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They probably just used Rare -> Unique as an example. They didn't specify that an item can't jump from Epic to Legendary so I wouldn't go straight to assuming that it can't.
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Green4Ever Wrote:They probably just used Rare -> Unique as an example. They didn't specify that an item can't jump from Epic to Legendary so I wouldn't go straight to assuming that it can't.
lol that wont be possible nexon wouldnt allow such a powerful jump epic to legendary in one cube... they would lose ton of money
cuz unique and legendary are the main reason they make money... and btw goodluck trying to get epic to legendary in one cube .. .cuz that wont be possible
i read from max on orangemushroom he already said that about the double time that it only work on rare ....
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Question Wrote:lol that wont be possible nexon wouldnt allow such a powerful jump epic to legendary in one cube... they would lose ton of money
cuz unique and legendary are the main reason they make money... and btw goodluck trying to get epic to legendary in one cube .. .cuz that wont be possible
i read from max on orangemushroom he already said that about the double time that it only work on rare ....
They won't lose any money. Tons of people will go out and buy NX in anticipation for this. They will MAKE money.
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They still nerf significant stats rate so they make money off the following sales. Double time being a loss for nexon is hilarious.
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So that's why they explicitly stated that this Miracle Time is a, "Double" one in the event tab.
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So it's safe to assume the rates for ranking up will remain the same, they've just allowed tier skipping?
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MCPV Wrote:So it's safe to assume the rates for ranking up will remain the same, they've just allowed tier skipping?
Nexon Wrote:During the event, youll have a 2x rate of increasing your potentials rank through Miracle Cubes!
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So double the rate of upgrades and the chance to go up 2 ranks? Holy s'hit...
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It disappoints me that Nexon even has better cash grabbing methods than the ultimate cash grabbing server.  This is the kind of thing that'd persuade me to go for full set Cygnus, pineapple it all!
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Hmm... I'm a little bit tempted to use my stash of occult cubes to try and rank from epic > rare to see what the rate of skipping epic is like. For science.
I wonder if all miracle times are going to be like this from now on?
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Green4Ever Wrote:They won't lose any money. Tons of people will go out and buy NX in anticipation for this. They will MAKE money.
it depends on how you look at it. in the short term, they make more money. in the long term, they lose out money on the cost it would take to upgrade equipments from epic > unique, and from unique to legendary. Short Term gain vs Long Term gain. Your POV is short term, questions is looking at the long term.
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Dudewitbow Wrote:it depends on how you look at it. in the short term, they make more money. in the long term, they lose out money on the cost it would take to upgrade equipments from epic > unique, and from unique to legendary. Short Term gain vs Long Term gain. Your POV is short term, questions is looking at the long term.
Yes, but the money taken to get your desired potential is also substantial. Put it this way, the rank ups are given to encourage people to cube later on so they can proceed to their next cube sale and earn again since there's more active players at GMS than say, MSEA while people whose items are stuck at rare/epic are much less likely to even bother cubing.
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Curtiss Wrote:Yes, but the money taken to get your desired potential is also substantial. Put it this way, the rank ups are given to encourage people to cube later on so they can proceed to their next cube sale and earn again since there's more active players at GMS than say, MSEA while people whose items are stuck at rare/epic are much less likely to even bother cubing.
which is still a short term gain vs long term gain thing. your scenario shows one of the possible outcomes(doesn't mean it necessarily will happen) after the short term gain. Whether or not it will become true is up in the air. Events like this is an incentive, but whether the profit gained from this incentive + possible future incentive that has to directly correlate as an outcome of this effect is less than, equal tom or greater than not having the event at all and having people cube like they always have(and will as long as there IS a demand for power) is the question.
to give a hypothetical situation of a negative that happened irl to a classmate of mines studying a specific massage parlor is groupon. Groupon, as some will know is a coupon that works when used in groups. its goal is not really to gain profit but to advertise their business, as they are actually gaining little or even losing profit per groupon use(in this case, was an entire loss, 30$ massage down to 9$ per person in group). They bet on the hopes that with more recognition, people may return and buy a normal treatment. In this case, they actually loss and most people who used the groupon never returned. Of course that's just one of the bad outcomes. Its usually more effective, say in a restaurant business where people are more likely to return.
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Dudewitbow Wrote:which is still a short term gain vs long term gain thing. your scenario shows one of the possible outcomes(doesn't mean it necessarily will happen) after the short term gain. Whether or not it will become true is up in the air. Events like this is an incentive, but whether the profit gained from this incentive + possible future incentive that has to directly correlate as an outcome of this effect is less than, equal tom or greater than not having the event at all and having people cube like they always have(and will as long as there IS a demand for power) is the question.
to give a hypothetical situation of a negative that happened irl to a classmate of mines studying a specific massage parlor is groupon. Groupon, as some will know is a coupon that works when used in groups. its goal is not really to gain profit but to advertise their business, as they are actually gaining little or even losing profit per groupon use(in this case, was an entire loss, 30$ massage down to 9$ per person in group). They bet on the hopes that with more recognition, people may return and buy a normal treatment. In this case, they actually loss and most people who used the groupon never returned. Of course that's just one of the bad outcomes. Its usually more effective, say in a restaurant business where people are more likely to return.
That scenario may work in MSEA since we've had a grand total of one Miracle Time, but given that cubing-inclined players in GMS know roughly when will a Miracle Time be out I find it unlikely that any but the most desperate people would use cubes for ranking up outside of Miracle Time when using it now has a better chance of getting their desired tier. I don't know how is the case like with other people that cube, but in my case I would not even bother cubing at a high rate unless my item is already unique and above and I don't bother to get to that rank unless there's a discount or I can buy the item pre-cubed.
I wouldn't say Groupon is an excellent example of this in play because unique and legend tier items are effectively useless if you have complete junk potential on them so you will have to re-cube at some point and people who do things like bossing may indeed resort to cubing without discounts if that were the case. In Groupon's case however, what you get from it is not always tied to another event (As you said, that one visits a spa now does not mean they'd re-visit since most people that frequent spas may already have membership) so the chance of a re-visit is less likely than if the discount given was for something important, like say a medical check-up. Also, given that Nexon has at least one of these cube sales in a month I'm going to say that they treat the sales as a long-term plan to get revenue in bursts.
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[MENTION=7833]Dudewitbow[/MENTION]; If they weren't making money with it, they wouldn't be doing it. I'm sure they have internal revenue reviews.
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http://leafre.net/korean-maplestory-anno...ime-25011/
I read from max and other fourm and no one has gotten epic to legendary in one cube .... cuz it wont happen and never will untill nexon decide them
and i more info from leafre.net also saying the same thing that you can only get double rank up from rare level
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Question Wrote:http://leafre.net/korean-maplestory-anno...ime-25011/
I read from max and other fourm and no one has gotten epic to legendary in one cube .... cuz it wont happen and never will untill nexon decide them
and i more info from leafre.net also saying the same thing that you can only get double rank up from rare level
That doesn't prove anything because they literally said the exact same thing as Nexon did. That's more of a translation issue than confirmation.
I guess we will have to just wait and see
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Well the only way to get from Epic to Legendary is to use Super Cubes anyway, and nobody would use those on an epic item on the hopes of a rare chance at skipping Unique.
Whether it works or not, it isn't relevant because nobody would be stupid enough to try it.
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