Catholic Hospital Says Fetus Isn't Human Life

Oh double standards.

[video=youtube;uJjclpWSaXM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=uJjclpWSaXM[/video]

Something religious contradicting itself?

WHAT MADNESS.

As strong of an issue as Abortion is, I think this is pretty news worthy of how extreme they essentially did a 180 for their own financial benefit.

Someone can tell me whats going on? (I hate videos)

Someone can tell me whats going on? (I hate videos)

Catholic church was hospitalizing a pregnant female with twins, she started having massive heart failure, she asked for a c-section to save the twins, they refused. Father suing because they refused as manslaughter, they are claiming that a fetus is not a "person".

Catholic church is some kinda joke these days.
Should Narco criminals be forgiven?
I mean seriously, I know Jesus tried to taught us to forgive and appreciate any kind of living being. But some people are just monstrosities.

Religious people always pick and choose what laws and rules are relevant to them in their religion.

Deciding "Oh no wait, fetuses aren't alive or human" to get out of a legal case is sadly indicative of that in my opinion.

Catholic church was hospitalizing a pregnant female with twins, she started having massive heart failure, she asked for a c-section to save the twins, they refused. Father suing because they refused as manslaughter, they are claiming that a fetus is not a "person".

I love how you can sometimes use their own words and thoughts against them.

Catholicism

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Catholicism

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Your comment is a bit offensive to those who are Catholics. Why would you end the thread based on the fact that it's about Catholicism?

Religious people always pick and choose what laws and rules are relevant to them in their religion.

Deciding "Oh no wait, fetuses aren't alive or human" to get out of a legal case is sadly indicative of that in my opinion.

Be careful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasty_generalization

Although this is quite hilarious. I've really given up on both sides of the abortion debate.

Your comment is a bit offensive to those who are Catholics. Why would you end the thread based on the fact that it's about Catholicism?

I don't care to get into a debate that will get us nowhere.

Be careful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasty_generalization

Although this is quite hilarious. I've really given up on both sides of the abortion debate.

Me too, especially when some people insist that pro-choice= Pro-abortion. What?

Me too, especially when some people insist that pro-choice= Pro-abortion. What?

There should be a "pro-don't care" side in this debate.

There should be a "pro-don't care" side in this debate.

There should be an official pro-whatever side in every debate from now on. I swear, reading the absurd arguments on both sides just makes me want to ignore them even when I was leaning towards one side previously.

There should be an official pro-whatever side in every debate from now on. I swear, reading the absurd arguments on both sides just makes me want to ignore them even when I was leaning towards one side previously.

Big rule of rhetoric: Always frame your position as "pro" something. being "anti" something sounds too negative.


There used to be abortion displays on my campus and everyone (both sides) were really rude to each other.

Big rule of rhetoric: Always frame your position as "pro" something. being "anti" something sounds too negative.

There used to be abortion displays on my campus and everyone (both sides) were really rude to each other.

Even if it's pro-apathy? I can only imagine that, but then again some people mistake debates for an ego battle to show who's right and who's an asshat and wrong, when in truth that behaviour also makes you an asshat.

wait, i thought catholics were agaisnt abortion because 'it is life' ???

Not watching video because I'm at my Department now... but... wait the hospital is a Catholic church (or the other way round)? Or the church is in charge of hospitalizing the mother?

I seriously don't understand how this would be possible if it weren't either of these two. A professional duty must come before a religious duty (if the doctors were Catholic, that is... I can understand if a Catholic doctor refused to perform abortion), else the doctor / hospital is medically unprofessional. Even to err on the religious side of caution would imply saving the twins (do not take lives) =.= Furthermore the one to provide the permission in a professional setting is the direct kin (i.e. the father), not the church! What's going on??

Probably the only viable reason to not perform a C-section is that there was too little time and the mother is too weak to handle a C-section, such that a C-section would carry a significant risk of all three [lives/person] dying, whereas not havnig a C-section would at least save the mother's life.

Hadriel

wait, i thought catholics were agaisnt abortion because 'it is life' ???

That would be the point of this thread.