Permanent Bans - 01/31/2013 - 02/06/2013
#21
Question Wrote:Maybe they are not legit... ever wonder ... if my friend claim he is legit and doesnt hack ... that is true but only to my point of view ... cuz i never seem him hacking or doing anything illegit
however that doesnt make that person pure legit ....

HE MAY SAY HE LEGIT AND YOU HAVNT SEEM HE DONE ANYTHING ILLEGIT = LEGIT
THAT IS NOT REALLY TRUE... He can hack behide your back and u never know.... like all the bossing and pq and thing he done with u is legit... but he can hack solo and do thing hidden that no one know .....

EVERYONE HAS A SECRET ... AND MAYBE IT THEIR SECRET GOT CAUGHT BY A GM
Anything is possible, I'd understand permanent banning all these kaisers with random asdjnasd ign's. But there should be more thorough investigation before banning.

Is the player wearing free level 120 gear, alone, and doing non delay skills?

Is the player actually taking damage, equipped with decent gear, using regular looking skills, and the boss is behaving normally?

That's all it takes to find out. I've been permanent banned before on a funded Night Lord and I actually failed the run (stayed there 53 minutes till I gave up trying to solo v2's about 5 months ago).

These GM's are just reckless and I'd even say some of them are probably newly hired and don't even know how the game operates. They don't even know what they're looking at they just assume these bosses can't possible be solo'd or duo'd so they should be banned.
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#22
Question Wrote:yes i met alot of ppl... i believe most the ppl i known that are pure legit and would never hack are pure legit... however that all change when i met one guy he decide to tell me his story... and this guy is one of my best friend .... ofc i know he is the most legit person i ever know... cuz i trade him and he doenst scamm and everyone trade with him and friend with him and even have skype and thing... however ... he told me his dark side life and said he not legit to me only cuz im his best friend cuz we done everything together... he told me he he legit on his main ... but he hack on his other acc to get all the goodies... and sometime he hack on his main on small bosses ... that gm doenst look or seem like... such as hillia which is kindly hard to solo and chaos pink bean cuz he know that gm rarely go to cpb and they mostly focus on empress and other super bosses... however i cant tell you who he is cuz he my best friend and he trust me. that all i can share with u... anyway believe what u want guy... everyone has their own dark side... and even i have thing that i cant tell or say just so u know....

That's a single person.
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#23
Question Wrote:yes i met alot of ppl... i believe most the ppl i known that are pure legit and would never hack are pure legit... however that all change when i met one guy he decide to tell me his story... and this guy is one of my best friend .... ofc i know he is the most legit person i ever know... cuz i trade him and he doenst scamm and everyone trade with him and friend with him and even have skype and thing... however ... he told me his dark side life and said he not legit to me only cuz im his best friend cuz we done everything together... he told me he he legit on his main ... but he hack on his other acc to get all the goodies... and sometime he hack on his main on small bosses ... that gm doenst look or seem like... such as hillia which is kindly hard to solo and chaos pink bean cuz he know that gm rarely go to cpb and they mostly focus on empress and other super bosses... however i cant tell you who he is cuz he my best friend and he trust me. that all i can share with u... anyway believe what u want guy... everyone has their own dark side... and even i have thing that i cant tell or say just so u know....

I don't think ONE person you met reflects the whole entire community. I think this argument is called antecatal?

Nexon's Ban List Wrote:ArmorAbsKrab
There's my character on that list. ;_; (I don't hack btw, I was one of the innocent people banned).
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#24
TrueBlitz Wrote:I don't think ONE person you met reflects the whole entire community. I think this argument is called antecatal?


There's my character on that list. ;_; (I don't hack btw, I was one of the innocent people banned).

ResistGreen Wrote:That's a single person.

i guess ur right... however in my mind and my point of view that everyone has their own way of legit and illegit somehow and someway
but that is my opinion

i could believe nexon ban inncoent player... however what are the odd of mass innconet player got PERM banned? o.0
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#25
uh.

peeked at nexon forums and saw someone was perm-banned even though they haven't patched the latest version.

i'm legit scared, what the hell is happening here?
HALP
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#26
Question Wrote:however what are the odd of mass innconet player got PERM banned? o.0

An example countering this would be the famous "Hak crane" glitch where if you drop mesos while riding Hak (the crane), you get a one year ban.
Another one would be when you attempt to do the Valley of the Heroes jump quest, you could get banned.
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#27
Nion Wrote:An example countering this would be the famous "Hak crane" glitch where if you drop mesos while riding Hak (the crane), you get a one year ban.
Another one would be when you attempt to do the Valley of the Heroes jump quest, you could get banned.

but those ban are not perm? right?
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#28
Question Wrote:but those ban are not perm? right?

Nope but I think the Mu Lung one was actually like 25 years or something ridiculous.
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#29
There's also the incident where people got banned for opening or playing an omok game, something ridiculous and uncalled for.

I haven't been banned, but I haven't been playing much with this sort of thing going on either. I know of some friends that has gotten banned when they haven't done much but AFK, omok, and chat in towns/FM/Ardent. They aren't interested in grinding or bossing. A hene-ho if you will... No offense.

Something seems to be definitely messed up on Nexon's side, whether GMs being reckless and ban trigger happy, or their auto-ban system needs adjusting from being set too sensitive. Nexon needs to really double check their system as well as look into the reports. For the people that got falsely banned and deserve it, I hope you get your accounts back and some sort of apology or compensation.
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#30
Question Wrote:but those ban are not perm? right?

http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=62439&page=3
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#31
O Hey I'm on the list! and wow BIG list.

Question Wrote:WubYou4everr whoa.... she on the list... lmao wtp

Grats on picking/seeing/finding/ me on the list out of 6.6k peeps

I wonder who is your main and which server are you from?
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#32
WubYou4ever Wrote:O Hey I'm on the list! and wow BIG list.



Grats on picking/seeing/finding/ me on the list out of 6.6k peeps

I wonder who is your main and which server are you from?

You were banned while on an Empress right? Would you happen to remember approximately when during the run you were banned? I'm trying to figure out if this is actually a glitch or not. I disconnected after both attempts as soon as Empress summoned the advanced knights from HoH. I was banned on my second attempt when I went on my Phantom, and a Kaiser from Khaini pm'd me that he was banned as soon as she summoned too.
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#33
Denial Wrote:You were banned while on an Empress right? Would you happen to remember approximately when during the run you were banned? I'm trying to figure out if this is actually a glitch or not. I disconnected after both attempts as soon as Empress summoned the advanced knights from HoH. I was banned on my second attempt when I went on my Phantom, and a Kaiser from Khaini pm'd me that he was banned as soon as she summoned too.

Around 10min in, only killed 2-4 v1
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#34
WubYou4ever Wrote:Around 10min in, only killed 2-4 v1

Hmm, I killed about that many on both of my runs before I disconnected. I disconnected after 5-10 minutes on my Kaiser and 10-15 minutes on my Phantom. I guess it's inconclusive so far.
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#35
WubYou4ever Wrote:O Hey I'm on the list! and wow BIG list.



Grats on picking/seeing/finding/ me on the list out of 6.6k peeps

I wonder who is your main and which server are you from?

I saw one your post saying u got banned.. and you also show a logo on ur char level 200 and then i go to that banlist and press Ctrl + F and wrote down your ign... and suprising that your ign was on the perm list .... o.0 that is a hard ban... i saw u post alot and i expect u to be well legit player but the ban list just bl0w my mind away
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#36
sad im on that list for sitting in hen waiting for my coins.

revolt anyone?
no one logs in buys nx or doeset anything until they negotiate with us. see how they like no one on their server for a day or two

i got dced a few times earlier the day while playing as well but got banned at like 3 while in hen
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#37
Proxied Wrote:"SkelormSMFD"

loool


Excuse me being ignorant, but does this mean something?
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#38
MetaSeraphim Wrote:Excuse me being ignorant, but does this mean something?

Skelorm is a GM. Search his name on SP, you'll see why people hate him so much.
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#39
what do we do now that is the question
i feel betrayed ive been playing since beta gms
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#40
SaptaZapta Wrote:Skelorm is a GM.

Ah, thank you. Outside of Girasol I don't know any GM IGNs.
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