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Polantaris Wrote:There was a discussion between JoeTang and I where we talked about it.
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php...ost1020877
It has too high of a delay and as a result even when maxed it has about a 700% DPS decrease compared to just spamming Shisen Gyouha.
If I remember correctly, there was mention of something like where if you did max damage, you could end up doing more because your Hits/sec would be higher, but that doesn't really matter considering in a few months you won't be able to hit cap. Ah okay. Then a question. Since Shinsen Gyouha has a thunder element to it, wouldn't that make kanna very bad against thunder strong bosses and mobs?
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Jettono Wrote:They repeated the block of text about victory coming at a cost under the Sengoku Shop section.
Nitpicking aside, I am doubleplusexcite about this. Yeah, they changed that pretty quickly though, Notify just didn't update the post. If you go on the official page it tells you more about the shop.
SwordStaker Wrote:Ah okay. Then a question. Since Shinsen Gyouha has a thunder element to it, wouldn't that make kanna very bad against thunder strong bosses and mobs? actually, looking closer at Fiel's extractions, -En and -Rei give Fire and Ice elements respectively, but no element is specified for -Retsu.
Is -Retsu actually element-neutral and it's just a different effect? i'm confused.
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Razmos Wrote:Is -Retsu actually element-neutral and it's just a different effect? i'm confused.
I think I read somewhere that Retsu is thunder, but pretty much just provides knockback. I could be wrong, of course.
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Razmos Wrote:actually, looking closer at Fiel's extractions, -En and -Rei give Fire and Ice elements respectively, but no element is specified for -Retsu.
Is -Retsu actually element-neutral and it's just a different effect? i'm confused.
SwordStaker Wrote:Ah okay. Then a question. Since Shinsen Gyouha has a thunder element to it, wouldn't that make kanna very bad against thunder strong bosses and mobs?
So actually, in my experience (unless it was just a bug on release), those elements didn't actually matter. They had a graphical effect to them, and En did burn DOT and Rei gave Freeze, but the attacks themselves didn't get elemental attributes. If I remember correctly the extractions said they should, but I believe that they were linked to the buff, and not the actual resulting Shisen Gyouha change.
As for Retsu, it has no element. It just does ridiculous damage boost on the 3rd hit compared to the other two, at least 50% (exact number eludes me atm).
Abysseon Wrote:...So her regular attack beats out the hurricane skill?
Having second thoughts about kanna then since 'hurricane' was one of the most wanted attacking skills I had for a mage class. :/
I hope GMS adjusts Haja Rengekifu before release or future hypers can make it much stronger than Shisen Gyouha.
I'm not even sure why you want it. Hurricane skills are the most boring abilities. Besides, the main attack is practically a hurricane skill on it's own anyway.
Plus, you have Luminous for that.
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Polantaris Wrote:So actually, in my experience (unless it was just a bug on release), those elements didn't actually matter. They had a graphical effect to them, and En did burn DOT and Rei gave Freeze, but the attacks themselves didn't get elemental attributes. If I remember correctly the extractions said they should, but I believe that they were linked to the buff, and not the actual resulting Shisen Gyouha change.
As for Retsu, it has no element. It just does ridiculous damage boost on the 3rd hit compared to the other two, at least 50% (exact number eludes me atm). Thanks for clarifying that, I kinda thought it would work that way. It's still weird that the buffs themselves have elements but the attack doesn't o.o
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Razmos Wrote:Thanks for clarifying that, I kinda thought it would work that way. It's still weird that the buffs themselves have elements but the attack doesn't o.o
Yeah, I tried using both En and Rei on multiple elementally weak and strong monsters and my damage never changed. It's either a bug, or an oversight with the skills. Not sure. Rei and En pretty much become useless once you get Retsu thanks to the Knockback and damage boost Retsu gives though so I never experimented with it again once I got 120.
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Arrol Wrote:Our male Kanna
![[Image: 1yu3k.jpg]](http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2047/1yu3k.jpg)
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That looks awful.
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Arrol Wrote:-snip-.
You have to be kidding.
The only decent is the 3rd one.
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Arrol Wrote:Our male Kanna (I think?)
![[Image: 1yu3k.jpg]](http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2047/1yu3k.jpg)
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I should hope not unless it's the third one. The other three just look like poor edits of the original Kanna while the third has some flair although I would also say it still doesn't look fitting enough.
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The third one, although the best one, looks like there is some weird hair-flattening going on. For once, I might be able to accept a Raccoon Mask as an article of clothing for my login screen. That or I'll just keep him in a Mesoranger uniform.
That frock is also highly questionable. I feel like I'm being April Fooled but, -checks calendar- it's February.
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Chew Wrote:Thank goodness they give 1 VIP hair coupon for free.
For some reason I don't think Tot's quests will work on Kanna right away.
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MetaSeraphim Wrote:For some reason I don't think Tot's quests will work on Kanna right away. It's still not working for my Phantom. I don't think it will work for Kanna or Hayato.
Then again, Tot is a GMS exclusive, and since they are coding Kanna and Hayato into the game at around the same time, it's likely that they would have made it possible for them to get the quests too.
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Arrol Wrote:Our male Kanna (I think?)
![[Image: 1yu3k.jpg]](http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2047/1yu3k.jpg)
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Noob photoshop adjustment on kanna pics:
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Abysseon Wrote:Noob photoshop adjustment on kanna pics:
i can't tell the difference.
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Arrol Wrote:i can't tell the difference. The outfit.
The original was showing a surprising amount of leg because it looked exactly the same as the female outfit. He covered the legs.
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And the eyes on the top two.
Man, this feels like a spot the difference game.
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Combo system.
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