste what Max had to say:
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Items have become more powerful! Equipment from drops, blacksmithing, and shops will have a chance to come with Additional Options! These additional stats will appear as orange text beside the regular stats of the item (Note: this means that Additional Options, above average stats, and scrolled stats will all be combined into one number).
-You can receive 1 to 4 Options per item and there are five ranks of Additional Options, each with better stats.
-Certain boss items will always receive 4 Options, and have a greater chance of getting higher ranked stats.
-Items that drop may also vary in required level.
Only weapons, armor, accessories, and pocket items can have Additional Options. This does not include secondary weapons and shields, rings, or medals. If youre lucky, youll also receive the extra Additional Options that are possible to get (% total damage, % all stats, % boss damage, and reduction in required level). These will appear in bolded white text.
A new item called the Flame of Reincarnation has been added! This item was made for equipment from before this update, it gives Additional Options to items! There are 5 different kinds, each for a different level range. The Flame of Reincarnation drops from boss monsters, and the more difficult bosses will drop the higher level Flames.
However, when you use a Flame on an item, it will become untradeable on equipping and receive a Scissor count of 5. This means that you can use a maximum of 5 Karma Scissors (Platinum if the item requires it) before it becomes completely untradeable.
For items that were initially fully tradeable (like a weapon), it will also become untradeable on equipping. However, when the item is equipped, you will need to use the new Silver Karma Scissors. They are available through in-game means, you do not need to buy them from the Cash Shop~
Fully untradeable items (those that cant be scissored at all) will stay untradeable, will not gain a scissor count, and will only receive additional options.
I do not really understand why you are saying this will destroy old gear. Flames of Reincarnation can grant the same amount of additional options to old gear that new gear can have. Of course, I do understand that making an item only tradeable with the new scissors and only tradeable 5 times is a pain for people with many alts. Then again, for people with just 1 main it isn't much of a big deal.
Well, for someone like me who invested a lot of effort into getting powerful tradeable equips (such as my 18% INT Belt which I trade between my Battle Mage and Kanna), additional options kinda screw me over.
That being said, a lot of my items are still untradeable like my pocket items, shoulders, weapons, any empress item ect. but my gloves, cape, belt and shoes are going to be very weak compared to new items. Forcing me to make my items untradeable is a little unfair, the silver scissor count thing is just stupid and unnecessary and is the ONLY thing about Additional Options which fucks over every single person who spent time, and more importantly money on getting the best equips before this update.
They screwed people over and made what people spent worth less, simply because they could, it's a plantain move.
Anyway, in regards to Dawn Warrior, I watched a few videos of it's skills and I'm not that impressed, it's like a cross between Hayato and Mihile, but more boring.
This is borderline retarded. They just had to make this class only 2-H Sword Wielder AS IF KAISER ISN'T EVEN ENOUGH! Why can't they just keep it the way it is?
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Razmos Wrote:Well, for someone like me who invested a lot of effort into getting powerful tradeable equips (such as my 18% INT Belt which I trade between my Battle Mage and Kanna), additional options kinda screw me over.
That being said, a lot of my items are still untradeable like my pocket items, shoulders, weapons, any empress item ect. but my gloves, cape, belt and shoes are going to be very weak compared to new items. Forcing me to make my items untradeable is a little unfair, the silver scissor count thing is just stupid and unnecessary and is the ONLY thing about Additional Options which fucks over every single person who spent time, and more importantly money on getting the best equips before this update.
They screwed people over and made what people spent worth less, simply because they could, it's a plantain move.
Anyway, in regards to Dawn Warrior, I watched a few videos of it's skills and I'm not that impressed, it's like a cross between Hayato and Mihile, but more boring.
screwing you over would be putting in this new system and not giving you flame of reincarnation.
your old gear isnt going to be leagues worse than new, it just wont have additional options on it from the get go.
just use flame of reincarnation :l this seriously isnt that bad.
Razmos Wrote:Anyway, in regards to Dawn Warrior, I watched a few videos of it's skills and I'm not that impressed, it's like a cross between Hayato and Mihile, but more boring.
Razmos Wrote:Well, for someone like me who invested a lot of effort into getting powerful tradeable equips (such as my 18% INT Belt which I trade between my Battle Mage and Kanna), additional options kinda screw me over.
That being said, a lot of my items are still untradeable like my pocket items, shoulders, weapons, any empress item ect. but my gloves, cape, belt and shoes are going to be very weak compared to new items. Forcing me to make my items untradeable is a little unfair, the silver scissor count thing is just stupid and unnecessary and is the ONLY thing about Additional Options which fucks over every single person who spent time, and more importantly money on getting the best equips before this update.
They screwed people over and made what people spent worth less, simply because they could, it's a plantain move.
Anyway, in regards to Dawn Warrior, I watched a few videos of it's skills and I'm not that impressed, it's like a cross between Hayato and Mihile, but more boring.
That's why I'm not planning to spend any more and if my Phantom really does get outclassed with these new equips Nexon can have my middle finger pointing at them. PsoKs are retarded and so is ANY money-making scheme from items that I bought/cubed myself. Let's be real, PSoKs cost RM 37.50 for ONE at MSEA and I can get a good book for slightly less than that; why would I sacrifice a good book to transfer over an item to some other overrated class anyway?
Btw I have some videos of Dawn Warrior/Soul Master, though I suppose by now some are available on youtube. I'm busy rendering and uploading them now, so if you're interested in the skills do watch the videos~
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Curtiss Wrote:That's why I'm not planning to spend any more and if my Phantom really does get outclassed with these new equips Nexon can have my middle finger pointing at them. PsoKs are retarded and so is ANY money-making scheme from items that I bought/cubed myself. Let's be real, PSoKs cost RM 37.50 for ONE at MSEA and I can get a good book for slightly less than that; why would I sacrifice a good book to transfer over an item to some other overrated class anyway?
as far as scissors, the only thing Flame makes you buy is the new scissors for items that were previously fully tradeable, and the scissors are bought in-game with no NX. all items that required Psok before will still require it, but the flame does not make you have to buy psoks.
LiquidSwing Wrote:as far as scissors, the only thing Flame makes you buy is the new scissors for items that were previously fully tradeable, and the scissors are bought in-game with no NX. all items that required Psok before will still require it, but the flame does not make you have to buy psoks.
1) They still become fully untradeable after some time, no?
2) You forget which server I'm playing in. It's practically guaranteed that something somewhere will screw up, oh joy!
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Curtiss Wrote:1) They still become fully untradeable after some time, no?
2) You forget which server I'm playing in. It's practically guaranteed that something somewhere will screw up, oh joy!
its just after 5 transfers, which definitely hurts people that use their gear across multiple characters.
LiquidSwing Wrote:screwing you over would be putting in this new system and not giving you flame of reincarnation.
your old gear isnt going to be leagues worse than new, it just wont have additional options on it from the get go.
just use flame of reincarnation :l this seriously isnt that bad.
But then my items would become untradeable. We have enough untradeable equips in game as it is :/
There was no reason for them to make Flames give items a scissor count. Who does that benefit? It doesn't affect the economy, since all the best items drop after the patch. making them untradeable just pushes old items out of circulation, so that people cube and scroll new ones. Oh look, more money for Nexon, more inconvenience for players.
LiquidSwing Wrote:its just after 5 transfers, which definitely hurts people that use their gear across multiple characters.
Just after 5 transfers. Okay, let's look at this scenario:
I main a Phantom and I'm planning to transfer my gear temporarily to my DB and Xenon for a level 200 deck. There's possibly a Nova thief too and I can't discount Sengoku; I'd probably like the Sengoku thief seeing that I'm fond of the other two.
Phantom -> DB -> Xenon -> ? -> ? would be the ideal scenario and even then my Phantom is going to be stuck without his equips unless I transfer it directly back to him after I'm done, and that's not taking into account that I typically change flavours like a Phantom switches skills. I LIKE playing my Phantom so what probably happens is that I level up two and ditch the others as link skill/card mules; the same would apply for any other Archer/Magician/Warrior/Pirate set because I'm not spending any more on this crap just because Nexon advertises these things as the best thing since sliced and buttered bread*, I AM DONE.
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Curtiss Wrote:Just after 5 transfers. Okay, let's look at this scenario:
I main a Phantom and I'm planning to transfer my gear temporarily to my DB and Xenon for a level 200 deck. There's possibly a Nova thief too and I can't discount Sengoku; I'd probably like the Sengoku thief seeing that I'm fond of the other two.
Phantom -> DB -> Xenon -> ? -> ? would be the ideal scenario and even then my Phantom is going to be stuck without his equips unless I transfer it directly back to him after I'm done, and that's not taking into account that I typically change flavours like a Phantom switches skills. I LIKE playing my Phantom so what probably happens is that I level up two and ditch the others as link skill/card mules; the same would apply for any other Archer/Magician/Warrior/Pirate set because I'm not spending any more on this crap just because Nexon advertises these things as the best thing since sliced and buttered bread*, I AM DONE.
*Because sliced bread is a little bland
ya man, its a pain lol. it could have been worse, though.
How sad is it when you can't even take advantage of a 2x drop buff so that your card/link skill mules can use the same gear forever?
While I hope content will actually be added still making the game look more crisp is a nice thing too.
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