Rand Paul's 13 hour Filibuster

There would be a revolution in this country LONG before it reached that point. Half the country is already on the edge of it now. That's the most extreme example of why guns are important; if the government has become too corrupt, they exist to allow the people a forceful method of overthrowing it.

Guns aren't important in the least.

The right to own a gun was created back when the country was still wild and it had many threats. In this day and age there is literally no threat to America except Americans themselves. The guns used to be almost a necessity in protecting yourself and your land, but now it's actually what assaults you and robs you of what's yours.

There is no possible way civilians would ever forcefully overthrow the US government. It literally cannot ever be done. They would get crushed like grapes regardless of their basic weaponry. It'd be like ants throwing specks of dirt at a rhino's thick ass. So if the government did in fact become even more corrupt to the point of hostility towards its own people you better believe we'd stand no chance in hell in defending ourselves.

The idiots who believe they can fight back with force will be the first to drop dead.

Guns aren't important in the least.

The right to own a gun was created back when the country was still wild and it had many threats. In this day and age there is literally no threat to America except Americans themselves. The guns used to be almost a necessity in protecting yourself and your land, but now it's actually what assaults you and robs you of what's yours.

There is no possible way civilians would ever forcefully overthrow the US government. It literally cannot ever be done. They would get crushed like grapes regardless of their basic weaponry. It'd be like ants throwing specks of dirt at a rhino's thick ass. So if the government did in fact become even more corrupt to the point of hostility towards its own people you better believe we'd stand no chance in hell in defending ourselves.

The idiots who believe they can fight back with force will be the first to drop dead.

I disagree on the idea the fact that majority of the government, besides essentially the law making individuals, are pretty fed up with the government. If there was a rebellion, the government would fall in less than a week.


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5 minutes of dodging questions and 15 seconds of actual content. Standard politician response, yeah? The answer given is now acceptable at least, the question is, will they hold to it? Lying comes as naturally as breathing to these people.

5 minutes of dodging questions and 15 seconds of actual content. Standard politician response, yeah? The answer given is now acceptable at least, the question is, will they hold to it? Lying comes as naturally as breathing to these people.

The point is they released a certified press release of their intentional implementation of the law. Whether or not it holds through honesty is irrelevant as of right now because that's not the intention. At this current time, your point would hold ground in an ambiguous manner where even if it was written in the law, in plain text they cannot, will not, or refuse, it comes down to a citizens trust issue. But the fact we got a confirmed statement this is not something they intend to do, we have to take their word for it until they break the law (in either case).

I disagree on the idea the fact that majority of the government, besides essentially the law making individuals, are pretty fed up with the government. If there was a rebellion, the government would fall in less than a week.

Standard firearms are impractical and obsolete tools for warfare. The destructive capabilities of the United States Armed Forces should neither be underestimated, nor challenged at this point; the notion of a rebellion is simply absurd.

With that being said, I feel that Rand Paul's thirteen hour filibuster was futile, to say the least. In many situations, drones are far more effective at removing threats than human soldiers in such a way that the mechanization of the military makes these procedures much more practical and cost-effective. The primary attribute I sense from this man--much like many of his fellow right-wing politicians--is fear. I commend him for his efforts, but I entirely disagree with his sentiments.

Standard firearms are impractical and obsolete tools for warfare. The destructive capabilities of the United States Armed Forces should neither be underestimated, nor challenged at this point; the notion of a rebellion is simply absurd.

With that being said, I feel that Rand Paul's thirteen hour filibuster was futile, to say the least. In many situations, drones are far more effective at removing threats than human soldiers in such a way that the mechanization of the military makes these procedures much more practical and cost-effective. The primary attribute I sense from this man--much like many of his fellow right-wing politicians--is fear. I commend him for his efforts, but I entirely disagree with his sentiments.

...If you read all of the posts, the reason the military was not brought up in that single post was because it was already confronted. The armed forces are not happy with the boss right now especially with the budget cuts in their sector. (see cancellation of aircraft carrier to set off).

You do realize we have the magne carte that entirely conflicts with everything you say right? Seriously dude, please read the entirity of the discussion before coming up to rehash crap/old arguments.

...If you read all of the posts, the reason the military was not brought up in that single post was because it was already confronted. The armed forces are not happy with the boss right now especially with the budget cuts in their sector. (see cancellation of aircraft carrier to set off).

You do realize we have the magne carte that entirely conflicts with everything you say right? Seriously dude, please read the entirity of the discussion before coming up to rehash crap/old arguments.

I have read everything. I agree with 案山子 on that point, and disagree with you.

I have read everything. I agree with 案山子 on that point, and disagree with you.

You can irrationally disagree with me but your points have no ground to stand on, which if you read all of the thread as you claimed, you'd understand that.

You can irrationally disagree with me but your points have no ground to stand on, which if you read all of the thread as you claimed, you'd understand that.

I agree with you on nearly every point you made in this thread, except "if there was a rebellion, the government would fall in less than a week". Where is the source to this claim?

I agree with you on nearly every point you made in this thread, except "if there was a rebellion, the government would fall in less than a week". Where is the source to this claim?

I'm confused, my opinion is the filibuster clarified a much needed answer about drones in terms of american citizens, whether they will be honest to it or not is entirely up to the governments future.

My opinion on the government is the negative impact they have greatly put on the military these past years. I'm from 3 generations of military so I get all the infromation of active duty military in the mail, email what have you. They are not happy with the cuts, with the medicare and just puts a lot of unnecessary stress on struggling military families.

By knowing this perspective my assumption (although not fact) I believe the military will drop the government when the civilians do.

I'm confused, my opinion is the filibuster clarified a much needed answer about drones in terms of american citizens, whether they will be honest to it or not is entirely up to the governments future.

My opinion on the government is the negative impact they have greatly put on the military these past years. I'm from 3 generations of military so I get all the infromation of active duty military in the mail, email what have you. They are not happy with the cuts, with the medicare and just puts a lot of unnecessary stress on struggling military families.

By knowing this perspective my assumption (although not fact) I believe the military will drop the government when the civilians do.

Thank you for clarifying.

I just find it difficult to believe that the military as a whole would side against the rest of the government. Who would they revolt against? Only the federal government? The entire congress? The federal, state, and local governments? The executive branch? I could understand that many members of the military would revolt if this happened, but surely there would be those who are still loyal to the government, yes? Wouldn't they be in control of most of the weapons?

Thank you for clarifying.

I just find it difficult to believe that the military as a whole would side against the rest of the government. Who would they revolt against? Only the federal government? The entire congress? The federal, state, and local governments? The executive branch? I could understand that many members of the military would revolt if this happened, but surely there would be those who are still loyal to the government, yes? Wouldn't they be in control of most of the weapons?

It's all speculation but my personal opinion is that congress/white house would be the targets and that majority of the necessary workforce will leave, which will cause the collapse, not killing everyone in sight.