North Korea threatened specific bases in Japan and Guam

As far as I know, the only real concern from anything North Korea does is for South Korea (i.e. Seoul) being demolished immediately, and the possibility of radioactive fallout if they use their "nukes" anywhere.

[MENTION=814]MasPan[/MENTION];

That made a lot more sense, thanks.

[MENTION=7450]MuscleWizard[/MENTION];

Idk what planet you live in, but imo, the U.S. is far from terrified of China.

There is a reason why chinese is the most commonly spoken language on the face of the earth. We may be powerful, but they outnumber us. If we go to war, we lose. They are the big dog. Never get into a land war with china.

There is a reason why chinese is the most commonly spoken language on the face of the earth. We may be powerful, but they outnumber us. If we go to war, we lose. They are the big dog. Never get into a land war with china.

By that same token, though, China would have a hard time invading the U.S. as well.

By that same token, though, China would have a hard time invading the U.S. as well.

Look at your Universities and Colleges. They already have.

Look at your Universities and Colleges. They already have.

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McDonalds exists in China. Your argument is invalid.[/COLOR]

To put things in perspective, in 2008 our army was estimated to be about a millon strong.
Active duty, including airforce and navy, around a million.


Our country has a population of a little over 300,000, 000 people.

So lets assume a 1/300 military to civilian ratio.

China has a populattion of around one point three billion.

Assuming they could militarize 1/300th of their population, that's an army four times the size of our entire military.

So yes, america has to be damn sure that they don't piss off china.

To put things in perspective, in 2008 our army was estimated to be about a millon strong.
Active duty, including airforce and navy, around a million.


Our country has a population of a little over 300,000, 000 people.

So lets assume a 1/300 military to civilian ratio.

China has a populattion of around one point three billion.

Assuming they could militarize 1/300th of their population, that's an army four times the size of our entire military.

So yes, america has to be damn sure that they don't piss off china.

[COLOR="#cc8899"]We are seperated from China by an ocean with no connecting landmass anywhere between us. The size of their army only matters if we invade them, otherwise any invasion they could attempt would be hugely limited by their ability to transport and supply a large force across the Pacific Ocean.

The same applies in reverse for us.[/COLOR]

[COLOR="#cc8899"]We are seperated from China by an ocean with no connecting landmass anywhere between us. The size of their army only matters if we invade them, otherwise any invasion they could attempt would be hugely limited by their ability to transport and supply a large force across the Pacific Ocean.

The same applies in reverse for us.[/COLOR]

You don't know anything about war, do you. Everyone knows your army spawns on the battlefield a set distance away from other enemies so you're not spawncamped.

All talk, no action.

All talk, no action.

thats why south koreans generally dont give a pomegranate.

So yes, america has to be damn sure that they don't piss off china.

You are missing the point. They may have more people, but war is fought differently now a days. When everyone has WMDs, the size of your army doesn't matter quite as much.

If anything, I am a lot more afraid of Chinese cyber attacks than anything else. Also the Russians, because who knows what the hell is going on in Siberia.

No one has brought up the fact that china going to war with us would be going to war with itself yet? disappointing southperry dissapointing

No one has brought up the fact that china going to war with us would be going to war with itself yet? disappointing southperry dissapointing

Elaborate, and if its the china owns us argument, stahp. Over 90% of our debt is in american held bonds.

Elaborate, and if its the china owns us argument, stahp. Over 90% of our debt is in american held bonds.

China has invested majority of its accelerated economy into US bonds, if our country falls apart so does their economy. Also 90% seems a little exaggerated, the last time I checked it was closer to the 40-55% percentile

http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/...not-china/

Back in 2011 it was about 40%

Just cause I dont know which forum exactly to post this in by itself, i'll add it to this thread.

[video=youtube;PdxPCeWw75k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdxPCeWw75k[/video]

Its well worth the watch (as most TED talks are).

Just cause I dont know which forum exactly to post this in by itself, i'll add it to this thread.


Its well worth the watch (as most TED talks are).

I've tried watching it but it's too fucked up for me to tolerate :|

I've tried watching it but it's too fucked up for me to tolerate :|

It's basically an immigrant story, but from North Korea instead of another asian country. She starts off around middle class/well off knowing only of NK, nothing of anything else (you know, typical dictatorship stuff), then a drought hits N Korea and pomegranate hits the fan and everyone is starving. She escapes to China, finds work and learns Chinese and tries to get her family out of N Korea (after getting some money) because her money she sent back was intercepted by the NK army and her fam was about to get sent to a concentration camp. The rest of the story includes massive amounts of corrupt police, close calls with other police "random checks", and finally some financial assistance from teh S. Korean embassy to get her family released. Happy ending at the least. I agree her accent makes it really hard to understand, but it is a very engaging story to listen to and a large amount of insight into what N Korea actually does to it's people (assuming you are not a politician, army person, or some rich guy who knows people).

China has invested majority of its accelerated economy into US bonds, if our country falls apart so does their economy. Also 90% seems a little exaggerated, the last time I checked it was closer to the 40-55% percentile

http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/...not-china/

Back in 2011 it was about 40%

poor phrasing on my part, i meant that 90% of it wasn't china's.

It's basically an immigrant story, but from North Korea instead of another asian country. She starts off around middle class/well off knowing only of NK, nothing of anything else (you know, typical dictatorship stuff), then a drought hits N Korea and pomegranate hits the fan and everyone is starving. She escapes to China, finds work and learns Chinese and tries to get her family out of N Korea (after getting some money) because her money she sent back was intercepted by the NK army and her fam was about to get sent to a concentration camp. The rest of the story includes massive amounts of corrupt police, close calls with other police "random checks", and finally some financial assistance from teh S. Korean embassy to get her family released. Happy ending at the least. I agree her accent makes it really hard to understand, but it is a very engaging story to listen to and a large amount of insight into what N Korea actually does to it's people (assuming you are not a politician, army person, or some rich guy who knows people).

Oh no, that's not what I meant, just the whole story (that you read to me, THANKS) was so heartbreaking

[MENTION=63]Sn1perJohnE[/MENTION];

I was wondering if someone was going to post that. Nice video